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« on: May 03, 2016, 09:52:53 AM »
 

ozlemon

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Hi there, we designed the MOBIDECK, 54 Vintage Mobility Scenes & Artworks from the past, redesigned with new colours, backgrounds and combined to a very special and unique collectors deck. Linen Finish with Air Pockets in 310Gramm French Casino Quality, that might be raised to  the German Master Quality, if we get enough Support on Kickstarter.

Check it out: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2071911063/mobi-deck-the-vintage-mobility-deck-designed-by-da



















 

Re: THE MOBIDECK Playing Cards
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2016, 01:06:01 AM »
 

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The pricing is a little high for an MPC deck, but considering the work that went into it, it's not beyond the pale.  This isn't some standard template, even if it is repurposed public domain art - it's a full-custom job.  I like the whimsy of the design - it's a beautiful deck to look at, that's for sure.

I get a kick out of the fact that you can pledge for print files and make your own art prints and t-shirts.  It's actually a brilliant idea when you think about it - no shipping costs and people can print as large as they want on the medium of their choice.
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Re: THE MOBIDECK Playing Cards
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2016, 08:01:29 PM »
 

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This is a charming deck with a lot of character. I agree it's a bit expensive, but I'm in!  :D
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Re: THE MOBIDECK Playing Cards
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2016, 06:29:00 AM »
 

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Hi together,

thanks for your kind feedback :-)
Yes, we are struggling.. the campaign slows down, because we made some typical kickstarter-beginner-mistakes. We started much too early and did not get our communication in flow.
But we learned a lot in the last 3 weeks. Nevertheless, we do not believe that we will get the project funded this time, but we are planning a relaunch, maybe with another production and fulfilment service. Also to get better shipping rates. It's really difficult to handle this from Germany for the first time, but we are looking forward.. We also optimized the Tuckbox and some cards in small details

We will order the new decks as prototypes in the next weeks, and make new picture. As soon as we have a final pricing, we will try to push the communication and hopefully come back with more feeback.

We have two more decks in production.. the next one is our HEROES deck.. this is very special, it will be handprinted with Linoleum like a stamp and later recoloured and scanned for the final templates. So we will also print the Original Cuts on Cardboard.. but this needs still a lot of time.. I attached the first promotion layout... more coming soon..

I will post about the news soon...
Cheers, Oz
 

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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2016, 11:48:03 AM »
 

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We have two more decks in production.. the next one is our HEROES deck.. this is very special, it will be handprinted with Linoleum like a stamp and later recoloured and scanned for the final templates. So we will also print the Original Cuts on Cardboard.. but this needs still a lot of time.. I attached the first promotion layout... more coming soon..

I see a great artistic image of Lemmy and David! This is a great look from what I can see. I'm interested!  :D
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2016, 12:30:46 PM »
 

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Hi together,

thanks for your kind feedback :-)
Yes, we are struggling.. the campaign slows down, because we made some typical kickstarter-beginner-mistakes. We started much too early and did not get our communication in flow.
But we learned a lot in the last 3 weeks. Nevertheless, we do not believe that we will get the project funded this time, but we are planning a relaunch, maybe with another production and fulfilment service. Also to get better shipping rates. It's really difficult to handle this from Germany for the first time, but we are looking forward.. We also optimized the Tuckbox and some cards in small details

We will order the new decks as prototypes in the next weeks, and make new picture. As soon as we have a final pricing, we will try to push the communication and hopefully come back with more feeback.

We have two more decks in production.. the next one is our HEROES deck.. this is very special, it will be handprinted with Linoleum like a stamp and later recoloured and scanned for the final templates. So we will also print the Original Cuts on Cardboard.. but this needs still a lot of time.. I attached the first promotion layout... more coming soon..

I will post about the news soon...
Cheers, Oz

Heroes looks like it could be an awesome project - BUT you have some serious legal hurdles to cross first in regard to licensing the images of popular music stars.  The only times I ever see decks like this get made, it's usually by a music label (all their own artists) or by a music magazine (all the images come from their own photo shoots, for which they already have publishing rights).

Even if it's your own artwork, if it's in the likeness of someone famous, living or dead, you have to check on image and likeness rights.  In some cases, even people long dead have an estate that controls the legal rights to their likeness.  The trickiest part is that licenses for people's likeness are often restricted for sale to a specific region of the world - meaning you might get a license to sell the deck in the US but not in Europe, or in Europe but not in Asia, etc. - and you'd have to turn down backers from those countries as a result.  Finally, if someone or some company has exclusive rights to a specific person's image, be it worldwide or in a specific region, you simply won't get the license, period, and can't use that person's image in your deck.  For example, I could try to make a Star Wars playing card deck, but I'd be turned down for a license because in the US (and probably all of North America), Cartamundi has the exclusive license to make such decks, so no amount of money would permit me to do it unless I had Cartamundi do it for me and they agreed.
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Re: THE MOBIDECK Playing Cards
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2016, 01:09:07 PM »
 

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Hi and thx four feedback.

Yes the licences and rights are always very tricky, you're absolutely right. We do lot of artworks, and Anne is a painter and artist, and she repaints all artists from different pictures. Than we will cut those black & white picures out of Linoleum and create completely new pictures of our own.They will be printed like a woodcut printing, than be rescanned and coloured.

All Artists do not live anymore, this is the idea of HEROES.. and this is the only way to get "no direct problems" with the peoples rights. We already checked this out with a lawyer for Europe... We now have to check this for the rest of the world... and we will do this with a lawyer too... i would not like to have problems with the Jackson Family or so.. ;-)

We hope this will work, maybe not with all artists we planned in this deck, but hopefully with the most. It's important, that the artwork of the artistst is 100% your own Artwork and not a remake of an existing photograph... so you have to be very creative how to do this..



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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2016, 11:52:34 PM »
 

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Hi and thx four feedback.

Yes the licences and rights are always very tricky, you're absolutely right. We do lot of artworks, and Anne is a painter and artist, and she repaints all artists from different pictures. Than we will cut those black & white picures out of Linoleum and create completely new pictures of our own.They will be printed like a woodcut printing, than be rescanned and coloured.

All Artists do not live anymore, this is the idea of HEROES.. and this is the only way to get "no direct problems" with the peoples rights. We already checked this out with a lawyer for Europe... We now have to check this for the rest of the world... and we will do this with a lawyer too... i would not like to have problems with the Jackson Family or so.. ;-)

We hope this will work, maybe not with all artists we planned in this deck, but hopefully with the most. It's important, that the artwork of the artistst is 100% your own Artwork and not a remake of an existing photograph... so you have to be very creative how to do this..

Cheers, Oz

In the United States, deceased people can still have "protected" images requiring a license.  It falls under the purview of the person's estate.  We're weird here like that - in fact, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Building itself is protected and can't be printed without a license, except under certain circumstances, like news coverage and similarly protected uses.  How they enforce that, I have no idea...  So I can't make a deck of cards based on Harry Houdini, Jimi Hendrix or Marilyn Monroe without obtaining permission first from their estates or working with someone who has a license for it.  Certain uses would fall under "fair use," meaning it's permitted without a license, but making an item for sale with their image on it doesn't qualify as fair use unless it's done in the form of a parody.

It's one of the odd loopholes of copyright law in the US - parody is protected under the First Amendment to the US Constitution and doesn't require licensing.  It's not to say that people don't seek it anyway, but it's not mandatory by law.

Don't even get me started on trademarks.  Copyrights can expire, trademarks can be renewed in perpetuity - in essence, forever, if the company owning the trademark continually renews it.  Copyrights themselves last far longer in the US than they ever should have been allowed to, largely due to corporate intervention.  Originally, copyrights were meant to allow a creator to make some profit on an original concept, but eventually was meant to expire in order to permit the concept to become part of the public commons, for others to use and create derivative works from.  Today, however, copyrights last for so long, the generation in which a concept was created is mostly dead by the time they expire, rendering the ideas so old as to be practically alien to the culture in place at that time.  For example, if I created a copyrighted work today at age 48 and didn't die until age 80, that work wouldn't enter the public domain until the year 2128 - seventy years after my death.  If I did it "for hire" and the copyright was owned by a company, the copyright would last for the shorter of these two terms: 120 years after creation or 95 years after publication.  So that work would enter the public domain somewhere between 2111 and 2136, depending on when the company owing it got around to publishing it.

But I digress...  Legally speaking, you might have certain protections in Europe, but the laws in the US are different and can affect how you're able to offer and distribute your next KS deck, if you go forward without obtaining licensing rights.  Best to discuss it with an attorney that knows US copyright and trademark law before going forward - or to simply not offer it in the US.
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Re: THE MOBIDECK Playing Cards
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2016, 04:27:04 PM »
 

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Hi Folks,

we started with the pre-work and made the first test for the "Heroes" deck today... more following soon, I think we will open a new thread, when the first card layouts are finished.

The "Mobideck" will be relaunched in September with some optimizations, like the backside and the Tuck Box. And we will produce it with USPCC or LEGENDS to get better shipping rates in the US and to guarantee the best quality.

Stay tuned,
Cheers, Oz.