The future value of Chinatown

[Atheosile]

Hey guys, I was thinking, what do you all think the value for Chinatown Playing cards and uncut sheet due to their print run?

[munro159]

Its a little to early to tell at this point. Neither have sold out yet.  There is also no way to tell how many they have in stock on the website.  I tried and it only gives you a limit of 288 decks you can buy.  Which doesn't mean there are only 288 decks left.  It only means that is the limit they will let one customer buy.

[xela]

Sorry but the Chinatown decks will not be shooting up in value at all. The Black Crowns sold out in negative time (for anyone that remembers, they sold out while the site was offline). Their value is now 3x higher, maxing out at about $20-30 per deck over the next year. How expensive do you think decks that can't sell out over the course of a week will be in a year?

D&D don't release bad products, unlike another company whose name rhymes with Jeery Meleven. They just release them too often right now. Treat their releases for what they are, quality cards that you should buy for use or for collection. Not for private resale.

Just my two cents.

[dee1orean]

To be honest I'm getting fed up of all the posts focusing on the "value" of a particular deck. $8.88, that's the value of a Chinatown Deck. If\when they sell out you can find some mug to pay more for them great!
Don't get me wrong, I have some Rarer supposedly valuable decks in my collection, but when I started collecting it was more about the excitement I felt when finding a new deck that appealed to me, I'd never seen Blackfaced cards before or full bleed coloured faces, I remember being blown away by the Jokers in the V2 Black Ghost and Arcane, and so many custom Aos... Wow!
I remember getting a package a while back from theory 11 that contained the latest "Must Have" deck, The Propaganda deck, I remember the excitement of opening the deck and taking out the cards.... Then the disappointment when I realised that I hated the deck, the imagery TO ME was horrible, and it dawned on me that I bought a deck I didn't like purely because it was the latest "must have" and would have been sold out soon.
The deck is still in my collection, a constant reminder of my foolishness.
If every deck released has a "limited" run of 5000 decks how long before a 5000 deck run is the Standard?
Anyway, this little rant is not supposed to be a personal attack on you Atheosile, but I obviously needed to vent!!

Rare Decks? I just cut up a green crown v1 to make a six card repeat gimmick LOL!

So as I've often said in the past, "Collect what you love, love what you collect!" and most importantly have fun, enjoy, when you start factor in value it becomes more of a mission.

[phantom1412]

I think the value might be higher but that would take years.
It's 5000 decks print run. So, in the future when demand is higher, the value mist be increased. However, i think you should buy only the amount you need. Buying for reselling is not a good idea unless you dont care to keep the decks for 2-5 years.

[dmbaggs]

Yeah I agree with Deelorean but at the same time I do understand the talk in certain situations. I would love to know the answer to this question because I'm trying to not buy every deck that comes out. It's an expensive hobby and I need to be smart with my purchases. I would like to get the deck, but I think there are others I would like more at the moment. If this deck was to rise dramatically in price (which it won't) I would be more inclined to get it now to save in the long run.


I understand getting annoyed though. I' not fond of seeing people buy bricks and bricks of cards and then talk about how much they are going up in price and making a huge deal about all that jazz. In the end though that's just how it works, so I try my best to let it be.


In the end I only collect for my love of cards not because of some price tag that people put on the decks. 

[munro159]

I think this is a legitimate question...if he were to clarify the context of his question.  If he was asking because he wanted to pick one or two of these up from bmpoker or another reseller, I can understand his point because I for one am fed up with DandD's overpriced shipping.  If Bmpoker were to list these at 9 or 10 dollars your still better off buying from him because DandD charge you around 5-6 dollars to ship 1 deck.  DandD's shipping is really only realistic if you order a brick or more.  Anything else and your getting overcharged!

[dmbaggs]

I think this is a legitimate question...if he were to clarify the context of his question.  If he was asking because he wanted to pick one or two of these up from bmpoker or another reseller, I can understand his point because I for one am fed up with DandD's overpriced shipping.  If Bmpoker were to list these at 9 or 10 dollars your still better off buying from him because DandD charge you around 5-6 dollars to ship 1 deck.  DandD's shipping is really only realistic if you order a brick or more.  Anything else and your getting overcharged!

Yeah I understand his question. I wasn't trying to minimize it or say it was bad I was talking about in general. I am actually in the same boat as him (which I mention in my post)

[Don Boyer]

There's a certain amount of overheating in the market because of people buying speculatively, hoping that a deck will go up in value by some order of magnitude.  In the end, any deck is worth exactly what someone is willing to pay for it, no more, no less.  This makes valuable a very relative thing - which in reality, it is.  I could own a bottle cap collection with all sorts of rare specimens in it, and in the minds of non-collectors, it's worth nothing more than its recycling value as scrap metal.  But to a fellow bottle cap collector, it could be priceless.


The best you could do to determine future value is determine what the vox populi is regarding it.  Rarity alone doesn't make a deck valuable.  There are countless "only 5000 made" decks on the market, and they trade at wildly different values in the after-market.  The ones that people rave about because of beauty, handling, longevity, etc. are the ones that generally go up in value a lot, and the ones that people deride for the same reasons are the ones that stagnate in value, not rising much at all - or even doing DOWN in value.


These values can change over time, especially if the deck becomes more rare or difficult to find.  Remember, a deck can be made in a run of 5000, but how many of those decks are kept in hermetically-sealed museum glass, and how many are actually seeing use and eventually wearing out?  But the fact remains that only time will determine that factor.


Here's a caveat for you: remember when the "Death of Superman" comic book came out, and how so many people bought it at exorbitant prices because they thought it would become so much more valuable over time?  That was right before the time the bottom fell out of the comic book market - those who bought it as some kind of investment for their retirement were sadly disappointed.  But those who just plain read it hopefully got some entertainment value out of it.  The supposed rarity of it was canceled out by the overheated value of the marketplace and the fact that most of the books issued were kept by collectors.  "Action Comics #1" is worth what it's worth because it was made at a time that comics weren't thought of as collectibles (much like other ephemera like playing cards) and as such very few survive today - in addition to the fact that it's the first appearance in print of a beloved superhero character, perhaps the first superhero.

[Evan]

Damn... I was really hoping that these would sell out that day or maybe the next day. But even with limited run of 5000 they're still in stock!
I was hoping to be able to resell them for a bit of profit but it doesn't look like thats gonna happen.

[Don Boyer]

Damn... I was really hoping that these would sell out that day or maybe the next day. But even with limited run of 5000 they're still in stock!
I was hoping to be able to resell them for a bit of profit but it doesn't look like thats gonna happen.

Don't make the "Death of Superman" mistake.  Buy a deck not because you think it'll go up in value for resale, but because you like (or love) it, and only buy enough to keep you happy (and maybe a little extra for trading purposes).  I actually made that mistake on a few decks this holiday season, but not to the point of breaking the bank, and I'm trading off some of the extra decks to get things I want more.


If you get a deck that shoots through the roof in value, fantastic.  But odds are more in favor of a deck not going insanely high, even if it is a 5000-deck release, since there's a lot of 5000-deck releases (and smaller).