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Title: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Anthony on November 18, 2014, 03:15:40 PM
In case you missed it  ;)

http://www.kardify.com/2014/11/exclusive-sneak-peak-zen-and-black.html (http://www.kardify.com/2014/11/exclusive-sneak-peak-zen-and-black.html)
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Card Player on November 19, 2014, 07:44:51 PM
Nice Job Anthony.

The Premium Brick Box Set looks like a 2014 Black Friday favorite. I'll have this on my calendar for sure.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: HolyJJ on November 19, 2014, 09:32:22 PM
Anything from CARC/EPCC never lacks in quality... and so I'm definitely interested.

The Classic Twins turned out incredible -- in my opinion, beats any USPCC deck in every single way. The ZEN looks like it'll continue the winning spree for CARC/EPCC. I do like the look of it.

How many of the ZEN decks I buy will depend on one thing... what stock/finish does the deck have -- is it the master finish or the classic finish?

I don't have any expectations at all from Ellusionist, T11, or D&D... and so on black friday, I'll be looking out for CARC's offerings (and also Legends, if they do something for black Friday).
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Anthony on November 19, 2014, 09:45:39 PM
Anything from CARC/EPCC never lacks in quality... and so I'm definitely interested.

The Classic Twins turned out incredible -- in my opinion, beats any USPCC deck in every single way. The ZEN looks like it'll continue the winning spree for CARC/EPCC. I do like the look of it.

How many of the ZEN decks I buy will depend on one thing... what stock/finish does the deck have -- is it the master finish or the classic finish?

I don't have any expectations at all from Ellusionist, T11, or D&D... and so on black friday, I'll be looking out for CARC's offerings (and also Legends, if they do something for black Friday).

HolyJJ, both decks have the Master Finish  ;)
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Fess on November 20, 2014, 04:32:30 AM
Looking forward to this deck. I'll definitely participate in the savings on black friday for these. ;D
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Nurul on November 20, 2014, 03:57:42 PM
I, too, am looking forward to these.

Also, not expecting much from the "big boys". Besides, CARC seems to always trump the others when it comes to sales
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: BiggerDee on November 20, 2014, 04:04:04 PM
Not intending to side-track, but Rarebit copper will be out on Black Friday from T11.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Nurul on November 20, 2014, 04:16:23 PM
Not intending to side-track, but Rarebit copper will be out on Black Friday from T11.

That's nice, however, there's already a topic on that.
Or do U mean, it's something worth getting during the Black Friday sales?
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Card Player on November 20, 2014, 04:23:10 PM
Not intending to side-track, but Rarebit copper will be out on Black Friday from T11.

Nothing personal. That's exactly what you intended to do, sidetrack.

I certainly don't think theory11 needs your help promoting their products on someone else's thread.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Mrmagic on November 20, 2014, 09:50:37 PM
In the conversation parlour I believe there is a thread dedicated to all sales. And Card player, calm down. He was simply mentioning another black friday deal.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: PurpleIce on November 20, 2014, 10:20:34 PM
Not intending to side-track, but Rarebit copper will be out on Black Friday from T11.

Nothing personal. That's exactly what you intended to do, sidetrack.

I certainly don't think theory11 needs your help promoting their products on someone else's thread.

I think he is simply mentioning it because Nurul said nothing to expect from the "bigboys". I don't really think he was promoting anything, rather just a reminder. Tone down your hatred for the "big boys" and chill a little.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Rob Wright on November 20, 2014, 10:37:29 PM
...........and back on topic!

This black Zen deck is going to look great next to my red proto Zen deck.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Don Boyer on November 21, 2014, 12:06:26 AM
In the conversation parlour I believe there is a thread dedicated to all sales. And Card player, calm down. He was simply mentioning another black friday deal.

The Holiday Topic 2014: New Products, Deals, Contests & Giveaways (http://www.playingcardforum.com/index.php?topic=7486.0)

Send us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to buy decks cheap...  :))
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Card Player on November 21, 2014, 05:51:53 AM
Not intending to side-track, but Rarebit copper will be out on Black Friday from T11.

Nothing personal. That's exactly what you intended to do, sidetrack.

I certainly don't think theory11 needs your help promoting their products on someone else's thread.

I think he is simply mentioning it because Nurul said nothing to expect from the "bigboys". I don't really think he was promoting anything, rather just a reminder. Tone down your hatred for the "big boys" and chill a little.

What hatred do I have?

You should go to the Rarebit thread and see what I wrote before you make accusations.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: PurpleIce on November 21, 2014, 10:23:13 AM
Nothing personal. That's exactly what you intended to do, sidetrack.

I certainly don't think theory11 needs your help promoting their products on someone else's thread.

I just can't sense any pinch of friendliness from these lines alone. Probably not hatred but somewhere between the lines of hostility & animosity maybe?

I guess it's my bad causing the both of us to sidetrack more than BiggerDee did, and you did say something nice for a rarebit deck i guess?
If it helps, it's nothing personal either.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: BiggerDee on November 21, 2014, 11:21:50 AM
PurpleIce is correct, I only mentioned it in response to the nothing else from the big boys on Black Friday comment which, as it was, was unrelated to the Zen deck as well. That's why I kept it short and sweet. Although technically a sidetrack, I kept it as a mention and didn't go into a diatribe as to what all was going to be released from the big boys that day or the details. In the future, I can just stay silent and allow new members to jump in and write an essay.

My apologies to Zen and CARC for this being unnecessarily drug out. I'll take my vote down from CardPlayer and move along...and for the record, if you say "No offense" before a statement, it's usually going to be offending.

Back to the discussion of their beautiful deck...
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Card Player on November 21, 2014, 11:34:13 AM
Quote
In the future, I can just stay silent and allow new members to jump in and write an essay.

That's most likely what was meant. I agree. I made no connection with the response I commented on and the original post. Others had posted after and no quote was used connecting the two.

I did not see any new member involved in this. 300 - 800 posts is not new to me. Which is why I might have been firm in how I responded to it. I'm usually more considerate with new member posts.

I good with moving on.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Fess on November 21, 2014, 12:10:31 PM
Looking like black friday will have lots of fun stuff from big bois and almost everyone else. These Zen are still right there on the top of my list. I'm thinking I need to pull a trade and get the Proto Zens. I had a deck for about two weeks but we needed a trophy so I tossed it up for a tourny win. Not the first time my generosity has come back to bite me haha.

Three cheers for my soon to be deceased wallet!  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: ozfan30 on November 21, 2014, 02:23:46 PM
Other info regarding CARC black Friday deals, Great deal on the CF Card clip, I already have two but might pick up another one.
(Sale prices exclude shipping unless specified.)
Classic Black: $7.48/deck!
Egyptian Legends - Black: $4.48/deck!
Solid Carbon Card Clip: $49.50 postpaid in the US!
Gibecière No. 10: Just $19.98!
EPCC Pack & Clip Jackets: $2.50 each or as low  as $1.50 with purchase of 10!
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Card Player on November 22, 2014, 11:11:48 AM
Other info regarding CARC black Friday deals, Great deal on the CF Card clip, I already have two but might pick up another one.
(Sale prices exclude shipping unless specified.)
Classic Black: $7.48/deck!
Egyptian Legends - Black: $4.48/deck!
Solid Carbon Card Clip: $49.50 postpaid in the US!
Gibecière No. 10: Just $19.98!
EPCC Pack & Clip Jackets: $2.50 each or as low  as $1.50 with purchase of 10!

@William Kalush (hopefully you read this or someone passes the word on to you)

I have a suggestion to help make the "EPCC Zen decks packed in our new Luxury Magnetic Brick Box $89.99" more of a great deal and help CARC sell more of this particular package. Mr. Kalush should sign the top of the Brick Box to the left or Right of the logo. It would make a nice collectors piece for Black Friday. The Brick Box looks like its using Gold Foil. Might I suggest using a gold sharpie matching the foil to sign them. You can give customers two options, a signed or unsigned brick box for the same price of $89.99. Just a suggestion.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Don Boyer on November 22, 2014, 12:08:47 PM
Other info regarding CARC black Friday deals, Great deal on the CF Card clip, I already have two but might pick up another one.
(Sale prices exclude shipping unless specified.)
Classic Black: $7.48/deck!
Egyptian Legends - Black: $4.48/deck!
Solid Carbon Card Clip: $49.50 postpaid in the US!
Gibecière No. 10: Just $19.98!
EPCC Pack & Clip Jackets: $2.50 each or as low  as $1.50 with purchase of 10!

@William Kalush (hopefully you read this or someone passes the word on to you)

I have a suggestion to help make the "EPCC Zen decks packed in our new Luxury Magnetic Brick Box $89.99" more of a great deal and help CARC sell more of this particular package. Mr. Kalush should sign the top of the Brick Box to the left or Right of the logo. It would make a nice collectors piece for Black Friday. The Brick Box looks like its using Gold Foil. Might I suggest using a gold sharpie matching the foil to sign them. You can give customers two options, a signed or unsigned brick box for the same price of $89.99. Just a suggestion.

So, when Santa comes to your house to fill the stockings, do you offer suggestions about how to make the gifts more appealing with color-coded ribbons and autographs?

If you're serious about making such a suggestion (and I really hope you aren't!) you'd do better to contact CARC at their website.  Bill as an individual is a member here, but CARC doesn't have an official presence on this forum.  It's like asking a question in an empty echo chamber and expecting an answer...
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Card Player on November 22, 2014, 12:43:29 PM
Other info regarding CARC black Friday deals, Great deal on the CF Card clip, I already have two but might pick up another one.
(Sale prices exclude shipping unless specified.)
Classic Black: $7.48/deck!
Egyptian Legends - Black: $4.48/deck!
Solid Carbon Card Clip: $49.50 postpaid in the US!
Gibecière No. 10: Just $19.98!
EPCC Pack & Clip Jackets: $2.50 each or as low  as $1.50 with purchase of 10!

@William Kalush (hopefully you read this or someone passes the word on to you)

I have a suggestion to help make the "EPCC Zen decks packed in our new Luxury Magnetic Brick Box $89.99" more of a great deal and help CARC sell more of this particular package. Mr. Kalush should sign the top of the Brick Box to the left or Right of the logo. It would make a nice collectors piece for Black Friday. The Brick Box looks like its using Gold Foil. Might I suggest using a gold sharpie matching the foil to sign them. You can give customers two options, a signed or unsigned brick box for the same price of $89.99. Just a suggestion.

So, when Santa comes to your house to fill the stockings, do you offer suggestions about how to make the gifts more appealing with color-coded ribbons and autographs?

If you're serious about making such a suggestion (and I really hope you aren't!) you'd do better to contact CARC at their website.  Bill as an individual is a member here, but CARC doesn't have an official presence on this forum.  It's like asking a question in an empty echo chamber and expecting an answer...

You make it sound like someone will get insulted? That obviously is not my intention.

My brother-in-law and I fill the stockings in our family. I don't push the idea of Santa Claus on children. I paid for the gifts, why should I let a hoax take the credit. Personally, I find it very strange to make a child sit on an old man's lap they don't know. Christmas is about Christ and I give gifts to celebrate "the gift" of Christ's birth. The children will not miss Santa Claus, I promise you.

I knew you would say this. You always say this when I make suggestions on the forum instead of emailing someone directly. The reason I write it here is for public opinion. Maybe others think its a nice idea or maybe not. Maybe "someone" reading would like to know what others think also. If its not something CARC has an interest in doing, they can always pretend they never saw it here. No one is obligated to reply to an email and I don't have to read a politically correct response that basically says "not interested".  It works out for both sides just to post it.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Nurul on November 22, 2014, 01:56:38 PM
This zen deck looks so sweeeeeet.
Can't wait to get my hands on these, and such a great price too.
Hope international shipping won't b so much....
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Don Boyer on November 22, 2014, 08:24:04 PM

You make it sound like someone will get insulted? That obviously is not my intention.

My brother-in-law and I fill the stockings in our family. I don't push the idea of Santa Claus on children. I paid for the gifts, why should I let a hoax take the credit. Personally, I find it very strange to make a child sit on an old man's lap they don't know. Christmas is about Christ and I give gifts to celebrate "the gift" of Christ's birth. The children will not miss Santa Claus, I promise you.

I knew you would say this. You always say this when I make suggestions on the forum instead of emailing someone directly. The reason I write it here is for public opinion. Maybe others think its a nice idea or maybe not. Maybe "someone" reading would like to know what others think also. If its not something CARC has an interest in doing, they can always pretend they never saw it here. No one is obligated to reply to an email and I don't have to read a politically correct response that basically says "not interested".  It works out for both sides just to post it.

I suggested, in a somewhat humorous manner, that your idea - should you wish it to be taken seriously - is better if sent to the company instead of posted here.  No offense was intended - if this bothered you, I'm sorry for that.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Card Player on November 22, 2014, 09:43:53 PM

You make it sound like someone will get insulted? That obviously is not my intention.

My brother-in-law and I fill the stockings in our family. I don't push the idea of Santa Claus on children. I paid for the gifts, why should I let a hoax take the credit. Personally, I find it very strange to make a child sit on an old man's lap they don't know. Christmas is about Christ and I give gifts to celebrate "the gift" of Christ's birth. The children will not miss Santa Claus, I promise you.

I knew you would say this. You always say this when I make suggestions on the forum instead of emailing someone directly. The reason I write it here is for public opinion. Maybe others think its a nice idea or maybe not. Maybe "someone" reading would like to know what others think also. If its not something CARC has an interest in doing, they can always pretend they never saw it here. No one is obligated to reply to an email and I don't have to read a politically correct response that basically says "not interested".  It works out for both sides just to post it.

I suggested, in a somewhat humorous manner, that your idea - should you wish it to be taken seriously - is better if sent to the company instead of posted here.  No offense was intended - if this bothered you, I'm sorry for that.

Don

I take no offense to anything on this forum. I don't really care about who takes me seriously here as "card player". I don't know where in what I wrote you thought I was bothered?

Zen Zen Zen...
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Don Boyer on November 23, 2014, 12:31:47 AM

Don

I take no offense to anything on this forum. I don't really care about who takes me seriously here as "card player". I don't know where in what I wrote you thought I was bothered?

Zen Zen Zen...

I'm just covering my bases, in case I did somehow offend.  I'm glad to hear that I didn't.

I'll take exchanges like these over flame wars any day of the week and twice on Sundays.  :))
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: HandSkillz on November 24, 2014, 04:59:34 PM
Of course my first post in months and months is off-topic, but this topic reminded me of last year when there was a topic for all Black Friday/Holiday deals.  Does one exist yet for 2014 holiday season?

Ah, good to be back :)
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Fess on November 24, 2014, 05:25:17 PM
Of course my first post in months and months is off-topic, but this topic reminded me of last year when there was a topic for all Black Friday/Holiday deals.  Does one exist yet for 2014 holiday season?

Ah, good to be back :)

Holiday deals 2014 (http://www.playingcardforum.com/index.php?topic=7486.0)
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Card Player on November 24, 2014, 05:25:35 PM
Of course my first post in months and months is off-topic, but this topic reminded me of last year when there was a topic for all Black Friday/Holiday deals.  Does one exist yet for 2014 holiday season?

Ah, good to be back :)

http://www.playingcardforum.com/index.php?topic=7486.0 (http://www.playingcardforum.com/index.php?topic=7486.0)


Yes we have the topic. I don't know why its tacked to the conversation parlor. It should be tacked to the playing card plethora. I know the holiday sales are more then playing cards.  This is a playing card forum after all and the topic is only temporary.


Is the forum pushing to have topics in other subjects to get more people of interest? I understand we have magicians here, but at the end of the day this is a playing card forum and magicians have their own mainstream forums. The 2013 topic was here (playing card plethora) last year.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Fess on November 24, 2014, 05:26:50 PM
Yea it is difficult to find. I don't know why it's there either.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Fess on November 24, 2014, 07:38:55 PM
Back on topic. These shots of the Royal Zen back really shows off the foil on the back. I think they look very nice and the tuck does look sharp. Suits the deck well in my humble opinion.

Royal Zen
(http://shop.conjuringarts.org/store/pc/catalog/BlZen7-det.jpg)
(http://shop.conjuringarts.org/store/pc/catalog/BlZen14-det.jpg)

Zen Black
(http://shop.conjuringarts.org/store/pc/catalog/BlZen26-det.jpg)

I do find it interesting that they've decided to use red foil on the Zen back tuck. While it matches the Luxury Brick Box it seems a little odd to use the bright red for the tuck of a deck that features no red on the back at all. That seem strange to anyone else? Why not go pantone white instead, has foil really become so absolutely utterly important on a tuck that deck colors don't even matter anymore? Anyway, I find it strange red foil on the tuck of Zen Black.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: 10ofclubs on November 24, 2014, 08:49:47 PM
I agree Fes. I think the red looks a little out of place. I think I'd prefer white or maybe silver.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Card Player on November 24, 2014, 09:11:26 PM
I do find it interesting that they've decided to use red foil on the Zen back tuck. While it matches the Luxury Brick Box it seems a little odd to use the bright red for the tuck of a deck that features no red on the back at all. That seem strange to anyone else? Why not go pantone white instead, has foil really become so absolutely utterly important on a tuck that deck colors don't even matter anymore? Anyway, I find it strange red foil on the tuck of Zen Black.

I'm not sure if the RED foil of the Zen standard tuck is the same foil color used on the Luxury Brick Box. The Luxury Brick Box looks more GOLD foil to me. They already created the RED back design using a RED tuck with GUN METAL foil, its not like a BLACK tuck with RED foil would ever be used again for anything else Zen.

I agree with you, its unconventional.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Mrmagic on November 25, 2014, 12:43:35 AM
Anyone else thinking the side flap might become common again? I am seeing it with a lot of the higher quality decks.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Don Boyer on November 25, 2014, 01:32:33 AM
Of course my first post in months and months is off-topic, but this topic reminded me of last year when there was a topic for all Black Friday/Holiday deals.  Does one exist yet for 2014 holiday season?

Ah, good to be back :)

Good to have you back!

http://www.playingcardforum.com/index.php?topic=7486.0 (http://www.playingcardforum.com/index.php?topic=7486.0)


Yes we have the topic. I don't know why its tacked to the conversation parlor. It should be tacked to the playing card plethora. I know the holiday sales are more then playing cards.  This is a playing card forum after all and the topic is only temporary.


Is the forum pushing to have topics in other subjects to get more people of interest? I understand we have magicians here, but at the end of the day this is a playing card forum and magicians have their own mainstream forums. The 2013 topic was here (playing card plethora) last year.

I put it in the Conversation Parlor because it crosses categories - many of the specials being offered cover magic equipment as well as playing cards.  I try as much as possible to reserve the Plethora for when we're talking about specific deck releases and directly deck-related information.  The topics for contests and convention notices are also in the Parlor.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Fess on November 25, 2014, 01:44:18 AM

http://www.playingcardforum.com/index.php?topic=7486.0 (http://www.playingcardforum.com/index.php?topic=7486.0)


Yes we have the topic. I don't know why its tacked to the conversation parlor. It should be tacked to the playing card plethora. I know the holiday sales are more then playing cards.  This is a playing card forum after all and the topic is only temporary.


Is the forum pushing to have topics in other subjects to get more people of interest? I understand we have magicians here, but at the end of the day this is a playing card forum and magicians have their own mainstream forums. The 2013 topic was here (playing card plethora) last year.

I put it in the Conversation Parlor because it crosses categories - many of the specials being offered cover magic equipment as well as playing cards.  I try as much as possible to reserve the Plethora for when we're talking about specific deck releases and directly deck-related information.  The topics for contests and convention notices are also in the Parlor.

It's only had 101 views over there Don. People don't even know it exists haha. A great deal is a great deal, everyone should be able to see it easily. There seems to be a lot of action where people talk about decks. Why not put it where the action is and people can see it? Most of the deals center around Decks. Even so DvD's about card tricks, Books about decks and tricks, we all like those things too.  ;)
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Don Boyer on November 25, 2014, 02:03:06 AM

http://www.playingcardforum.com/index.php?topic=7486.0 (http://www.playingcardforum.com/index.php?topic=7486.0)


Yes we have the topic. I don't know why its tacked to the conversation parlor. It should be tacked to the playing card plethora. I know the holiday sales are more then playing cards.  This is a playing card forum after all and the topic is only temporary.


Is the forum pushing to have topics in other subjects to get more people of interest? I understand we have magicians here, but at the end of the day this is a playing card forum and magicians have their own mainstream forums. The 2013 topic was here (playing card plethora) last year.

I put it in the Conversation Parlor because it crosses categories - many of the specials being offered cover magic equipment as well as playing cards.  I try as much as possible to reserve the Plethora for when we're talking about specific deck releases and directly deck-related information.  The topics for contests and convention notices are also in the Parlor.

It's only had 101 views over there Don. People don't even know it exists haha. A great deal is a great deal, everyone should be able to see it easily. There seems to be a lot of action where people talk about decks. Why not put it where the action is and people can see it? Most of the deals center around Decks. Even so DvD's about card tricks, Books about decks and tricks, we all like those things too.  ;)

You have a valid point.  I just moved it.  I'll move it back post-season.
Title: Re: ZEN Exclusive and some Black Friday info from CARC
Post by: Card Player on November 25, 2014, 03:26:35 PM
Anyone else thinking the side flap might become common again? I am seeing it with a lot of the higher quality decks.

Common for EPCC maybe (Exquisite, TBC NOC v3, Zen, Encarded Signature Series).

Reflecting on my acquisitions, the only side flap tuck deck I've purchased was D&D's Gold Private Reserve. That's not done consciously or with intention. For some unusual reason, I've avoided them. I don't know why?