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Title: Interesting find - Bicycle 888 Bridge by International PCC
Post by: Mike Ratledge on January 20, 2015, 01:54:21 PM
A friend came across this yesterday, and I can't find much about it.

"V" date code, which is not in the table, but falls in the range, since there is a (C} 1932. It's an art deco with multicolor Joker:

Bridge deck, I don't find in Hochmans?
Title: Re: Interesting find - Bicycle 888 Bridge by International PCC
Post by: Lee Asher on January 20, 2015, 03:17:10 PM
Nice find Mike!
Title: Re: Interesting find - Bicycle 888 Bridge by International PCC
Post by: Don Boyer on January 21, 2015, 03:00:04 AM
A friend came across this yesterday, and I can't find much about it.

"V" date code, which is not in the table, but falls in the range, since there is a (C} 1932. It's an art deco with multicolor Joker:

Bridge deck, I don't find in Hochmans?

The copyright date isn't necessarily going to help.  For Kem decks, for instance, the aces all have a copyright date of 1935, while the replacement order cards all say either 1940 (not as common) or 1947 (very common) - the dates never change, so this year's deck and a fifty-year-old deck will have the same copyright dates.  That could be similar in this case.

The use of the letter V in the AoS code could simply have to do with the deck being made by International PCC in Canada rather than Cincinnati - decks were made in Canada for a number of years before all manufacturing was moved to Cincinnati and IPCC became the Canadian marketing arm of USPC, no longer a manufacturer.

Does Hochman cover Canadian playing cards as well as American?
Title: Re: Interesting find - Bicycle 888 Bridge by International PCC
Post by: andrew daugherty on January 21, 2015, 10:03:17 AM
Use the bridge scoring table as a clue. The numbers were revised again effective in 1935, so this could narrow your date. The art deco design also puts this in early 30s.  I have a similar deck and estimated it as early 30s. The multicolor joker was a rarity for USPC back then and is the model for coloring the Bicycle joker in current issues.

Does your deck have colored edges?

Nice find all around. 

Title: Re: Interesting find - Bicycle 888 Bridge by International PCC
Post by: Mike Ratledge on January 21, 2015, 10:31:19 AM
Does your deck have colored edges?
Yep, it does have colored edges, and looks exactly like the USPCC-branded Bridge 888 decks I have found online over the past two days, except it's branded "International" and the AoS appears to be different.
Title: Re: Interesting find - Bicycle 888 Bridge by International PCC
Post by: 52plusjoker on January 21, 2015, 12:37:26 PM
Hochman does cover Cdn. This is a generic Ace used by IPC for many brands. Bicycle Bridge is in US Hochman chapter. Early 1930's is correct. Some of these had red or green colored edges.
Title: Re: Interesting find - Bicycle 888 Bridge by International PCC
Post by: Mike Ratledge on January 21, 2015, 01:42:46 PM
Yes, six colors all together.  I found this on Cypressfilms.com

(with a note that the rarest was the six deck set.)

I'm using my new e-book format, maybe just in the wrong quarter of the book?
Title: Re: Interesting find - Bicycle 888 Bridge by International PCC
Post by: 52plusjoker on January 21, 2015, 02:47:25 PM
Am in Ireland with poor access. Not sure if in Part II Canadian chapter.
Title: Re: Interesting find - Bicycle 888 Bridge by International PCC
Post by: 52plusjoker on January 21, 2015, 02:52:47 PM
It is Chapter 16 CDN15a with the generic Ace rather than  the Bicycle Ace. Another variation!
Title: Re: Interesting find - Bicycle 888 Bridge by International PCC
Post by: Mike Ratledge on January 21, 2015, 03:36:44 PM
It is Chapter 16 CDN15a with the generic Ace rather than  the Bicycle Ace. Another variation!
Excellent!  Good eyes, I always recognize when something is "different".
Title: Re: Interesting find - Bicycle 888 Bridge by International PCC
Post by: skinny on May 15, 2015, 08:11:00 PM
I'll throw a couple more in here. One of the decks is blue, the other red. Both are monogrammed. The jokers are off by one digit (U147 and U148 I think). I have one IPCC ace and one generic ace. Kinda odd. Both have the multicolor Joker.

Both boxes have color (red and blue) on the lower half, black on top. Notice also the Congress labels.

Title: Re: Interesting find - Bicycle 888 Bridge by International PCC
Post by: Don Boyer on May 15, 2015, 11:35:17 PM
Another reminder of just how much better we used to make things, and not just playing cards...  :))