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[VID] ACE 100% Plastic Coated Casino Cards - Cartamundi USA
« on: August 15, 2013, 06:29:10 PM »
 

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I have seen them for sale at Barnes & Noble
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Re: [VID] ACE 100% Plastic Coated Casino Cards - Cartamundi USA
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2013, 09:11:37 PM »
 

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from www.cartamundiusa.com

I have seen them for sale at Barnes & Noble

You mentioned that casinos don't use white-bordered or plastic decks.  Patently untrue.

Among the most popular casino deck designs in use today is the Bee Stinger Back, a white-bordered version of the Diamond back.  Many casinos also employ white-bordered designs of their own - the famous brown Wynn deck is white-bordered and was a floor-used deck at one time.

Poker tables at most casinos today use plastic decks - ironically enough, in bridge size.  I personally own a two-deck set of Bicycle-branded Kem cards from the 2011 World Series of Poker - they haven't used paper decks for years.  Because they get handled by the players (not permitted in most other games), casinos use plastic for the durability and the difficulty of crimping, nicking or creasing the cards while in play.  Bridge-sized cards are used to allow easier concealment of hole cards during a peek in games like Texas Hold 'Em.

Ace decks from Cartamundi come in 100% plastic and paper versions, with large-index and standard-index faces, in red and blue - and both standard and limited editions, as well.  The limited edition plastic decks have some black detailing on the backs, but also have a godsawful shiny coating on them that ruins the handling.  You reviewed the large-index standard edition plastic deck in red.  You should check out more varieties.
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Re: [VID] ACE 100% Plastic Coated Casino Cards - Cartamundi USA
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2013, 12:26:33 AM »
 

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from www.cartamundiusa.com

I have seen them for sale at Barnes & Noble

You mentioned that casinos don't use white-bordered or plastic decks.  Patently untrue.

Among the most popular casino deck designs in use today is the Bee Stinger Back, a white-bordered version of the Diamond back.  Many casinos also employ white-bordered designs of their own - the famous brown Wynn deck is white-bordered and was a floor-used deck at one time.

Poker tables at most casinos today use plastic decks - ironically enough, in bridge size.  I personally own a two-deck set of Bicycle-branded Kem cards from the 2011 World Series of Poker - they haven't used paper decks for years.  Because they get handled by the players (not permitted in most other games), casinos use plastic for the durability and the difficulty of crimping, nicking or creasing the cards while in play.  Bridge-sized cards are used to allow easier concealment of hole cards during a peek in games like Texas Hold 'Em.

Ace decks from Cartamundi come in 100% plastic and paper versions, with large-index and standard-index faces, in red and blue - and both standard and limited editions, as well.  The limited edition plastic decks have some black detailing on the backs, but also have a godsawful shiny coating on them that ruins the handling.  You reviewed the large-index standard edition plastic deck in red.  You should check out more varieties.

Foxwoods Casino, one of if not the largest casino on the east coast uses 100% Plastic Kem Playing Cards in their poker room.
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Re: [VID] ACE 100% Plastic Coated Casino Cards - Cartamundi USA
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2013, 11:47:46 AM »
 

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That's what I love about these forums - always  new information that is so helpful. Of course you realize that we are all limited to our own experiences and since each of us has different experiences, we all see things differently - in addition we all communicate differently and often times that leads to confusion, disagreement and yes - even name calling - it's the world we live in. Sad but true.

I am sorry that my reviews are not 100% to your liking, heck, they might not even be 10% to your liking, but I guess you can't please everyone. And I'm ok with that.

Just to show you where I am coming from, I broke out my Casino cards

I put them in 2 piles - cards with borders and cards without

Notice of the 40 casinos I have been to - 37 have no borders

3 do have borders - the aforementioned Wynn casino , The Cosmopolitan and the "M"

While I agree that some casinos use white borders - they are the exception.

I guess I should do more research before posting a review, but sadly I just don't have time to read every post on every playing card forum.

Thank you for your input!
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Re: [VID] ACE 100% Plastic Coated Casino Cards - Cartamundi USA
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2013, 12:33:39 PM »
 

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The problems with that comparison are both the limited sample size and the fact that those decks are a mix of current-or-recent-use and old-stock decks.  At one time, as recently as about a decade ago, it was exceptionally common to see borderless designs, usually Bee Diamond Backs or similar variants.  Gaming houses got wise to how the borderless decks are used by advantage players and cheats on the inside.  I'm sure some houses out there still use them, but the majority do not.

Paper decks are largely used and blackjack and other similar games where the player plays against the house, usually dealt from a multi-deck shoe or an auto-shuffler which shuffles as you go, and generally doesn't even handle the cards.  Such devices can be rigged by insiders for things like second deals and the dealers themselves can perform culls from the muck, card swaps, etc. if they possess just the right sleight of hand skills.  Borderless decks make such moves more difficult to spot, so casinos switched to bordered.

Plastic decks are even more likely to be bordered, as they are used in games like poker, where the player actually does handle the cards.  You never know when the next guy at the table will be a serious mechanic.  Worse, combine that with a crooked dealer, and the house can be in serious trouble.
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Re: [VID] ACE 100% Plastic Coated Casino Cards - Cartamundi USA
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2013, 04:15:59 PM »
 

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Legacy was never gunning for you. Unless you were on Discourse with another name? Does Legacy challenge conventional thinking from time to time? Yes, as a customer he enlightens people or provides a different perspective. You were being super sensitive and your comments on UC (June) were not appropriate.
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Re: [VID] ACE 100% Plastic Coated Casino Cards - Cartamundi USA
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2013, 04:20:11 AM »
 

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LEGACY & MAGIC_ORTHODOXY!

Guys, enough.  I don't know what funny business you two got into over at UC.  To be frank, I don't care, because from the sounds of it, it was petty and childish.  (Hate the act, not the actors.  You're both very welcome and accepted members of this community.)

Seriously, how old are the both of you?  I know you're both capable of better than this.  Drop the playground nonsense and play nice with each other.  There's no need for this.  If you find you're incapable of being nice, then follow the old adage: "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."

If you gentlemen insist in pursuing this line of discussion, take it to the LOLAQ.  If you want me to get involved, I want to hear both sides of the story, from the beginning - at the LOLAQ.

We have a civil community here, not perfectly so but good enough for gub'mint work.  Please remember that when you're posting.
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