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Design & Development / Re: texasplayingcards.com
« on: January 26, 2013, 09:39:06 PM »
USPCC will make me 2 cut sheets.   their minimum is 2,500 decks, but they will do it.  it just cost a arm and a leg. 

i need 5000 of the first cut sheet and a minimum of  786 of the second cut sheet.  possible decks 5000 x .10 = 5500 / 7 lines of aces and jokers = 786


Hi Russell,
Here you go!  It’s pricey but we can do it.  Thanks so much!
 
Thanks,
Tiffany Mahan
Business Development Manager
The United States Playing Card Company
Phone: 859-815-7414
Fax: 859-815-7361
E-mail: Tiffanymahan@usplayingcard.com

its going to cost me $14,350 to make this deck from bicycle. 
  if you add box         $1,900
  custom seal              $379

thats like $3.32 per deck for a normal Bicycle Stock, Embossed with Magic Finish deck; and i know their are hidden additional cost.     

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Design & Development / Re: texasplayingcards.com
« on: January 25, 2013, 09:55:37 PM »
Don Boyer - check this out.  you can kind of see where i'm going with this.   http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/math/12435-would-you-stand-at-24/2/#post207034 and USPCC can print a deck with 64 cards.  it just cost a lot. 2 cut sheets.  http://texasplayingcards.com

tell you a secret if i'm successfully at this kickstarter i'm going to launch a indigogo project.  for the second run of these cards 001 002 2013.   

BTW: you could play solitaire, 5 cards poker, 7 card stud, texas hold'em with this deck with no problem.   

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Design & Development / Re: texasplayingcards.com
« on: January 24, 2013, 06:01:19 AM »
it seems its nice to tell a little story on kickstarter. i wrote this a while back when i was looking for someone to draw these cards. of course things have changed and don't take anything in this letter seriously. it just sorta gives you a glimpse of what i was thinking at that time.




yea i have a long road ahead. USPCC only produces a box that holds 56 cards. i found a company that makes tarot card boxes Quality Playing Cards, Inc. they can make a box that can hold 64 cards.
i have a rough drawing of the box, but im at that point were i need an artist. i cant draw.

the main problem i have is that USPCC only prints on a 8 x 7 sheet. it would be wonderful if they made a printer that printed
on 8 x 8 sheets. that would be perfect for me. i have come up with a solution though. what if we made 2 cut sheets. one would be:

2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,J,C,B,Q,K,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,J,C,B,Q,K,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,J,C,B,Q,K2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,J,C,B,Q,K = 56 cards. we would need 5000 prints.


the other cut sheet would be (J = Joker):

A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,A,J,J,J,J,J,J,J,J,J = 56 cards. we would need at least 834 prints of these.


i can imagine this and im not looking forward to it, but i would have fold the box to hold 64 cards 5000 times. take the cards from the first cut sheet put them into the box 5000 times. take 8 cards with the aces and jokers from the second cut sheet
and put them into the box 5000 times.

you might be asking why the last 8 are all jokers on the second cut sheet. will thats going to be my gimmick. on kickstarter i dont want to give out buttons, stickers, hats, or t- shirts. ill give out jokers. in fact ill have 1668 sets of jokers to give away. (834 sheets x 2)

i could say something like this "the first 1000 people who buy a deck of cards ill give you a set of 4 jokers for free" to get the ball rolling. after that its just a deck of cards.


ill tell you a little secret this deck of cards is only the transitional deck. I have already thought of the second deck i want to make. and this second deck i want to sell to the casinos. who would be the better customer. i have even thought of the name of the game it will be called "Gold King"
what better name than the highest card in the deck. you have get it out of your head that the Ace is the highest card. its only because of the french revolution (1789) that the ace became the highest. the ace back then represented the common person. well im hear to say the french revolution is over and the
reign of the ace for 223 years is going to change. sorry i did a rant.

back to gold king. to understand how i came up with the name is you have to know how "Black Jack" came about. back in the 1950's vegas casinos were giving 10 to 1 on your money if you were dealt a Ace of Spades and any other black jack (Jack of Clubs, Jack of Spades)
so if your sitting there with a big bet and you were dealt the Ace of Spades. you were banging the table and yelling "Give me a Black Jack"

well that is what i want the player to do with my game. i want him to bang the table and yell "Give me a Gold King" basically its a combination of black jack, spanish 21, and the tarot cards.
right now at the casinos to make a shoe they open 8 decks of cards take out the 2 jokers and 2 filler cards. i want to make it easy to where they just open the deck put them in the shuffle machine and thats it.

so this where i ask if you can take on this project. what would $1000 get me. im a 43 master plumber who in my lifetime so far has been screwed out of about $12000, but im will to take a chance.

in the transitional deck the court cards King, Queen, Bishop, Chevalier, Jack are all going to have the same blue dreary, pompous faces. i want that, but the jokers are going to be special.

there are 4 jokers: Joker of swords, Joker of staffs, Joker of coins, Joker of cups. i think the Joker of staffs would be the easiest to make. he will have a staff with his likeness on it. i do have an example. here is some homework.

http://table-tango.pokerworks.com/2006/ ... florentin/

http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks03/d01015/d01015.htm

now these cards have a renaissance style. im looking for a medieval style.
just check out the court cards and you have to get past the tits and ass. lol
the court cards tell a story and that is what im looking for. i want the jokers to tell a little story.

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Design & Development / Re: Problems with Kickstarter
« on: January 04, 2013, 08:13:58 PM »
wow alex that was a good post.

This is a recent replay from tiffany from USPCC.

Hi Russell,
Our options and pricing guide should help you out with these questions.  Thanks!

Air-cushion, magic and linen finish etc are all versions of embossed.  Different people use the different names as marketing techniques.  We use pantone metallics, you can use up to 6 inks of metallic/non metallic inks.



Thanks,
Tiffany Mahan


this is the pricing guide that i can not find on their website.  if you make cards they have to be from USPCC for the best quality,   this is not a quote from them for my cards.  just wondering if this will be deleted if i post this.  note: the price guide is old and may be higher and will be different for each designer.  i just wanted to share this for people who are thinking of making cards.

Options & Pricing as of 01/01/12*

Base Deck Price: This is before adding any options and prior to us viewing the artwork.  Artwork can change the cost of the deck if it is a difficult print with a high scrap rate.  This price is given to you on your custom quote.

Branded Custom decks:  For use of our branded names (Bicycle, Bee, Tally-Ho etc) branded pricing is required.  These prices include magic finish if requested.  Brand name can be listed on the tuck box but the card back design can be unique.  All custom branded artwork needs to be approved by the Brand manager before we are allowed to print. 

2,500 – 5,000 $2.72
5,000 – 7,499 $2.54
7,500 -  9,999 $2.37
10,000 – 14,999 $2.10
15,000 – 49,999 $1.71

Paper: Aristocrat and Bicycle paper are given as the standard with no additional charge.  Bee paper is $0.08 more per deck.  Please note that if Bee paper is requested an additional 4 weeks will be needed as the tucks are a different size and ordered from an outside vendor. 5,000 decks is also the minimum quantity for Bee paper.

Finish: Smooth and Embossed finish are available at no extra charge. 

Seals: USPC black seal is standard.  We can order custom seals when artwork for a custom seal is submitted.  Typical price is $0.10 per seal but depending on ink selection etc. it can be higher.  Foil seals are not doable. The impressor’s laser eye will not read them.


Inks: We use Pantone color inks and metallic inks.  The charge for metallic ink is $0.05 per metallic ink per deck.  Custom inks will be an additional price on a case per case basis.  More than 4 color inks will be an additional $0.04 per ink added to the deck price.

Custom Tucks from our Tuck vendor:  Price will vary depending on artwork, embossing/debossing, foil, quantity etc.  Once we have the artwork we can get a quote from the vendor.

Gilding: Gold and Silver foil gilding is available.  The base price for a custom deck with gilding is $4.60 per deck for 2,500 decks.  The paper for the deck has to be Aristocrat 300 and a special finish is necessary.  The artwork has to have a white border.  Extra time is needed for the gilding process, amount of time necessary depends on order quantity.

and by the way she is nice to talk to on the phone.

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Design & Development / Re: Introducing the Shield and Sheaf Deck!
« on: December 27, 2012, 09:39:39 PM »
or this cary-yale

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Design & Development / Re: Introducing the Shield and Sheaf Deck!
« on: December 27, 2012, 09:32:47 PM »
your design reminded me of the eagle within the shield.

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