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Playing Card Plethora / Re: uncut sheet White Lions Series A - Blue
« on: November 17, 2020, 12:07:04 PM »
Today I received the answer of the webshop : the photo of the back of the uncut sheet was incorrect.

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I compared  the cards of the White Lions Series A Rainbow "black dot" deck with the cards of the Blue Edition deck.
I saw no difference between the cards under UV light !?
No fluorescence on the "black dot" cards.
What are the findings of other White Lions fans ?
And what about the cards of the White Lions Series A Rainbow "black lettering on the seal"  deck ?

If I remember correctly, there were two decks released with the Series A Rainbow markings on the box.

One - with the marker dot - was a blue backed deck printed with UV-sensitive paper, I think.

The other was the real "rainbow" deck.  In the process of switching from printing blue decks to printing red decks, rather than stopping the press, cleaning out the ink well and swapping ink colors, they simply started pushing red ink through the blue ink well, creating a transitional purple color, which varied in shade from blue to red.  No two decks were the same shade of purple.

As far as your deck not glowing - are you sure that it's a genuine Rainbow deck?  Are you using the right kind of light source?  Does the white on the paper glow?  Because it's not the ink that would glow - it's the paper.

I'm using the right light : it works with stamps and banknotes.
The paper of the Rainbow black dot card wasn't glowing, the white paper I put the card on did glow.
The color of the split spades on the back of the cards of that Rainbow deck isn't really blue, compared to the color of back of the White Lions Series A and B - Blue decks and that of the cards of the Stealth deck in my possession. The difference is clearly visible.
I think that the color of the back of my Rainbow cards with the black dot is a not so pronounced shade of purple.

I would like to hear from other collectors, who opened a Rainbow black dot deck, what their findings are.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: uncut sheet White Lions Series A - Blue
« on: October 09, 2020, 05:01:28 PM »
I was able to view a uncut sheet of the White Lions Series A - Blue on the David Blaine site via google (see two attachments) : there are two doublebackers.

But the deck in my possession and the one that was shown in a review on You Tube (July 27, 2012 - by Laura B.) contains one doublebacker and a card with three hands (showing how to throw away a card) !?

And an other odd thing is this :
The split spades on both sides of the doublebacker don't have the same blue color. The side with the same color as the back of the other cars is the "back side" of the doublebacker.
The blue color of the "front side" of the doublebacker is identical to the color of the split spades on the back of the "3 hands card".
The blue color of the front of the "3 hands card" corresponds to the color of the "back side" of the doublebacker and the color of the back of all the other cards of the deck !!!
Conclusion (?) : two "split spades sides" on the front of the uncut sheet and "3 hands side" on the back of the uncut sheet.

It sounds like not both decks are Series A - something tell me that you're describing a Series A deck and a Series B deck.  I think the series A deck had the graphic with the instructions on card throwing.

As far as a double backer having two different shades of the same color - that's more common than you'd think.  There's as much art as there is science when it comes to printing playing cards and applying ink to paper; the shades of ink aren't always 100% matched for every print run, and the shades of ink can vary from printing the faces to printing the backs.

The uncut sheet (front and back) was on David Blaine's website and you can still see it via google.
You can see on the front of the sheet that it is a Series A (see the joker).
The 1st odd thing : uncut sheet with  two double backers instead of one double backer and a card with the three hands
The 2nd odd thing : the shade of the color of the back of the card with the three hands (= Series A) is different from the shade of the color of the back of the other cards, and the shade of the color of the hands is the same as the shade of the color of the back of the cards, hence my conclusion.

I know that it is not unusual that the two sides of a double backer have a different shades of the same color. I only referred to this to compare it to the different shades of the color of the two sides of the card with the three hands : to prove that the back of this card  must therefore be on the front of an uncut sheet

I can add to this that my conclusion would show that the back of the uncut sheet on David Blaine's site is not the back of an uncut sheet of Series A or  that  there are Series A decks with two double backers and no card with three hands.
The front and back of the uncut sheet are still on David Blaine's shop "collectibles".
This morning I asked the webshop if there are two different White Lions Series A Blue decks.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: uncut sheet White Lions Series A - Blue
« on: October 09, 2020, 04:55:11 PM »
I was able to view a uncut sheet of the White Lions Series A - Blue on the David Blaine site via google (see two attachments) : there are two doublebackers.

But the deck in my possession and the one that was shown in a review on You Tube (July 27, 2012 - by Laura B.) contains one doublebacker and a card with three hands (showing how to throw away a card) !?

And an other odd thing is this :
The split spades on both sides of the doublebacker don't have the same blue color. The side with the same color as the back of the other cars is the "back side" of the doublebacker.
The blue color of the "front side" of the doublebacker is identical to the color of the split spades on the back of the "3 hands card".
The blue color of the front of the "3 hands card" corresponds to the color of the "back side" of the doublebacker and the color of the back of all the other cards of the deck !!!
Conclusion (?) : two "split spades sides" on the front of the uncut sheet and "3 hands side" on the back of the uncut sheet.

It sounds like not both decks are Series A - something tell me that you're describing a Series A deck and a Series B deck.  I think the series A deck had the graphic with the instructions on card throwing.

As far as a double backer having two different shades of the same color - that's more common than you'd think.  There's as much art as there is science when it comes to printing playing cards and applying ink to paper; the shades of ink aren't always 100% matched for every print run, and the shades of ink can vary from printing the faces to printing the backs.

The uncut sheet (front and back) was on David Blaine's website and you can still see it via google.
You can see on the front of the sheet that it is a Series A (see the joker).
The 1st odd thing : uncut sheet with  two double backers instead of one double backer and a card with the three hands
The 2nd odd thing : the shade of the color of the back of the card with the three hands (= Series A) is different from the shade of the color of the back of the other cards, and the shade of the color of the hands is the same as the shade of the color of the back of the cards, hence my conclusion.

I know that it is not unusual that the two sides of a double backer have a different shades of the same color. I only referred to this to compare it to the different shades of the color of the two sides of the card with the three hands : to prove that the back of this card  must therefore be on the front of an uncut sheet

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: White Lions Series A - Joker
« on: October 09, 2020, 03:30:13 AM »
101 views and still no reply !
Since my email to Mark Stutzman he also sees the old man.
Look at the joker from a distance and concentrate on the lion's mouth : it becomes the left eye of the old man with balding head and long white hair.

Sorry, but I'm not seeing it.  Perhaps if you posted a high-res scan of your joker card and pointed it out to us, we'd see it.

See attachment : I do hope you see it now.

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Playing Card Plethora / uncut sheet White Lions Series A - Blue
« on: October 05, 2020, 11:15:24 AM »
I was able to view a uncut sheet of the White Lions Series A - Blue on the David Blaine site via google (see two attachments) : there are two doublebackers.

But the deck in my possession and the one that was shown in a review on You Tube (July 27, 2012 - by Laura B.) contains one doublebacker and a card with three hands (showing how to throw away a card) !?

And an other odd thing is this :
The split spades on both sides of the doublebacker don't have the same blue color. The side with the same color as the back of the other cars is the "back side" of the doublebacker.
The blue color of the "front side" of the doublebacker is identical to the color of the split spades on the back of the "3 hands card".
The blue color of the front of the "3 hands card" corresponds to the color of the "back side" of the doublebacker and the color of the back of all the other cards of the deck !!!
Conclusion (?) : two "split spades sides" on the front of the uncut sheet and "3 hands side" on the back of the uncut sheet.



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Playing Card Plethora / Re: White Lions Series A - Joker
« on: October 02, 2020, 02:19:11 PM »
101 views and still no reply !
Since my email to Mark Stutzman he also sees the old man.
Look at the joker from a distance and concentrate on the lion's mouth : it becomes the left eye of the old man with balding head and long white hair.

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I compared  the cards of the White Lions Series A Rainbow "black dot" deck with the cards of the Blue Edition deck.
I saw no difference between the cards under UV light !?
No fluorescence on the "black dot" cards.
What are the findings of other White Lions fans ?
And what about the cards of the White Lions Series A Rainbow "black lettering on the seal"  deck ?

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Playing Card Plethora / White Lions Series A - Joker
« on: September 16, 2020, 02:18:57 PM »
Each time I look at this joker from a distance, I always see an old man, walking with his aligator, instead of a lion.

Let me know if you also see that old man.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: White Lions Stealth Deck
« on: September 14, 2020, 02:49:58 AM »
Thanks Don for the information.

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Playing Card Plethora / White Lions Stealth Deck
« on: September 09, 2020, 06:43:58 AM »
Are there two different tuck cases ?
One with the back of a White Lions Series A Red card and one with the back of a White Lions  Series A Blue card.
Difference in contents of the tuck case or in the
number of gaff cards ?
White Lions and Split Spades collector from Belgium.

I got the answer : the Split Spades on the back of the tuck case are always blue.
In the deck review video by Ronny V  they seemed to be red, but I now got the confirmation that they are blue.

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