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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Playing Card Plethora => Topic started by: Evan on December 02, 2011, 05:11:52 PM
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Wooh! Some new releases coming! Sounds like December 6th is going to be a good day!
So far we've heard that Ellusionist has 2 releases (don't now what the are)
and The Blue Crown has at least one release!
The Blue Crown says, "Looks like it's gonna be a White December..."
Ellusionist: Magic Beyond Belief says, "Who's ready for a double release? December 6th, mark your calendars."
I heard White Arrco deck and it looks like that in the pic!
no pic from Ellusionist...
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Nice find. Aside from buying the decks I can resell to fund my collecting, I am not longer purchasing decks from places that pump out a new release every month.
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I saw this as well. The just ended their other deck series. It feels too soon to start another or anything like that. Should be exciting to see either way. I'm stoked to give gifts to everybody around me so I doubt Ill snag any.
and they said 100 likes and they would reveal it, and there is 105 so we should know very soon!
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Here it is! ;D
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Those looks very nice! It seems there have been a lot of black decks lately, this is a nice switch. Hopefully there will be more pictures sometime soon.
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And heres ONE of the ellusionist releases! Its a new app
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I saw the app! The app is pretty cool but not that great. I may get it but it doesn't seem to great.
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I saw the app! The app is pretty cool but not that great. I may get it but it doesn't seem to great.
Could you tell us what the app is, or send me a link or something. I really love doing magic on my iPhone!
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i would like to know the app as well....
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Yes,white is very refreshing to see as a back color.
I´ve never owned a deck of Arrco´s,how do they handle?
The words plastic coated is freaking me a bit.....all those cheap european playing cards have written Plastic Coated on them
and the handle really crappy.
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Yes,white is very refreshing to see as a back color.
I´ve never owned a deck of Arrco´s,how do they handle?
The words plastic coated is freaking me a bit.....all those cheap european playing cards have written Plastic Coated on them
and the handle really crappy.
Arrco regulations are possibly the best fanners out there. Magicians prefer them rather than flourishers.
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Cant say anything about the app! My lips are sealed :-*
Just wait until December 6th!
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Pics of the White Arrco
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Ooh, pretty... Magic Finish, ya think? Or tried-and-true original parts?
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it is god dam awesome .. act i was going to buy arrco deck from pokerstud52 a ebay seller but the blue crown crown v2 came out so i delay the time of buying and now the blue crown came up with another white arrco so lucky i never buy the arrco i am defintely going to buy this!!
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Well, the box says PREMIUM FINISH
So I don't think its magic finish ;)
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will this be limited?
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will this be limited?
We don't know yet, but I think it will be. We'll just have to wait to find out for sure.
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Hey guys. A little more history on the deck..
Arrcos are one of my all-time favorites. I'd been contemplating a custom run for a few years. Right around the time I was thinking of doing it, the older reprints (red, blue, black, and green) were made. I was excited, because it would save me the trouble of doing it! I was disappointed, as were many others, that the decks did not handle well. They looked great, but the quality just wasn't there.
Fast forward a couple years, and I decided that I wanted to bring some high-quality Arrcos back to the market. I went with white so that we could eliminate any confusion about what deck people were getting. If I'd made Red and Blue, people wouldn't necessarily know if they were getting Cincinnati, old reprints, or new ones. Whites have never been made before, and I wanted it to be very clear to people that these are NOT associated with the black-seal reprints.
The run was done by my company, The New York Magic Project. I also work quite a lot with my friends at the Blue Crown, so they will be carrying some of the decks too.
For this first run of Whites, we made 5,000. Gotta see if the market demand is there. Personally, I would love to continue to make additional runs of the Whites, and also branch into bringing Red and Blue back to the market, and possibly Black or Green. If it looks like the demand exists, it won't be a problem. So, for now, there are 5,000 white decks. There may or may not be more in the future, that will depend on how things go with the first run and the feedback we get. So if you love them, let us know!
We printed on 325 stock and magic finish, they feel absolutely wonderful. The design is the classic Arrco US Regulation, in an inverted black and white color scheme.
Since these decks are not plastic coated like the older Arrcos, we changed any references on the box/jokers to it. We don't want to mislead people into thinking that these are plastic coated, because they are not.
The jokers are virtually identical, we've worked a reveal into one of them. There are also no ad cards, you get 2 different double-backers instead. The deck is also in a special stack, it's not regular new deck order.
Hopefully that answers most of the questions you guys have about the cards. They'll be available this Tuesday, the 6th. You can pick them up from The Blue Crown, or from our dedicated Arrco site, which will be launching on Tuesday.
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Thank you so much for the info. I will pick up a few.
Is this what "The Blu Crown" meant when they said it was going to be a white December?
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Well, the box says PREMIUM FINISH
So I don't think its magic finish ;)
Yes, they have the Magic finish, which is USPC's top-of-the-line premium finish. I just prefer the terminology of "premium" on the box itself, since many people out there wouldn't know what "magic finish" means when printed on the box.
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@Reylek
How much will they be per deck?
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Well, the box says PREMIUM FINISH
So I don't think its magic finish ;)
Yes, they have the Magic finish, which is USPC's top-of-the-line premium finish. I just prefer the terminology of "premium" on the box itself, since many people out there wouldn't know what "magic finish" means when printed on the box.
Lol yea I realize that now that you told us :)
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Could you give us a price please? I am probably going to pick up a few! ;)
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These decks are bargain-priced at only $20 each!
Just kidding, it's nowhere near that much. Price will be announced when the decks go on sale on the 6th.
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These decks are bargain-priced at only $20 each!
Just kidding, it's nowhere near that much. Price will be announced when the decks go on sale on the 6th.
Lol... im guessing $5.95 per deck because thats the price of the crown decks but thats just a guess
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These decks are bargain-priced at only $20 each!
Just kidding, it's nowhere near that much. Price will be announced when the decks go on sale on the 6th.
Lol... im guessing $5.95 per deck because thats the price of the crown decks but thats just a guess
Yea but the black crown who also had a 5k print run had a 7.95 price tag.
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I will buy some if they are cheap enough.
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These decks are bargain-priced at only $20 each!
Just kidding, it's nowhere near that much. Price will be announced when the decks go on sale on the 6th.
Lol... im guessing $5.95 per deck because thats the price of the crown decks but thats just a guess
Yea but the black crown who also had a 5k print run had a 7.95 price tag.
Black Crown had metallic inks and I think an embossed box. Thats adds some money
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Anyone know what time these go on sale and if we will be able to buy them from other sites aside from just thebluecrown.com?
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Anyone know what time these go on sale and if we will be able to buy them from other sites aside from just thebluecrown.com?
Don't know an exact time.
And they will probably be available here too: http://newyorkmagicproject.com/
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the white arrco will have 5000 decks printed and after they sold out there might be reprint ?
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the white arrco will have 5000 decks printed and after they sold out there might be reprint ?
They said if the demand is there, then they may reprint them
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Great! I won't be hurried to buy them then.
I'm dying because of this shipping. Everyone releasing decks every week.
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The run was done by my company, The New York Magic Project. I also work quite a lot with my friends at the Blue Crown, so they will be carrying some of the decks too.
Hey, I love that site - I was on there earlier and it's still loaded in my browser! I just got my Christmas bonus from work and was considering a little shopping. Why oh why don't you have a retail shop of your own somewhere in the city? Two great shops are nice, but three would be so much better!
Yes, they have the Magic finish, which is USPC's top-of-the-line premium finish. I just prefer the terminology of "premium" on the box itself, since many people out there wouldn't know what "magic finish" means when printed on the box.
Ellusionist does the same thing - they call Magic Finish "Performance Coating" but it's the exact same stuff. Apparently they think their name is classier!
Pretty much everyone in the card collecting and magic/cardistry communities know what Magic Finish is by now! But Premium sounds better.
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Reylek, thanks for the post! I'm looking forward to this deck and seeing what else you come up with in the future!! The arrcos are a great deck and this new white color variation is awesome! so fresh 8)
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The Arrcos look interesting, might have to take a look at them. Nice work, Reylek. :)
Ellusionist does the same thing - they call Magic Finish "Performance Coating" but it's the exact same stuff. Apparently they think their name is classier!
Pretty much everyone in the card collecting and magic/cardistry communities know what Magic Finish is by now! But Premium sounds better.
Actually, Performance Coating was the project's name when we were developing the finish in cooperation with USPCC. USPCC later decided to refer to it as 'Magic Finish' when they offered it to other companies and customers, so 'Performance Coating' has been around longer than 'Magic Finish'. ;)
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I think the new app is already on the app store since yesterday.
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BIG NEWS!!!
A VERY LIMITED SUPPLY OF WHITE ARRCO DECKS WILL BE AVAILABLE TONIGHT AT 12am EST! The Blue Crown
thebluecrown.com
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Anybody have info on the other website releasing these? I have purchased a few decks from the NY magic project but it says somewhere in this thread about them launching an Arcco dedicated site.
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Anybody have info on the other website releasing these? I have purchased a few decks from the NY magic project but it says somewhere in this thread about them launching an Arcco dedicated site.
Well, I believe it was the NY Magic Project who got the decks printed. It says "NYMP" on the bottom of the deck box.
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yeah I know about the NYMP. ( side note: They have excellent customer service if anyone sees anything interesting on there. I bought the last of their white ghost stock and they were all OHIO UV500 decks!.) I was asking if anyone had heard the web address for their Arrco dedicated site.
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Hey guys. Yes, it is an NYMP deck, but it will not be on our traditional site. We are switching over to a new system with a dedicated URL for the Arrcos. Launch will be at 12:00AM (midnight) EST tonight, so basically about 7 hours after this post.
Our friends over at The Blue Crown will have a limited supply of the decks, and I'd certainly encourage folks to pick the decks up over there, along with some of the beautiful new 2nd edition Crown Decks. One great thing is that the Crown decks and White Arrcos all use Arrco faces, so they can be used together for various odd-backed routines that require cohesive faces.
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I actually don't really like the idea of releasing decks so close to each other. I believe that they should ship out the Black Crowns before they send out anything else. I haven't even gotten my confirmation yet, and they now decide to release something else. Now, with this release, they are going to be doubly packed. I just hope I can get mine soon!
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I tried the custom Arrco site, but no dice.
I tried thebluecrown.com - bought a brick.
I'm up for selling extras if people get shut out. (Not likely on this release, but still.)
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I bought 2 of them,one for the collection and one for magic - btw they sold out under 30minutes.
Haven´t recieved any shipping confimration for my black crown decks either....as long as its delivered before christmas i´m fine.
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currently they are still aviable at http://arrcocards.com/products/arrco-playing-cards/#
same prices like at Thebluecrown!
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I just noticed they're sold out now - checked the BC site. That was quick.
When I get my brick I'll post a sale for them, reasonably priced.
And yes, the site Cosmicsecret spotted has them, plus uncut sheets. BC had them in stock first - I tried loading arrcocards.com and kept getting the "coming soon" screen moments after midnight, while BC had them for sale. The Arrco site is branded with the NYMP logo.
I like this in the features description on the Arrco site, just after the stuff about the two double-backers:
"There may just be other surprises to find as well!"
Hmm.....
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well one of those secrets i think it will be a barcode reveal but i hope i´m wrong!
They should keep making decks which are pre stacked - love it!
This is far more practical then doing some faro´s and overhand shuffles to get into SiStebbins or simular stacks from a new deck order (Ace through King).
God...i´ve become so lazy the last years hehehe :-X
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Hm... seems as if it's a deck made for magicians now, i like it. although, it's tough to decide on the uncut sheets. only 50 to be sold. right now my bank doesn't have the dough, but if I can get money in it by tomorrow, i might just get it.
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If i think about it,it was a very good sales tactic!
Having them first aviable and sell out at the BlueCrown within 30minutes
then making them aviable on the other website.
This creates a "i have to get these now feeling,they gonna be raaaare"
well done guys!
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PREMINITION iS OUT! Just go to the app store on your iPhone and search for Ellusionist.
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I hope the 2nd release come outs soon
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PREMINITION iS OUT! Just go to the app store on your iPhone and search for Ellusionist.
I saw this app 2 days ago.
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PREMINITION iS OUT! Just go to the app store on your iPhone and search for Ellusionist.
I saw this app 2 days ago.
Oh really, that's cool. Did you get it, and do you like it? I just bought it and I haven't had the time to use it yet, though it looks great, but I would only recommend it if you have an iPhone: not iPod Touch or iPad, since the whole point of this trick is based around the concept of voicemail.
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I just bought a brick as well. They still have plenty at http://arrcocards.com/products/arrco-playing-cards/# (http://arrcocards.com/products/arrco-playing-cards/) 3,285 decks left after I bought my brick 8)
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Hey Levi, you plan on doing a review of Premonition? I would like to hear some feedback before buying.
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I'll probably do a review of it soon ;)
Its an awesome app! And I recommend it to everyone with an iPhone
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Hey Levi, you plan on doing a review of Premonition? I would like to hear some feedback before buying.
Alright, sure. I will try to have it out by the end of the week. Setup kinda takes a while but it is still pretty cool.
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Ordered a couple of the White Arrcos. I love simple and elegant design.
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I really hope they come out for one for Android, because a quarter of E's customers are probably Android users.
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I'm not sure that they will. Granted, Android has a robust fraction of the market for phones - but Apple has the market practically cornered for apps. Their previous "Invisible Deck" app wasn't ported, as far as I know.
BTW: "Invisible Deck" is a good app, perfect for doing a card trick without the cards. "Premonition" is a variant of Invisible Deck, and a very powerful one - I saw the demo video for it and plan to get the app ASAP. I don't even know what it costs yet, and I'm still getting it regardless!
T11 has a "Rising Card" app for iPhone - it's yet another variant of Invisible Deck, but with a Rising Card effect as a bonus. I don't recall the name of David Blaine's iPhone app, but it's not as good - it has a success rate of maybe 50-70% in my experience. I can explain why, but I don't want to reveal the trick.
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Everyone! If you have an iPhone, get this app!!! Its amazing!!! I got it for my iPod touch (i know it doesn't work but I'm getting an iPhone soon) and i know it will get great reactions! Also, my friend used it today on his iPhone and its crazy! People freak out!
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Everyone! If you have an iPhone, get this app!!! Its amazing!!! I got it for my iPod touch (i know it doesn't work but I'm getting an iPhone soon) and i know it will get great reactions! Also, my friend used it today on his iPhone and its crazy! People freak out!
I agree. I love it too!
My only problem is that the "plot" of the trick is you called yourself because of this "premonition". It would make much more sense for it to be the Voice Memmos app, because no one calls themselves (I don't even think that's possible, well at least not on Verizon), but much more people leave reminders and such. The visuals are great, but I just don't think the plot makes sense.
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Everyone! If you have an iPhone, get this app!!! Its amazing!!! I got it for my iPod touch (i know it doesn't work but I'm getting an iPhone soon) and i know it will get great reactions! Also, my friend used it today on his iPhone and its crazy! People freak out!
I agree. I love it too!
My only problem is that the "plot" of the trick is you called yourself because of this "premonition". It would make much more sense for it to be the Voice Memmos app, because no one calls themselves (I don't even think that's possible, well at least not on Verizon), but much more people leave reminders and such. The visuals are great, but I just don't think the plot makes sense.
Thats very true.
On verizon, if i call myself, it brings me to my voicemail box
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Everyone! If you have an iPhone, get this app!!! Its amazing!!! I got it for my iPod touch (i know it doesn't work but I'm getting an iPhone soon) and i know it will get great reactions! Also, my friend used it today on his iPhone and its crazy! People freak out!
I agree. I love it too!
My only problem is that the "plot" of the trick is you called yourself because of this "premonition". It would make much more sense for it to be the Voice Memmos app, because no one calls themselves (I don't even think that's possible, well at least not on Verizon), but much more people leave reminders and such. The visuals are great, but I just don't think the plot makes sense.
Thats very true.
On verizon, if i call myself, it brings me to my voicemail box
Exactly. It does the same for me. Hopefully if Marcus or someone else from E reads this they can hopefully allow this to happen in a new update.
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If you need to explain to someone how you phoned yourself, simply just say you used your home landline or someone else's phone to call your cell and leave a message for yourself.
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If you need to explain to someone how you phoned yourself, simply just say you used your home landline or someone else's phone to call your cell and leave a message for yourself.
I know but it is still kinda weird and fishy. I just think using the Voice Memmos app would be the cleanest and make the most sense.
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Guys, it's not rocket science. Sure, many people never call themselves. But you're a MAGICIAN, and you decided to do a PREDICTION days in advance. It's not that hard to sell the idea that you called yourself to record it to voicemail. How many people email themselves reminders, or call their own voicemail so as to not forget something important? I've done both on occasion.
The Voice Memo thing can trip you up, because they can claim you recorded 52 different memos or something. The idea of calling yourself 52 times seems more ridiculous, and does the app have a call log to show there was just one call?
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To make the trick more convincing, the call log had a few call in it from some of the names of your friends.
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Perfect. The Penn & Teller app does the same for texts. That app, btw, is freakin' cool! It's Invisible Deck with the "deck" being your choice of Penn or Teller responding via SMS!