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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Playing Card Plethora => Topic started by: Fud on May 16, 2015, 05:59:08 AM
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Hi Everyone,
The Prism cards are well into production so we're having an Early Christmas Sale! Pick up your Christmas presents for 25% off at the EPC store:
http://www.elephantplayingcards.com.
Just use promo code: 'xmas25' for 25% off everything! That includes decks, uncuts, promo's and posters :)
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Looking good mate :D
Btw what finish are you getting on this deck?
and who will be doing the fulfilment?
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The finish will be 'holographic ink' from LPCC - it is similar to MPC's 'impressions' (which is what the prototype is), but slightly thinner and neater, and has a bit of a rainbow shine to it. The fulfillment will also be through LPCC - keeping it in house makes sense to me to reduce possible delays and issues.
I've also fixed up the project picture - I'll be updating the kickstarter link shortly, and taking any and all comments before it goes live in a few days. Stay posted!
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I posted some suggestions on the feedback on the kickstarter mockup page. There is a lot. I am only trying to make your project better and easier to understand. Hope my critique is helpful. Good luck.
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Thanks for your comments. You are right - there were a lot of them! But I really appreciate you taking the time to go through it all thoroughly. As a first kickstarter campaign, experienced advice like that is invaluable. I'll go through the page updating for your comments and get the ball rolling!
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Hi Guys,
The Prism: Night playing cards are finally ready for kickstarter! There is just one thing left - take a better project image. I'm getting onto that tomorrow, but for now, please have a look at the kickstarter page and let me know if there is anything I should change before it goes live!
Super excited!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/585926215/866448597?token=fe090035
Fud
The biggest, most important piece of advice I could give you right now would be to CHANGE THAT COMPANY NAME. I don't know about Australia, but in the US, it's an acronym meaning "fear, uncertainty and doubt" - a tech industry phrase for the sensation people get when leaving the known (a particular operating system or brand of gadget) and switching to a different one. FUD is something that tech marketers will prey upon when trying to prevent you from switching.
Second piece of advice - make the page a bit shorter. There's a LOT to scroll through there.
Third piece of advice - ditch the reward with TWO uncut sheets. I've never seen ANYONE buy two uncut sheets! How many walls do you think most people have? :))
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We are READY TO GO!!!
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Prism: Night is now LIVE ON KICKSTARTER!
Please visit, buy a box, and get behind this great creation!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/585926215/prism-night-playing-cards
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Nuts, AU time zones and I missed the early bird. $14 is a bit too high.
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It does look high, but consider that a deck like this, printed in this manner, tends to fetch an even higher premium than this. I think it's worth the price.
Glad you took my advice, "Fud"!
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They may get me yet. The more I look at it...
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They may get me yet. The more I look at it...
Trust me, they are awesome! As I said in the campaign - the pictures don't do the actual cards justice - every angle has a different shine to it. I am really looking forward to getting the uncuts - if the individual cards look that good, they will be really awesome all together in a nice frame hanging on my wall :)
I also have a deck review in the works from Victor Jose - should be up in a week or so hopefully. With that you'll be able to see even more clearly the shine of the gloss and how it handles in real life!
And thanks for the comments Don. You were right - this name is much better :)
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Check out the article Jyl was kind enough to write for Prism: Night playing card!
http://icollectplayingcards.com/prism-night-playing-cards-on-kickstarter-now
And keep tuned for a deck review by Victor Jose soon :)
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New article out by Ivan at Kardify!
http://www.kardify.com/2015/06/kickstarter-7-questions-with-ben-jones.html
And we're at 40%! Great start, slowing down a bit towards the middle, need everyone's help to share this around for a strong finish!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/585926215/prism-night-playing-cards
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I thought I had backed this one already - just did now, for two decks.
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Thanks Don! If you are backing it, that means a lot :)
Unfortunately, Prism: Night playing cards looks to have stalled out around 40% with less than half the time left for funding. I'm fairly certain this won't fund this time around, and would like to know from the experienced people what the best way forward would be?
From my perspective it looks like the decks were priced a bit high and the goal was too high. My preference would be to cancel funding now, adjust a few things, lower the price slightly and the goal substantially, and relaunch in a few days. Would this be a good move, or would waiting until it doesn't fund at the full period be best?
Any advice would be helpful here :)
Thanks
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Thanks Don! If you are backing it, that means a lot :)
Unfortunately, Prism: Night playing cards looks to have stalled out around 40% with less than half the time left for funding. I'm fairly certain this won't fund this time around, and would like to know from the experienced people what the best way forward would be?
From my perspective it looks like the decks were priced a bit high and the goal was too high. My preference would be to cancel funding now, adjust a few things, lower the price slightly and the goal substantially, and relaunch in a few days. Would this be a good move, or would waiting until it doesn't fund at the full period be best?
Any advice would be helpful here :)
Thanks
It used to be considered a big deal when someone canceled a project midway, like a vote of no confidence in the project by its creator. These days, I don't think people fret so much over it - it's become commonplace for stalled projects to get cut short early and restarted. Just be certain that the newer, lower numbers will allow you enough of a margin for error in terms of getting your project made without running out of cash. Promotions might help as well - give backers greater incentive to back at higher levels, perhaps with sharper discounts, or free decks if they refer new backers.
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Hi everyone,
I am sad to say that I will be cancelling funding for the Prism: Night campaign short of the project dead line. The reasons for this are mainly because I feel that I have set the project goal too high, and the price per deck was just out of some backer’s reach. That being said, I want to sincerely thank everyone who has supported this project; it really means a lot to me that over 200 people think this project is worth funding! Thank you!
The good news!
During the last few weeks we have been analyzing the project; looking for ways to make it cheaper and more affordable, and I am glad to say that those labors have paid off! Through negotiations with Legends Playing Cards we have been able to drop the price per deck, making it more affordable for everyone! As a result, we will be RELAUNCHING this project soon – Saturday the 20th of June to be exact, with a lower project goal that I am confident that we can meet!
The most common concern about the cards was that they were too expensive per deck – a concern I fully understand. Unfortunately, the reason why there are no other playing card project like this is because adding another layer of special ink across every card face is not cheap. The original project prices included less margin than a ‘regular’ $11 Kickstarter deck, so with the new reduced pricing… well, let’s just say make sure to get them now because you won’t see them this cheap again! These cards are very hard to make work; technically, financially and production wise – so you are guaranteed a very unique product that is unlikely to have anything like it!
Not only have we been able to drop the price of the decks and the overall project funding goal, but we will now be including standard seals to all decks for free! The numbered seals will still be an unlockable stretch goal, but now you get that awesome elephant head on every deck you pledge for!
Finally, you may have noticed that several reviews were published about Prism: Night playing cards throughout the campaign. There are another few more lined up to be released soon and a video deck review by the great Victor Jose coming as well. We will also include a video showcasing these incredible cards and answering some of the more commonly asked questions about them.
In conclusion…
We still have every confidence in this project and are confident that with our incredible backers and adjusted campaign we will be able to successfully fund Prism: Night playing cards and get them our into the world where they belong! I hope you share my excitement for this unique deck, because the finished product will be awesome!
If you would like to stay up to date with the progress and how things are going with the relaunch, we will be posting updates on our social media accounts. We will also be holding regular competitions via Facebook and Twitter with free deck giveaways, so make to visit and follow us to be in with a chance to win!
Again, a huge thank you to everyone who has supported this project so far. This isn’t over, see you very soon!
Ben
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As a means by which to promote customer loyalty and get your old backers to return, offer them an incentive of some kind, if possible financially. For example, one possible option would be to give them automatic Early Bird pricing IF AND ONLY IF a) they are on your previous list of backers from the old project and b) they back within the first weekend. You're in essence extending the Early Bird offer for them to lure them back. Then fire off a project update to them from the old project, announcing the new project and the incentive. You'd make a special tier for them alone and lock the tier after the weekend is done (or if everyone re-enlists before the weekend ends). The drawback would be that if anyone tries to back on that special tier who wasn't a previous backer, you'd have to decline their pledge - but those are probably not the kind of customers you'd want to deal with in the first place.
That's just one possible example. Others would be things like a free upgrade to the next-better deck (assuming you create more than one version), a free pack of cards for their loyalty (if they pledge at a certain tier or higher), free autographs on request, etc. Some of those example will cost a few bucks, some won't cost a thing (autographs only cost time and Sharpie ink).
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I see what you're doing there Don - bumping up past backers eh? :D
But seriously, good idea. The margins are extremely tight with the new pricing structure so I don't think continuous earlybird is an option else I'll be losing money. I'll have a think about it, but free decks for certain pledge tiers seems like a reasonable way to go, and who doesn't like free decks? That would also fix the problem of people trying to get in without having pledged the first time.
I'll be back with some ideas in a few days and a revamped campaign :)
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I'm not sure how these will handle but they look lovely. Looking forward to seeing the relaunch of these and perhaps making a purchase.
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I‘ll be checking back as well.
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Thanks Guys :)
I've managed to get a few costs down which I have passed onto the backers. Hopefully that makes it affordable enough for everyone :)
I've also got some great surprises, including a new deck and some sweet prizes, but that will be coming soon.
AND I've just done a quick video showing the cards in real life and a bit of a demo of how they handle (nothing fancy at all though). A proper handling review is on its way too :)
Looking forward to the relaunch.
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I am also looking forward to your relaunch.. I like it when you get the cost down :D
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Hi Guys,
I made a short video showing what the Prism: Night playing cards look like in real life. One of the hardest things in this project was to capture what they really look like in a picture, so this video has done a good job solving that problem. The only issue is that the colors have turned out a bit dull :(
Either way, head over the the EPC facebook page to check it out! It might tempt you to pick up a sneaky brick of the Day/Night combo next Saturday :)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Elephant-Playing-Cards/296110697179310?fref=nf
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Hi Guys,
I made a short video showing what the Prism: Night playing cards look like in real life. One of the hardest things in this project was to capture what they really look like in a picture, so this video has done a good job solving that problem. The only issue is that the colors have turned out a bit dull :(
Either way, head over the the EPC facebook page to check it out! It might tempt you to pick up a sneaky brick of the Day/Night combo next Saturday :)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Elephant-Playing-Cards/296110697179310?fref=nf
The video does a good job of presenting the cards - but it needs judicious editing! Ideally, it should run between one and two minutes in length, no more. Everything you need to say about the cards can be said in that space of time - you're repeating yourself over and over and over throughout the video, saying the same things about the cards multiple times and it gets boring fast; few people will have the stamina to make it all the way to the end. (I only got halfway through!) Use a script if you must. If you have video editing software, something simple but that can allow for soundtrack replacement, you can use the existing footage, cut shorter with a few quick fade transitions or straight cuts (nothing fancy) and a new dialogue track of you reading from the script.
I also recommend (if you haven't done this already) getting a test print of the Prism Day deck before launch or at the least before hitting the goal. What looks great on the black cards might or might not look great on the white cards - you want to test it and be certain before you offer something that turns out to be disappointing (or pleasantly surprising).
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Thanks for your comments Don. I will redo the video on Saturday (the only day I'll be home during the daylight) and put that up instead of the long one. I also realise I say "shimmering" in the video.... eugh.
But just 3 days until the relaunch, I'm very excited! I've redone the project page, and would like any feedback you have before it goes live. Thanks :)
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/585926215/95589720?token=3ffea07e
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Pretty high stretch goal for the Prism: Day...can it be lowered, at least to the 27K mark?
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I'll see if I can make it $30, but remember it's in AUD, so only $23k USD
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Thanks for your comments Don. I will redo the video on Saturday (the only day I'll be home during the daylight) and put that up instead of the long one. I also realise I say "shimmering" in the video.... eugh.
But just 3 days until the relaunch, I'm very excited! I've redone the project page, and would like any feedback you have before it goes live. Thanks :)
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/585926215/95589720?token=3ffea07e
A script might sound like a silly idea, but it gives you MUCH greater control over the outcome. Scripted or not, practice several times and shoot each practice - "film" is cheap these days.
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Prism: Night relaunch is now LIVE on kickstarter! Visit the project now to get your earlybird specials, limited edition Prism: Day decks and all the awesomeness that is Prism: Night playing cards!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/585926215/prism-night-playing-cards-relaunch
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Backer number 6 :D... i thought I can be the first lol
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Why a November delivery?
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Why a November delivery?
1) wide margin for error.
2) LPCC has been VERY busy of late...
3) November's not that far away. This project doesn't close for another 34 days, near the end of July. That leaves four months from completion of project to printing and fulfillment.
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This is going to be an interesting cool deck. I definitely am excited. Just pledged a full brick. I hope Prism Day gets unlocked.
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Thanks guys!
Yes, the delivery date is conservative. I have been talking with Lawrence from LPCC and they are quite busy, and have a decent lead time for physical proofs and production. If the campaign funds to a reasonable level I will start the physical proofing process early, but November is a safe date. You'll have them by Christmas for gifts!
And over $7k in 12 hours! This is unbelievable! Thanks everyone, and please share the project around so we can get across the line!
Thanks!
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A bit of advice for the next launch: fewer, less confusing tiers! If you're adding a second deck as a stretch goal, DON'T mention it in the rewards until it becomes a reality! Make it an add-on to existing tiers and make a few tiers with the new deck alone. What you have now is a confusing mess.
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I've just got myself in for an early bird half-brick.
I'm always up for supporting projects which either (1) try something totally new and innovative, or (2) try and raise the bar for quality on an existing technology. Everything about this looks really promising, and the colours used are very nice indeed.
I will be looking forward to comparing these with the output from MPC, because they seem really proud of introducing raised gloss on playing cards.
I never backed the project the first time purely because the funding goal was too high... and so I honestly didn't think it was going to fund, even though it was a pretty cool project. This time round though, the funding goal looks a lot more attainable... and so I'm in brother :D
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Thanks!
191 supporters, $9,365 and 62% funded in the first weekend - I can't believe it's going so hard!
Don't forget to pick up an uncut sheet - these things will be a work of beauty :)
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Hi Guys,
Victor Jose has kindly done a prototype deck review - check it out on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txXxxR3OIA0
One of the most common questions people have for me is "how does it handle?" Victor is much better at the card handling than I am, so you can see how it performs in his far-more-capable hands. Have a look :)
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We are FUNDED! Thank you to all the great supporters!
There is still 21 days left to get in on the action. Make sure to check out our awesome posters (just unlocked), and for you backers, there is a secret stretch goal which has just been released :)
Head over to the project page and check it out!
Thanks
Ben
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Just broke through the $20k stretch goal!
It looks like at this rate we will unlock the Prism: Day deck as well, make sure to head over there now to reserve your copies. The 'Day' reward tiers are fast running out!
Thanks everyone for your support, and look forward to revealing the mystery stretch goal :)
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/585926215/prism-night-playing-cards-relaunch/description
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It's the last 3 days of the incredible Prism: Night campaign! If you haven't already backed it, you should get in now :) I am so excited and appreciative of all our supporters who have backed this debut campaign - I can hardly believe that we have 450 backers the first time out! Just incredible :)
If you are on the fence, have a look at all the awesome stretch goals we've unlocked! Really cool!
Thanks again for everyone who has supported us, and please get behind us in our last few days of pushing :D
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There is just 15 hours left in the Prism: Night campaign - make sure you go check it out if you haven't backed it yet!
goo.gl/iaucvZ
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Physical proofs have arrived from LPCC!
Check out the latest update for a comparison of MPC's gloss layer with LPCC's (world first) rainbow gloss ink, with lots and lots of photos:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/585926215/prism-night-playing-cards-relaunch/posts/1389262
The Prism is on it's way!!
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Hi Everyone,
The Prism cards are well into production so we're having an Early Christmas Sale! Pick up your Christmas presents for 25% off at the EPC store:
http://www.elephantplayingcards.com.
Just use promo code: 'xmas25' for 25% off everything! That includes decks, uncuts, promo's and posters :)
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Hi Everyone,
The Prism cards are well into production so we're having an Early Christmas Sale! Pick up your Christmas presents for 25% off at the EPC store:
http://www.elephantplayingcards.com.
Just use promo code: 'xmas25' for 25% off everything! That includes decks, uncuts, promo's and posters :)
You should post this in the Sales and Promos topic as well. It's a sticky topic in the Pasteboard Bazaar.