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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Design & Development => Topic started by: vovkalex on October 07, 2014, 09:45:06 AM
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Hi everyone,
Here is a new deck I am working on.
New deck Sunrise is dedicated to Japan.
What's your opinion?
ladies sketch
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I like the Queen of Spades... The vibrant colors are more appealing to the eye.
Are you using the same pips as your Arcanum deck? Speaking of which, what is the status on that deck?
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Pips will be new.
This options back.
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Diggin those back options! The first one is my favorite. Have you considered making the Koi orange/reddish? It could give the back a lot of good "pop" for lack of a better word.
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back options
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Really pretty cards. Do you have a link to the other previous deck you had made before? I'd love to see it please. :)
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The art's pretty good - but I'd ditch the gray background; it's not doing your art any favors, making it look a little dingy. I'd go for a nice cream color, like the color of scroll paper, or just a simple white.
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Thank you all for your comments and suggestions.
Gray background will not. This is only the beginning of the work - a sketch.
Sweetcrabhoney18 here links to our previous deck http://www.playingcardforum.com/design-development/rate-playing-cards/?PHPSESSID=dphj62d2t2p1t2d9oak8v233f3
http://www.playingcardforum.com/index.php?topic=7166.0
It will be released in the second half of October.
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Background for the ladies. Which is better?
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Not big on the outlines or the indices in all 4 corners but I like the background color of the first picture.
EDIT: Maybe you could use the imagery from the second pic with the lighter cream color from the first.
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I like the fourth background the most, it most reflects a traditional Japanese painted scroll or sumi-e ink wash painting
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Another option. Your opinion?
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The boxes around the indices are very distracting. Maybe if you removed them and the indices in the top right and bottom left corners then you could invert the lamps into those corners. That way all of your artwork would be visible with a cleaner look. JMO
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I like the woven lines boxing in the indices, maybe not in blue, and I'm not a fan of the red border. I still feel like the fourth of the original four backgrounds is the strongest choice, I like the faded design that looks like an ink wash, it makes the background compliment the geisha more because it is subtle, instead of busting the image with a second focus. Traditional landscape images like rocky hills and trees could look great!
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I think the current design looks OK, but you need to know two things.
1) If you're target audience is in the US, ditch the extra indices. Some people fervently hate four-index decks, actively avoiding them. The added indices increase the chances that you might accidentally flash a card from your hand to your opponent.
2) Your indices on the bottom half are fine, but the ones on the top half are flipped - the "tail" of the Q is pointing in the wrong direction.
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The boxes around the indices are very distracting. Maybe if you removed them and the indices in the top right and bottom left corners then you could invert the lamps into those corners. That way all of your artwork would be visible with a cleaner look. JMO
Have to agree. Boxes around the courts are fine, but boxes around the indices just means the indices are further away from the edge. The 4 backgrounds are fine. Maybe you just made the 4 backgrounds for the 4 suits. That could also be part of your theme to tie in the non-tradictional courts...
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These are looking great!
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Looking pretty good, my only remark is how well the background detailing on the courts would shop up after printing.
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Im really loving the queen of spades!
Maybe don't have too much background to make the design pop even more
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Looking pretty good, my only remark is how well the background detailing on the courts would shop up after printing.
Im really loving the queen of spades!
Maybe don't have too much background to make the design pop even more
I wouldn't worry too much about the background. There's enough contrast in there to make them visible and it's fairly muted when compared to the vivid colors in the Queen and her regalia.
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- Nice The Queen of Spades;
- The Queen of Hearts is very similar to the Queen of Spades;
- New backgrounds are fussy;
- Backs? #2 from the first reveal of them, but with white borders;
- Agree about lines around indices.
Good luck.
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Sketch ladies. What's your opinion?
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@vovkalex - Nice card, but it has flaws. It looks like you have gone as far as you can on the top and bottom, but you can still go a little farther on the right and left. You need to get the indices as close as possible to the edge. You also need a suit indicator. It going to be hard to distinguish the card at a distance especially if you are using non-tradictional courts. Be careful, you need probably 51% black for your custom pip spade. It looks like your custom pip is probably 40% black.
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Sketch ladies. What's your opinion?
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It's an improvement but you need to do something about the indices. Placement is good, but they're black and white printed on a background that's also black and white. Wipe off that background under the index and you should have a better looking card. Think of using an alternate font, as well - that "faux Oriental" font is kind of passe and borderline racist, I would think - anything elegant, narrow and sans serif would work with the style as well as being more clear and readable. It's also worth considering to place a suit symbol next to the lady's head, like you would see on a traditional court card. In fact, you should use a plainer spade in the index and save the fancy spade for the body of the card.
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It's an improvement but you need to do something about the indices. Placement is good, but they're black and white printed on a background that's also black and white. Wipe off that background under the index and you should have a better looking card. Think of using an alternate font, as well - that "faux Oriental" font is kind of passe and borderline racist, I would think - anything elegant, narrow and sans serif would work with the style as well as being more clear and readable. It's also worth considering to place a suit symbol next to the lady's head, like you would see on a traditional court card. In fact, you should use a plainer spade in the index and save the fancy spade for the body of the card.
Thank you Don. Very valuable advice.
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@vovkalex
IMHO: Nice Pisces but remove them from the borders. Playing cards and some collage are different things.
The lady itself is really nice. Don't spoil the Queen of Spades with unnecessary elements.
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That queen is absolutely stunningly beautiful. Well Done!!!
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back of playing card
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That's some nice artwork! Would love to see a full color version. :D
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These look pretty cool, I also would like to see full color on the cards.
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Loving the Samurai backs!!
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I think Gold and Black would look good on the Samurai. Maybe a dab of other colors like silver/grey. The red and blue look too plain to me. JMO
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I think Gold and Black would look good on the Samurai. Maybe a dab of other colors like silver/grey. The red and blue look too plain to me. JMO
I, on the other hand, like the monochrome style of the deck in red and blue. It hearkens back to the old-school decks of the early 20th century, and I really like a white, borderless design like this - very elegant and clean. I looks in no small part like one of my favorite decks, Bicycle Limited Edition #1.
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@vovkalex - You need to throw something in the top left corner of your back of card. Anything you want. Doesn't matter what color. You have to much white negative space there....
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I agree with Sprouts, that is a lot of negative space in prime location.
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@vovkalex - You need to throw something in the top left corner of your back of card. Anything you want. Doesn't matter what color. You have to much white negative space there....
I agree with Sprouts, that is a lot of negative space in prime location.
I actually LIKE that it has an empty corner like that. Corners are majorly important to flourishers, but shouldn't be an issue to anyone else. In fact, for poker, they're awesome as they are - there's no place to hide any kind of marks or indicators. You don't see that often in deck design and I feel it makes this deck distinctive in a good way.
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I was going to bring up the point Don did. Great for card players, and the back in cool enough with out anything extra.