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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Crappy new deck
« on: March 29, 2012, 02:23:53 PM »
Thanks for the feedback Nathan. As I mentioned on the kickstarter page, I'm aware of the possible copyright issues. If this gets off the ground at all I will have my friend (Who designed the cards) change any cards that could be a possible issue. I'm aware that a lot of people have spent hundreds of hours designing intricate decks, and I can definitely respect that. This is not supposed to be any competition to that, and I would hope people wouldn't try to compare the two. It's just a fun thing that a few friends have expressed interest in, so I wanted to see if there was enough interest to get a run of them.

There was actually an attempt on kickstarter to fund a deck of meme playing cards a few months ago. The cards looked worse than mine (I know, is that even possible, right?) and they raised $2,000 (When they were trying to raise $4,800).

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Crappy new deck
« on: March 29, 2012, 06:00:18 AM »
Rajas just added me on Facebook. I'll definitely talk to him about it. Thanks for the suggestion guys.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Crappy new deck
« on: March 29, 2012, 01:14:16 AM »
Thanks Aaron. As said before, the plan is to see what kind of response there is. If I don't reach the $3,000 goal but I get somewhere close ($2,000 or so), I'll probably pledge the last thousand myself to make sure it reaches the funding goal. Thanks for the support.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Crappy new deck
« on: March 29, 2012, 01:06:18 AM »
Thanks Linguist. The copyright issue was something a few people addressed when we were in the process of designing the cards. I'll definitely have to change a few of them (Such as Zoidberg and the any cards that bear a resemblance to a real person), but before I do that I wanted to see if there was any significant response. If I can find a company that can print a short run for a reasonable price and there's not much of a response from Kickstarter, I'll probably just fund it myself. My plan as of now is to wait a couple days and see if there's any interest in this deck. If so I'll redo anything that could pose legal issues. If not I'll just attempt to do it myself if possible. I've always been a fan of collecting playing cards, I have a couple hundred decks myself. Just thought this could have some potential. Thanks!

PS, I'll definitely check out the Brahma playing card company. I'll go to the website now. Thanks for the suggestion.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Crappy new deck
« on: March 29, 2012, 12:39:15 AM »
Hey everyone, this is Shane I'm the guy who created the project on Kickstarter. At first I was a little confused by the overwhelming negative statements on this board, and then I realized this is a forum for people who do this stuff professionally. Just as a quick response to the comments on here.

I'm not doing this in an attempt to make any significant profit. I obviously have to cover my costs, but the rewards and goals are based on the cost of having them made through a company. I received quotes from several different custom playing card manufacturers, and the cheapest I found was roughly $2,000 for a 500 deck run, which is too expensive to make it worthwhile, since the manufacturers would charge a tax and shipping fee on top of that. Also, kickstarter takes out 10%. The quote was around $2,800 for a 1000 deck run, or $2.80 per deck. That would be cheap enough on my part that I can give the backers on kickstarter a decent deal. I'm paying shipping out of my own pocket, so if the project does hit the goal, I would have to account for at least $2-$3 cost per person for shipping costs. For that reason, I said if we reach the goal of $3,000, I can do 1 deck for $10 (Taking into account shipping costs) or as many as 3 decks for the same cost, since if we raise $7,000 the cost of manufacturing them goes down significant. However I wanted to provide an incentive for pledging more, so I said if someone donates $100 AND we also raise the $7,000 needed to manufacture them at a cost of less than a dollar, I can sell them to the backers for only $2 per deck. I thought that would be a fair incentive where there's enough of a profit margin to make it worth my time, but it would be cheap enough that the backers would be getting a good deal. I don't necessarily expect to raise that much, but I figured that if we DID raise more, I'd like to give the backers a better deal, instead of trying to make a large profit off of each individual person.

Of course, I'm sure the people on this forum have more experience than I do in the subject. If anyone knows a place to get a good quality run for less than what I was quoted, please feel free to contact me. If there's a better option I'm completely willing to take down the project and re-evaluate my options. I've read a few articles and guides on how to make them myself, but I didn't see anything that seemed professional enough for my tastes. I'm a magician/poker player and have spent enough time with cards that I'd like to do a run sturdy enough to hold up to everyday wear. I have more experience handling cards, and not necessarily making them however, so I'm sure the average member of this forum would be a lot more knowledgeable than I in that regard.

In response to the comments of the decks being unattractive, I'm confused. Of course not everyone is into the meme/rage face subculture that has dominated websites such as reddit and stumbleupon, but the concept was not for mass appeal, it was for a group of people who are fans of and appreciate the inside jokes and comedy of rage comics and Reddit, which is the largest message board on the internet.

Again, I created this project because I figured there was a market for it. If anyone has suggestions for getting them produced cheaper, or for a different look, or anything at all, I'm completely open to constructive criticism. I don't take any negative comments personally, but hopefully I can get some sort of useful information from you guys, as I'm sure I could learn a lot from this place.

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