Quote from: Collector on March 28, 2015, 12:26:14 PM

I have to say that I am not a fan of this gaff. IMHO (as always) - the back design without leaves (or even with slightly chopped ends of branches) could be more interesting for magicians.

I didn't know you were a magician.  Where do you perform?

No, I am not a magician. I am a spectator. And as a spectator I can imagine what gaff card will look better for such trick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjzvEAyA0TE

Creators are strange people to communicate.

I really want these decks to succeed this time, so I'll be posting Tweets on Twitter, Facebook and other sites like this one:

http://twitter.com/CthulhuWho1/status/579621718144073728

And I'm curious about how well other card collectors think messages like this will work towards card deck projects; and how often I should post them.

Will Hart
Fullerton, California

ps
Can this topic get updated so the current project and its link and images are at the top instead of the older project links and details?
 

Let me support you in this. Several modest words...

http://playingcardcollector.net/2015/03/22/nouveau-playing-cards-by-bona-fide-playing-cards/

Hello all!

I hope you're all doing well. We are launching very soon so i thought I'd post a few more photos here and give you a little insight into our EB Special!

For our Early Birds, 200 Individual decks of cards will be available for $10USD each.

Since we are from Australia, the campaign will be in AUD, just to keep that in mind. For your convenience we've put the converted prices in USD in the pledge options, just so you know what you're paying

Here are some more photos!

https://instagram.com/p/0YegYFGZ7V/?tak ... mesmilaras (COURT CARDS)
https://instagram.com/p/0bFP6sGZ1Z/?tak ... mesmilaras (BOX: SEAL)
https://instagram.com/p/0V61dlmZ1X/?tak ... mesmilaras (IN ACTION - SYBIL)
https://instagram.com/p/0Sb87GGZ39/?tak ... mesmilaras (IN ACTION - FRIFFLE)
https://instagram.com/p/0QzvKImZ7A/?tak ... mesmilaras (IN ACTION)

Not a big fan of the seal. Court cards are very nice.

Quote from: Collector on March 09, 2015, 04:59:30 PM

I don't see how I have hijacked this thread. And I always thought that the forum is for mutual exchange of opinions. I can try to find time and logically prove why the approach described by me is more useful for the campaign. And I also can easily find illogical things in answers on my above mentioned thoughts.

Other thing is that I also don't like the approach described by me. But, unfortunately, there are things that we like and find more logical, fair, and there are things that just work. Kleetz have chances to lose up to 30% of potential funding without regular updates and reveals of new designs of playing cards. IMHO, of course.

But it isn't my campaign, so I am calm about the chosen approach for it. It has started, so the approach isn't already important. Now the design and enough quantity of its fans are more important. The design is nice.

Good luck, Kleetz.

You're calling it your opinion, as in "In My Humble Opinion (IMHO)," yet you're quoting hard statistics from an unnamed source.  When you do that, you're actually presenting what you believe to be facts.  How, precisely, can he lose up to 30% of his funding by not using a tease campaign, and what's your information source?

Or are you trying to be contrary for the sake of being contrary?

It's very simple.  There likely are some people out there who love being teased through a deck campaign, be it Kickstarter or an ad campaign from a privately-funded deck producer.  I'm not one of them, and I know many others who are not - they've said as much in these boards.  Those of us who feel this way consider this to be our opinion and personal preference.  Do I have hard numbers?  No.  But as I'm not offering statistical facts, I don't really need hard numbers.  There's no point in refuting an opinion - it's just an opinion.

You're free to offer your opinions here; even anecdotal observations are cool.  But if you want to offer facts, back them up somehow.  Otherwise, they're still just your opinion.

Now please - let's drop this or take it to PMs.  Stay on-topic.

First of all, I’d like to find out how the second part of this

...You're free to offer your opinions here; even anecdotal observations are cool…

refers to this discussion? I have to think that this is your traditional quick switch to personal and attempt to offend any person having alternative opinion. You started from hijacking, then “anecdotal observations” and “stay on-topic”.

So, I am on-topic. This is an active Kickstarter project now and any discussion of its positioning, development or promotion is an integral part of the theme. When you post thousands of words (sometimes quite abstract) in every thread dedicated to different Kickstarter project it is a norm. When someone has an alternative opinion – it is off-topic.

...Or are you trying to be contrary for the sake of being contrary?

I don’t. But, unfortunately, you do. And this time you surpassed yourself. You invented non-existent fact in my message and then accused me of its groundlessness (factually of its absence). Have you ever heard any person ending to prove the Pythagorean theorem by words, “IMHO, of course”?

Let me discover a new world for you. “…Kleetz have chances to lose up to 30% of potential funding…” is just a value judgement – the same as your “…I know many others who are not - they've said as much in these boards…” (in this particular thread, only you and Kleetz among 10.000 registered users).

I understand that such things as “IMHO”, “I assume…”, “I suspect…”, “I suppose…” are a big problem for you. You don’t think within such categories. But try sometimes to read what people write before to comment that. Don’t interfere in communications of other members giving your assessments of other’s messages which you don’t understand and which aren’t directed to you (this is already about some other threads).

Any patience has its limits. There is a small embryo of BM Pokerworld in you. And it is growing. I say this as a person who has been writing on this forum several years and remember your first posts here. Try to understand that this Earth doesn’t revolve around your “I”. Otherwise, you will turn this forum into the place for your monologs.

P.S.
Please, save your time and don’t post here hundreds of rude jokes/hints and strict offences. I won’t read them anyway. I really hope you will change something in your world outlook and will find your harmony with surrounding world.

Quote from: Collector on March 08, 2015, 11:50:35 AM

Quote from: Don Boyer on March 08, 2015, 01:47:51 AM

Quote from: Collector on March 07, 2015, 10:28:26 AM

I think you didn't understand me. From what I understand on the basis of your test Kickstarter page - you are going to reveal all faces at the start of your campaign. So, you won't be able to reveal something due to that. That's why I said what I said. And I think that it is important to reveal faces step by step on Kickstarter because it helps to keep crowd's interest in your project on a higher level. Just thoughts

That's a matter of opinion, Collector.  Personally, before I back a project, I like to SEE what it is I'm backing!    I don't need to be strung along with silly, unnecessary teasers - I'm a big boy now.

Are you going personally to secure the funding of this project?

It's a matter of opinion. But as a big boy you could see a lot of strange or even illogical things these days. Don't you know that 60% of on-line materials are written not for people but for Google and Bing Re-read all those "amazing" instructions "How to attract 10000000... on-line users to your product", etc. Entertaining reading... till the moment you understand that it really works for modern users :O

Collector, drop it.  It's an opinion.  Agree to disagree and leave it be.  We've hijacked this thread enough.

I don't see how I have hijacked this thread. And I always thought that the forum is for mutual exchange of opinions. I can try to find time and logically prove why the approach described by me is more useful for the campaign. And I also can easily find illogical things in answers on my above mentioned thoughts.

Other thing is that I also don't like the approach described by me. But, unfortunately, there are things that we like and find more logical, fair, and there are things that just work. Kleetz have chances to lose up to 30% of potential funding without regular updates and reveals of new designs of playing cards. IMHO, of course.

But it isn't my campaign, so I am calm about the chosen approach for it. It has started, so the approach isn't already important. Now the design and enough quantity of its fans are more important. The design is nice.

Good luck, Kleetz.

Quote from: Collector on March 07, 2015, 10:49:34 AM

Quote from: Lee Asher on March 06, 2015, 04:27:30 PM

Those look sexy!

Wikipedia - Sexual fetishism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_fetishism

    

hahaha, I get the humor.

Unfortunately, Don didn't. But I am sure Lee will

Quote from: Collector on March 06, 2015, 09:01:25 AM

In the end of the day can be a very nice deck. I hope all court cards will be different.

Good news! Every single court card has been designed from the ground up. They're all different

Nice.

 

Quote from: Collector on March 06, 2015, 09:28:18 AM

I am not sure that it's a good idea to reveal all court cards at once.

Actually, it's not a bad idea. I can post updates revealing more cards.

Thanks collector!
-Kleetz

I think you didn't understand me. From what I understand on the basis of your test Kickstarter page - you are going to reveal all faces at the start of your campaign. So, you won't be able to reveal something due to that. That's why I said what I said. And I think that it is important to reveal faces step by step on Kickstarter because it helps to keep crowd's interest in your project on a higher level. Just thoughts

H-Y-Y-Y-P-E 

So, courts are almost the same.

More pictures of the Platinum Edition (courts)?