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Title: Bicycle Pin-Up
Post by: jmac on May 18, 2015, 07:51:11 PM
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/yellowmoondecks/bicycle-pin-up

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Bicycle Pin-Up
Post by: Don Boyer on May 19, 2015, 12:08:08 AM

Thoughts?

...that you might want to include some images from the project next time?  :))

Relax, it's cool - just messin' with the new guy.  I added photos for you.

I have my doubts about this one.  First of all, the format he chose for the art is terrible - big ugly indices combined with thick-line frames around the art, as if the card wasn't small enough already.  Second, he's saying USPC signed off on this - but did he get IP licensing from ALL the artists?  Much of the pin up art from the '40s and '50s is still under copyright.  Without that, USPC Legal will squash the project.  He's not even including the credits for the artists responsible for the art.

It's a "don't back" for me, legal question notwithstanding.  This type of work has been done before, and done better.

EDIT: just checked my email - it's from CollectablePlayingCards.com.  They have put out more meh cards in the Bicycle brand in the past year or two than even Bill Merz - and that's no easy accomplishment, I tell ya.

(http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/yellowmoondecks/bicycle-pin-up/minichart.png) (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/yellowmoondecks/bicycle-pin-up/)
Title: Re: Bicycle Pin-Up
Post by: Worst Bower on June 09, 2015, 09:58:31 AM
There's something fishy about the funding. For the longest time it was stuck at 68% then it just jumped to 92% with 4 backers pledging $2,269 in one day. That's over $567 per backer unless it was just one really enthusiastic backer throwing all that cash in.

https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/yellowmoondecks/bicycle-pin-up/#chart-daily (https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/yellowmoondecks/bicycle-pin-up/#chart-daily)
Title: Re: Bicycle Pin-Up
Post by: Don Boyer on June 09, 2015, 11:10:31 AM
There's something fishy about the funding. For the longest time it was stuck at 68% then it just jumped to 92% with 4 backers pledging $2,269 in one day. That's over $567 per backer unless it was just one really enthusiastic backer throwing all that cash in.

https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/yellowmoondecks/bicycle-pin-up/#chart-daily (https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/yellowmoondecks/bicycle-pin-up/#chart-daily)

Ordinarily, I would agree that something smells rotten in Denmark.  However, Steve Guistolise has two previous projects under his belt, one of which was a success and made it into people's hands.  I mentioned earlier that I got an email from CollectablePlayingCards.com about this deck - it could be that he's gone into some kind of financing arrangement with them and they dropped a fat stack of cash on it now.  It's hard to say with a strong degree of certainty, especially with CPC involved.  They've delivered literally dozens of decks by now (though it seems more like hundreds) without dropping the ball as far as I know.  They're not pretty decks, not to my eyes, anyway, but they are Bicycle decks...

Here's the web version of the email I received.

http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?ca=e1bbc832-ff7f-41c2-907d-3e8b773b6cf3&c=24acf7b0-8c29-11e3-83f9-d4ae527b77f8&ch=0d0048d0-f888-11e3-a5c9-d4ae527b77f8
Title: Re: Bicycle Pin-Up
Post by: chas0039 on June 13, 2015, 09:13:57 AM
Hopefully, CPC will kick in a bit to put this over the top.  While Don‘s comments are spot on,  I still like it.  It would be a shame to see it fail for a few dollars.
Title: Re: Bicycle Pin-Up
Post by: fireshaper on June 17, 2015, 01:47:49 AM
Hopefully, CPC will kick in a bit to put this over the top.  While Don‘s comments are spot on,  I still like it.  It would be a shame to see it fail for a few dollars.

Your wish is granted.
Title: Re: Bicycle Pin-Up
Post by: chas0039 on June 17, 2015, 09:33:01 AM
Hopefully, CPC will kick in a bit to put this over the top.  While Don‘s comments are spot on,  I still like it.  It would be a shame to see it fail for a few dollars.

Your wish is granted.

Great to see.  I love this style of deck and these are very classy.
Title: Re: Bicycle Pin-Up
Post by: Rob Wright on June 18, 2015, 02:59:15 AM
There's something fishy about the funding. For the longest time it was stuck at 68% then it just jumped to 92% with 4 backers pledging $2,269 in one day. That's over $567 per backer unless it was just one really enthusiastic backer throwing all that cash in.

https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/yellowmoondecks/bicycle-pin-up/#chart-daily (https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/yellowmoondecks/bicycle-pin-up/#chart-daily)

Ordinarily, I would agree that something smells rotten in Denmark.  However, Steve Guistolise has two previous projects under his belt, one of which was a success and made it into people's hands.  I mentioned earlier that I got an email from CollectablePlayingCards.com about this deck - it could be that he's gone into some kind of financing arrangement with them and they dropped a fat stack of cash on it now.  It's hard to say with a strong degree of certainty, especially with CPC involved.  They've delivered literally dozens of decks by now (though it seems more like hundreds) without dropping the ball as far as I know.  They're not pretty decks, not to my eyes, anyway, but they are Bicycle decks...

Here's the web version of the email I received.

http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?ca=e1bbc832-ff7f-41c2-907d-3e8b773b6cf3&c=24acf7b0-8c29-11e3-83f9-d4ae527b77f8&ch=0d0048d0-f888-11e3-a5c9-d4ae527b77f8


This probably explains a lot!
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(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/avatars/4287740/ClassicsPlayingCards3.original.jpg?v=1402523519&w=160&h=160&fit=crop&auto=format&q=92&s=25e283b13cee066748cc39fdaecc8a83) Classics Playing Cards 

Chicago, IL

My name is Steven and I am an entrepreneur. I have created Classics Playing Cards for the collectors of the world. I love the classics and I will make sure to create decks that will stand the test of time. My father, Mike Guistolise, introduced me to customizing playing cards, which I have always been fascinated with. He owns one of the largest online magic sites, magictrickstore.com. He also owns collectableplayingcards.com.
Title: Re: Bicycle Pin-Up
Post by: Don Boyer on June 18, 2015, 09:09:34 AM
So these fat infusions of cash - they're probably from his dad!  It would be nice to know for certain, though.  Has anyone asked him about it?