Deck Of The Year: 2012!

[john]

Alright everyone heres how it works. There is a list of categories and you vote on what deck you think goes with that category. The deck has to of been released from December 1st 2011 to December 1st 2012, if your deck wasn't released between those 2 dates moonexe will yell at you and call you an idiot .

*If you have a deck on the market you CANNOT vote for it. EX Paul Carpenter cannot vote for aurum or tendril for the ANY category*

Best Back:
Best Fronts:
Best Customization:
Best Jokers:
Best Box:
Best Ace of Spades:
Most Worth The Hype:
Best price value:

NEGATIVE POINTS
Worst Backs:
Worst Fronts:
Worst Customization:
Worst Jokers:
Worst Box:
Worst Ace of Spades:
Most Over Hyped:
Worst price value:

EXTRAS
Best deck trailer:
Best brick box:
Best marked/tricked deck:
Best side product release alongside a deck:

[sr15]

would you happen to have a list of decks released this year?

[john]

would you happen to have a list of decks released this year?

No i dont, thats one of those things that there is just way to many to make a complete list of them. You can always check the old NDR posts and find a bunch of decks released in 2012.

[Aaron]

Best Back: Seasons
Best Fronts: Ornates
Best Customization: Tendril
Best Jokers: Galvanic
Best Box: Ace Fultons Casino
Best Ace of Spades: Vortex
Most Worth The Hype: Seasons
Best price value: Ornates

NEGATIVE POINTS
Worst Backs: S&M V7
Worst Fronts:  Rebels
Worst Customization: S&M V7
Worst Jokers: Sultan Republic
Worst Box: Verve Yellow
Worst Ace of Spades: Rebels
Most Over Hyped: S&M V7
Worst price value: Black Artifice/ S&M V7

EXTRAS
Best deck trailer: Purple Artifice
Best brick box: Ornates
Best marked/tricked deck: TBC crown trick decks
Best side product released alongside a deck: THC Altrusium shirt


Dont we ussually do this in january though to look back on the whole year?

[Don Boyer]

Best Back: Bee Coterie1902
Best Fronts: BeDeceived Mystery Deck
Best Customization:  HOPC Mechanic Deck
Best Jokers: Bicycle Americana
Best Box: Verve Elan Rouge
Best Ace of Spades: NOC decks
Most Worth The Hype: Seasons Platinum Edition
Best price value: NOC decks

NEGATIVE POINTS
Worst Backs: S&M v7
Worst Fronts: Artifice Purple Edition
Worst Customization: S&M v7
Worst Jokers: Reagan M's Steampunk deck
Worst Box: Reagan M's Steampunk deck
Worst Ace of Spades: Reagan M's Steampunk deck
Most Over Hyped: S&M v7
Worst price value: S&M v7

EXTRAS
Best deck trailer: tie - Bohemia KS campaign and Aurum teaser
Best brick box: David Blaine's, with the Split Spade logo on the short ends
Best marked/tricked deck: White Lions Series B (it passes a riffle test!)
Best side product released alongside a deck: free HOPC video starring Alex Pandrea teaching five simple but key magic/flourish moves.

Dont we ussually do this in january though to look back on the whole year?

Why, do you know of any big deck releases coming between now and year's end?  All I can think of is the Virts deck and the last Blades deck plus another non-Blades deck, both from De'vo.  All the other companies appear to have shot their wad already.

Best side product released alongside a deck: THC Altrusium shirt

Let me guess - you wrote this around 4:20?  'Cause it looks like it was 4:20 SOMEWHERE at the time... 

[sr15]

purple artifice for worst fronts? I thought the faces looked awesome

i will make me list soon, first i gotta go through the decks i got this year

edit: also I think it would be a good idea to add a best overall and worst overall category. your call though

[john]

Dont we ussually do this in january though to look back on the whole year?

If by usually you mean we did it in January for the first time last year, yes we did. I changed to to December 1st because as Don said, we won't BEE seeing many releases in December.

Best side product released alongside a deck: THC Altrusium shirt

Let me guess - you wrote this around 4:20?  'Cause it looks like it was 4:20 SOMEWHERE at the time... 

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd 420

i will make me list soon, first i gotta go through the decks i got this year

edit: also I think it would be a good idea to add a best overall and worst overall category. your call though

Just remember though its deck RELEASED in 2012. So if you bought a red artifice in 2012 it wouldn't count

[Don Boyer]

purple artifice for worst fronts? I thought the faces looked awesome

i will make me list soon, first i gotta go through the decks i got this year

edit: also I think it would be a good idea to add a best overall and worst overall category. your call though

Oh, the Artifice face, the basic version, is a great face.  But the Purple version has "black pips" that look more purple and "red"/purple pips that look more black.  It's a pain in the ass for solitaire games and I can't imagine it being very useful to poker players or magicians - who needs pips with confusingly blended colors?  I can see the decision making process in my head...  "OK, so we're making the black pips purple and black, and we're making the red pips...black and purple?  GREAT!"  It's a face that cardists and collectors who don't play with or open their cards would love, but not me.

As far as the overall category - I think John picks that based on the number of votes each deck gets in their respective categories.  I forget what the Academy rules are for vote-counting and picking the Best Pict...I mean, Deck... 

[sr15]

well I open quite a bit of my cards, and I thought they looked really cool. It can be confusing if you're trying to quickly distinguish between cards, but just based on looks alone it was interesting and something that I don't think I've seen done quite like that before. I gave it points for originality and because it looks nice, and I'm all for new ideas in designing cards. Even though I agree with what you said, I don't think it's enough to give worst faces of the year or anywhere close to that!

[Don Boyer]

well I open quite a bit of my cards, and I thought they looked really cool. It can be confusing if you're trying to quickly distinguish between cards, but just based on looks alone it was interesting and something that I don't think I've seen done quite like that before. I gave it points for originality and because it looks nice, and I'm all for new ideas in designing cards. Even though I agree with what you said, I don't think it's enough to give worst faces of the year or anywhere close to that!

That's your opinion.  I respectfully disagree.  For me, besides looking good, a deck has to be practical and easily used/recognized by an audience.  I wouldn't pull out the Purple Artifice deck because the pip coloring is just too confusing.  I need cards to be quickly distinguished by spectators - they shouldn't have to think too hard to determine what suit a card is.  Most magic works because people don't think too hard!

Simply put, if I have trouble using it in a game of solitaire, I won't use it in magic.

And none of that even touches on the border issue.  But that's an argument that's been hashed out over and over, flogged to death and the corpse flogged into itty-bitty pieces...

[twiscold]

just curious does the v6 trailer by the virts count as v7 trailer? i know v7 is a huge let down(probably gonna sweep most of the worst categorical), but i freaking love the trailer for v6.   

[john]

just curious does the v6 trailer by the virts count as v7 trailer? i know v7 is a huge let down(probably gonna sweep most of the worst categorical), but i freaking love the trailer for v6.   

Nope, reprints don't count for DOTY. Neither do trailers released in 2012 for decks released in 2011 and before.

[Gunshy1]

Best Back: Seasons
Best Fronts: Mystery
Best Customization: aurum
Best Jokers: aurum
Best Box: Aurum
Best Ace of Spades: Mystery
Most Worth The Hype:tendril
Best price value: Split spades sliver

NEGATIVE POINTS
Worst Backs: fulton china towns
Worst Fronts: rebels
Worst Customization: rebels
Worst Jokers: Black and white actuators (love the deck but the joker sucks)
Worst Box: vortex
Worst Ace of Spades: ace fultons
Most Over Hyped: v7
Worst price value: v7

EXTRAS
Best deck trailer: Bee Coterie1902
Best brick box: ornate
Best marked/tricked deck: Players (would say white lions series B but its kind of a reprint)
Best side product release alongside a deck: none

[john]

NEGATIVE POINTS
Worst Backs: Pick any of the kickstarter shit
Worst Fronts: Any of the t11 no custom anything faces.
Worst Customization: All t11 decks

EXTRAS
Best side product release alongside a deck: none

Please pick an actual item please . I hate to sound annoying but it messes up the tallys if you dont.

[Don Boyer]

Best marked/tricked deck: Players (would say white lions series B but its kind of a reprint)

The Series B decks are actually different from the Series A.  They reverted back to the Split Spades Lions joker and Aos, plus the marking system was upgraded to allow for determining suit.  You could count them as a 2012 release rather than a reprint.

just curious does the v6 trailer by the virts count as v7 trailer? i know v7 is a huge let down(probably gonna sweep most of the worst categorical), but i freaking love the trailer for v6.   

Nope, reprints don't count for DOTY. Neither do trailers released in 2012 for decks released in 2011 and before.

Technically, those decks aren't reprints - they're all Version 7.  They are sufficiently different from the originals that they wouldn't qualify as reprints.  The originals had custom, simplified courts and Perfect Pips, while Version 7 decks all use USPC standard faces and pips.  The only things that are the same would be the backs - but if the fronts don't match, it's not a reprint.  At least in my mind, anyway.

[john]

Technically, those decks aren't reprints - they're all Version 7.  They are sufficiently different from the originals that they wouldn't qualify as reprints.  The originals had custom, simplified courts and Perfect Pips, while Version 7 decks all use USPC standard faces and pips.  The only things that are the same would be the backs - but if the fronts don't match, it's not a reprint.  At least in my mind, anyway.

There is alot of confusion behind that set, one day the twins are saying each deck is individual and is a reprint and the next day they are saying v7 is the box. I'm pretty sure there opinion changes when the wind blows, not sure though ill have to double check .

[sway]

I hope you guys don't mind I'm voting just for the 'Best' categories:

Best Back: Mana
Best Fronts: Bohemia
Best Customization: Aurum
Best Jokers: Ghoul Note
Best Box: Red JAQK
Best Ace of Spades: Artisans
Most Worth The Hype: Seasons
Best price value: Split Spades Sliver Edition (upon release)

P.S.: I'm not sure if Mana is a 2011 or 2012 deck. Since it was announced on late 2011 and released in 2012. Well?

[Paul Carpenter]

Tried to stick with decks that I own. Darn you for not letting me vote for my own decks!  Tee hee.

Best Back: Seasons Seronda
Best Fronts: Curator
Best Customization: Seasons Seronda
Best Jokers: Fathom
Best Box: Artisans
Best Ace of Spades: Seasons Seronda
Most Worth The Hype: Sultan Republic
Best price value: JAQK Red

NEGATIVE POINTS
Worst Backs: Ace Fulton
Worst Fronts: T11 Rebels
Worst Customization: Split Spades Lions
Worst Jokers: The Grid
Worst Box: Carpat"B"ia
Worst Ace of Spades: NOC
Most Over Hyped: Silver Monarchs
Worst price value: Bicycle Flowers KS

EXTRAS
Best deck trailer: Sultan Republic
Best brick box: Ornates
Best marked/tricked deck: Madison Players
Best side product release alongside a deck: Ornate Poker Chips

[MrMollusk]

Best Back: Black Artifice (Black Club)
Best Fronts: Uusi Blue Blood
Best Customization: Uusi Bohemia
Best Jokers: Ghoul Note
Best Box: Rebel Deck
Best Ace of Spades: Oriental Deck
Most Worth The Hype: Aurum
Best price value:  Split Silver Spades

NEGATIVE POINTS
Worst Backs: Spectrum Deck
Worst Fronts: Genesis Deck
Worst Customization: NOC Deck (C'mon guys, they did nothing.)
Worst Jokers: Reagan M Steampunk
Worst Box: Black Tie Deck
Worst Ace of Spades: Black Tie Deck
Most Over Hyped: Smoke & Mirrors V7
Worst price value: Smoke & Mirrors V7

EXTRAS
Best deck trailer: Daniel Madison Players
Best brick box: Ornate
Best marked/tricked deck: Daniel Madison Players
Best side product release alongside a deck: Pedale Design Shirt

[Shade]

Need Ruling on Kickstarter Projects, are you going by Project Close date or Deck Shipping date?

Also you should add a Best/Worst New Artist Deck catagory.

[john]

Need Ruling on Kickstarter Projects, are you going by Project Close date or Deck Shipping date?

Deck shit date.

Also you should add a Best/Worst New Artist Deck catagory.

Should have said it in the category idea thread, its to late now

[MrMollusk]

Deck shit date.

Wait, what?
Shipping date or funding date?

[Don Boyer]

Deck shit date.

Wait, what?
Shipping date or funding date?

The date the deck is "shat out", a.k.a. the release date.  You could call it the date that retailers are carrying it online, since they usually get drop shipments before the individual pledges get into people's hands.

[john]

Deck shit date.

Wait, what?
Shipping date or funding date?

The date the deck is "shat out", a.k.a. the release date.  You could call it the date that retailers are carrying it online, since they usually get drop shipments before the individual pledges get into people's hands.

I'm never replying to a thread first thing in the morning ever again...

[Don Boyer]

I'm never replying to a thread first thing in the morning ever again...

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