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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Playing Card Plethora => Topic started by: MrMollusk on August 22, 2014, 08:53:05 PM
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The last photo has the GH deck to the left and a standard Bike deck on the right. It's going to be released in a box set today.
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Hmmm... the last photo shows the cards to have a "furry" edges due to horrible cutting. Therefore, definitely a USPCC deck.
It'll be a great collectors set, for the DVDs if nothing. As for the cards, I'll pass on them even when they show up on eBay.
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Classic Clip: Gatsby Edition
by Joe Porper
This limited edition Classic Clip, plated in gold, was produced to commemorate the release of the Hollingworth Collection. Each clip comes complete with one Hollingworth Deck.
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Back looks simple and eloquent. I see he is going with a single element back with green line as his corner badge. Would be better if he went to the last green border by the cut boarder with his green line. Right now it's going green and slices into the yellow. Oh well....
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Hmmm... the last photo shows the cards to have a "furry" edges due to horrible cutting. Therefore, definitely a USPCC deck.
It'll be a great collectors set, for the DVDs if nothing. As for the cards, I'll pass on them even when they show up on eBay.
I think the furry-edged was a pack of standard Bikes. The GH deck, I think, was the taller/thicker stack.
I think the large monogram on the back would have been better served with a solid color, but that's a minor quibble. I'm guessing that since he's a magician, the faces will be either bog-standard or damn close to it. (That's not a bad thing!)
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he went to the last green border by the cut boarder with his green line. Right now it's going green and slices into the yellow.
Brain.. Too tiny... Could you break this down for me?
It looks like the registration is off with the pattern noticeably uneven. Is this what you are talking about?
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Also, Bog standard?
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he went to the last green border by the cut boarder with his green line. Right now it's going green and slices into the yellow.
Brain.. Too tiny... Could you break this down for me?
It looks like the registration is off with the pattern noticeably uneven. Is this what you are talking about?
Now that you mention it, the left border is wider then the right border.
(Russ, that's how you spell "border", mmm'k? "Boarder" is someone who's living at your place in some form of paid arrangement...)
Also, Bog standard?
Most decks aimed at magicians or designed by them are, or close enough to it. Maybe a recolor. Maybe some custom faces on the courts (I hope not, I'm getting tired of them). But yeah, bog standard.
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The thinner deck in the picture is the Hollingworth deck. It's about eight cards thinner in comparison to a regular USPCC deck.
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Ah, so this is the mysterious deck they had when they were advertising the plank! Anyone remember this image? it was from their December holiday gift guide email.
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Did anyone else watch the video on the site and notice that the "yellow" parts of the back design are actually a bit shiny - like gold instead of yellow? Not obvious in the pictures, but seems like a cool touch... If I could buy a couple of the decks, I probably would...
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I personally think its a sweet looking deck. Something considerably clean and classic.
The whole packaging looks great too....but for a card collector...gotta pass. Unless someone wants to sell me just the deck, or buy the DVDs from me.
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Hello,
i have seen this deck and read that they wanted to make a thinner deck because Guy Hollingworth liked to play with thin Stud playing cards.
I thought Stud were just Bicycle like cards, but they seem to be quite different.
And that made me wonder how they could get thinner cards nowadays with USPCC ?
I thought all the new cards from USPCC were always using the most expensive finish and card stock. But not always the thinner one ? Is it a choice to have a high quality stock more or less thin ?
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And they are all gone :( I wanted that clip.... :-[
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Hello,
i have seen this deck and read that they wanted to make a thinner deck because Guy Hollingworth liked to play with thin Stud playing cards.
I thought Stud were just Bicycle like cards, but they seem to be quite different.
And that made me wonder how they could get thinner cards nowadays with USPCC ?
I thought all the new cards from USPCC were always using the most expensive finish and card stock. But not always the thinner one ? Is it a choice to have a high quality stock more or less thin ?
There are thickness variations not just between stocks but in some cases even from deck to deck in the same stock. Thick or thin, the cost of the stock is the same - a pair of paper rolls glued together can make thick or thin stock, as the manufacturer sees fit.
The finish options available cost the same - included in the cost of making the deck. The default is Magic Finish for custom decks.
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There are thickness variations not just between stocks but in some cases even from deck to deck in the same stock. Thick or thin, the cost of the stock is the same - a pair of paper rolls glued together can make thick or thin stock, as the manufacturer sees fit.
The finish options available cost the same - included in the cost of making the deck. The default is Magic Finish for custom decks.
Thanks for your answer Don
But how can D&D say they have worked with USPCC to make a thin deck ? is it only commercial sentence or do you think they can really have USPC use a particular stock to have a thin deck ?
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There are thickness variations not just between stocks but in some cases even from deck to deck in the same stock. Thick or thin, the cost of the stock is the same - a pair of paper rolls glued together can make thick or thin stock, as the manufacturer sees fit.
The finish options available cost the same - included in the cost of making the deck. The default is Magic Finish for custom decks.
Thanks for your answer Don
But how can D&D say they have worked with USPCC to make a thin deck ? is it only commercial sentence or do you think they can really have USPC use a particular stock to have a thin deck ?
It's entirely possible that they did indeed get the stock thinner. It's only a matter of the amount of pressure applied between the rollers when the pasteboard is created. The actual paper used is the same. Do a search for videos by the US Playing Card Co. on YouTube and you'll find one that shows how cards are made, start to finish. The first step is to take two giant rolls of paper and glue them together in layers with a graphite-infused glue to create the pasteboard on which playing cards are printed. The graphite keeps the cards opaque even in front of a strong light source.
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It's entirely possible that they did indeed get the stock thinner. It's only a matter of the amount of pressure applied between the rollers when the pasteboard is created. The actual paper used is the same. Do a search for videos by the US Playing Card Co. on YouTube and you'll find one that shows how cards are made, start to finish. The first step is to take two giant rolls of paper and glue them together in layers with a graphite-infused glue to create the pasteboard on which playing cards are printed. The graphite keeps the cards opaque even in front of a strong light source.
Thanks Don, it's really interesting to have those technical details.
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Color varient on the horizont. Looks like they are teasing a red version, which I am pretty excited about, I really like D&D's Guy Hollingworths and think red will be a really great color for it.
From their Instagram:
bucktwins: "The beloved Guy Hollingworth #playingcards. Reworked in an all new colorway and featuring the same ultra-thin stock. Coming soon."
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Reds went live at 0800PDT, $9.95/deck, discount at 6 and at 12
Shipping with a free Emerald Hollingworth deck when you purchase a brick or more.
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I really love this pack of playing cards 👍🏻👍🏽👍🏿
The only thing I would change (if I could) is the border. At the moment there isn't one as you know. I would add a thin white strip, just to make a few more magic tricks possible. However, I completely love the awesome tuck box!
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Just got mine and really love the red, more than I like the green and gold of the original. Even though the courts aren't custom, the metalic inks really make them pop. I hadn't opened my Emerald version because I only have one, but I am really liking this thinner pressed stock, It isn't springing as nicely as I would like, but other than that it handles really nicely, and is so smooth on spreads and fans... I am assuming these are still USPCC? Overall one of my favorite decks so far this year, and I am biased against DD for the most part.
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I got mine as well. Very nice. They are USPCC.
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I really love this pack of playing cards 👍🏻👍🏽👍🏿
The only thing I would change (if I could) is the border. At the moment there isn't one as you know. I would add a thin white strip, just to make a few more magic tricks possible. However, I completely love the awesome tuck box!
USPC has difficulty making thin, white borders. Their die cutting accuracy is a little too low, so they're more prone to being cut off-center - and with thin borders, even a tiny amount off-center becomes glaringly obvious. Borderless was the way to go with that design.
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Does anone know when they were actually produced? I have a feeling, Dan and Dave have been holding onto these decks for a while.
I ended up purchasing 3 bricks of each and although the emerald edition of the Hollingworth Monogram Deck is very nice, the burgundy edition is stunning.
I've always loved those really deep, blood red, 'burgundy', crimson and scarlet colours that are sometimes used. They're far more appealing than the standard red, IMHO, although I do realise they have their place.
A picture I took, recently: -
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Does anyone know when they were actually produced? I have a feeling, Dan and Dave have been holding onto these decks for a while.
Have you tried asking Hollingsworth?
They probably were made a while back - but without access to USPC records or D&D records, Hollingsworth's the only one who could tell you. Good chance they were made solely for him and he was using them for performances, then eventually let them go to the public for sale - David Blaine does the same thing with his designs.
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Does anyone know when they were actually produced? I have a feeling, Dan and Dave have been holding onto these decks for a while.
Have you tried asking Hollingsworth?
They probably were made a while back - but without access to USPC records or D&D records, Hollingsworth's the only one who could tell you. Good chance they were made solely for him and he was using them for performances, then eventually let them go to the public for sale - David Blaine does the same thing with his designs.
Sorry for the late reply, Don.
No. He's far too busy a chap 'lawyering' iro intellectual property, ambush indemnity, patents, et cetera, for me to bug him. Besides, sending an email to his place of work regarding his deck is a tad crass.
On a side note, I had the pleasure of seeing him at a Laura London Presents at the Hippodrome Casino toward the end of last year. An intimate evening with him performing Twisting the Aces, The Reformation and Once Upon a Time, amongst others, and a candid Q&A. A splendid evening!
One of the questions a member of the audience threw at him, was his choice of cards. Naturally, he's a Studs man and regular blue and red Bicycles. Not once did he mention his decks. He opened his briefcase and three were just red decks of Studs and Bicycles.
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On a side note, I had the pleasure of seeing him at a Laura London Presents at the Hippodrome Casino toward the end of last year. An intimate evening with him performing Twisting the Aces, The Reformation and Once Upon a Time, amongst others, and a candid Q&A. A splendid evening!
One of the questions a member of the audience threw at him, was his choice of cards. Naturally, he's a Studs man and regular blue and red Bicycles. Not once did he mention his decks. He opened his briefcase and three were just red decks of Studs and Bicycles.
Studs aren't so easily found these days - he must have stocked up, big time. It still boggles my mind that Walgreens stopped making Studs in favor of Play-Rights. You can't even make a proper poker pair out of Play-Rights unless you custom-build your own deck in the second color by splitting and re-gluing two entire decks, one for the faces and the other for the backs!
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On a side note, I had the pleasure of seeing him at a Laura London Presents at the Hippodrome Casino toward the end of last year. An intimate evening with him performing Twisting the Aces, The Reformation and Once Upon a Time, amongst others, and a candid Q&A. A splendid evening!
One of the questions a member of the audience threw at him, was his choice of cards. Naturally, he's a Studs man and regular blue and red Bicycles. Not once did he mention his decks. He opened his briefcase and three were just red decks of Studs and Bicycles.
Studs aren't so easily found these days - he must have stocked up, big time. It still boggles my mind that Walgreens stopped making Studs in favor of Play-Rights. You can't even make a proper poker pair out of Play-Rights unless you custom-build your own deck in the second color by splitting and re-gluing two entire decks, one for the faces and the other for the backs!
Sorry for yet another late reply.
I'm disabled (housebound, actually) and am on a LOT of morphine sulfate for pain relief. As a result, it's affected my short-term memory. Putting it bluntly, I forget! A lot!! I forgot to remember to forget, rings a bell! Haha... 😂
Yes. I concur. It's insane, to be perfectly honest. Surely, someone at their HQ has heard that there's a market for Studs. It beggars belief, really.
Talking of Play Rights, I purchased a brick from a dealer on eBay recently and thought they were okay to handle. That was until they started to clump. I'd only used them for 2 days of moderate use.
Plus, the back design (if you can call it a design) is atrocious. What with todays technology, Photoshop, Illustrator, et al, you would have thought they could come up with something half decent. No imagination at all. And the tuck box! Good grief!!!
Anyway, enough of my carping. That's all I seem to do, nowadays ;-)
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Sorry for yet another late reply.
I'm disabled (housebound, actually) and am on a LOT of morphine sulfate for pain relief. As a result, it's affected my short-term memory. Putting it bluntly, I forget! A lot!! I forgot to remember to forget, rings a bell! Haha... 😂
Yes. I concur. It's insane, to be perfectly honest. Surely, someone at their HQ has heard that there's a market for Studs. It beggars belief, really.
Talking of Play Rights, I purchased a brick from a dealer on eBay recently and thought they were okay to handle. That was until they started to clump. I'd only used them for 2 days of moderate use.
Plus, the back design (if you can call it a design) is atrocious. What with todays technology, Photoshop, Illustrator, et al, you would have thought they could come up with something half decent. No imagination at all. And the tuck box! Good grief!!!
Anyway, enough of my carping. That's all I seem to do, nowadays ;-)
Believe it or not, there are some people who like the plain, simple back design of the Play Rights. That "lack of imagination" factor makes the deck look plain vanilla but also completely innocuous - good for magic. But they're still a terrible deck compared to Studs.
Better to get packs of Bikes. Family Dollar has a specially-printed package with the store's price on the tuck box - $3 - for Standards in red and blue as well as the current "Breast Cancer Research" deck. They also have the same arrangement for their $1 Mavericks, but only the most desperate or the most frugal use Mavericks. Or magicians who specialize in Torn-and-Restored (or Torn-and-Destroyed) tricks! I wouldn't even buy Mavericks for children...
Plainest deck I'm using right now are the Signature Series White NOCs. The marking system is on the level of an evil genius. The entire back design consists of a single black pinstripe line forming a border a short distance from the edge of the card - and yet the entire deck is marked for suit and value! Not a practical marking system for games, but there's no way on Earth someone who doesn't know about the cards in advance will suss out the markings. Excellent for magic.
Wait, what topic is this? :))
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i need help or at least advice about the Quartet Gaff in this deck, i knew that Hollingworth have a booklet that instruct over 10 tricks using this gaff, but there is no way i could get it without buying a whole bundle (booklet & gaff - but the gaff i already got :P ) so anyone can give me help/advice how to get a booklet individual or at least performance of tricks using this gaff?
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i need help or at least advice about the Quartet Gaff in this deck, i knew that Hollingworth have a booklet that instruct over 10 tricks using this gaff, but there is no way i could get it without buying a whole bundle (booklet & gaff - but the gaff i already got :P ) so anyone can give me help/advice how to get a booklet individual or at least performance of tricks using this gaff?
Post an image of the gaff in the Magical Cardistry Bonanza and perhaps I can help.
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i need help or at least advice about the Quartet Gaff in this deck, i knew that Hollingworth have a booklet that instruct over 10 tricks using this gaff, but there is no way i could get it without buying a whole bundle (booklet & gaff - but the gaff i already got :P ) so anyone can give me help/advice how to get a booklet individual or at least performance of tricks using this gaff?
Post an image of the gaff in the Magical Cardistry Bonanza and perhaps I can help.
done it :)
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Sorry for yet another late reply.
I'm disabled (housebound, actually) and am on a LOT of morphine sulfate for pain relief. As a result, it's affected my short-term memory. Putting it bluntly, I forget! A lot!! I forgot to remember to forget, rings a bell! Haha... 😂
Yes. I concur. It's insane, to be perfectly honest. Surely, someone at their HQ has heard that there's a market for Studs. It beggars belief, really.
Talking of Play Rights, I purchased a brick from a dealer on eBay recently and thought they were okay to handle. That was until they started to clump. I'd only used them for 2 days of moderate use.
Plus, the back design (if you can call it a design) is atrocious. What with todays technology, Photoshop, Illustrator, et al, you would have thought they could come up with something half decent. No imagination at all. And the tuck box! Good grief!!!
Anyway, enough of my carping. That's all I seem to do, nowadays ;-)
Believe it or not, there are some people who like the plain, simple back design of the Play Rights. That "lack of imagination" factor makes the deck look plain vanilla but also completely innocuous - good for magic. But they're still a terrible deck compared to Studs.?
Better to get packs of Bikes. Family Dollar has a specially-printed package with the store's price on the tuck box - $3 - for Standards in red and blue as well as the current "Breast Cancer Research" deck. They also have the same arrangement for their $1 Mavericks, but only the most desperate or the most frugal use Mavericks. Or magicians who specialize in Torn-and-Restored (or Torn-and-Destroyed) tricks! I wouldn't even buy Mavericks for children...
Plainest deck I'm using right now are the Signature Series White NOCs. The marking system is on the level of an evil genius. The entire back design consists of a single black pinstripe line forming a border a short distance from the edge of the card - and yet the entire deck is marked for suit and value! Not a practical marking system for games, but there's no way on Earth someone who doesn't know about the cards in advance will suss out the markings. Excellent for magic.
Wait, what topic is this? :))
Oops. I did it again. I'm ever so sorry, Don. The expression, "...I forgot to remember to forget...", springs to mind with me.
I still hate Playrights, or Play Rights, whatever they're called. *LOL* 😜 Horrid, absolutely horrid.
I concur. Bikes are the way to go. Even if you were to purchase a brick, at a slightly subsidised price, you can't go wrong. Period. Even though they're a tad dearer, I also really like The Blue Crown basic decks. A good all round deck, with a pleasant design and tradition (older style) courts, which I love.
I love the white NOC's. They're simplie and yet stylish in a purely geometrical way. And, yes, the marking system is 'Evil Genius'. Very cleverly done...
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I concur. Bikes are the way to go. Even if you were to purchase a brick, at a slightly subsidised price, you can't go wrong. Period. Even though they're a tad dearer, I also really like The Blue Crown basic decks. A good all round deck, with a pleasant design and tradition (older style) courts, which I love.
I love the white NOC's. They're simplie and yet stylish in a purely geometrical way. And, yes, the marking system is 'Evil Genius'. Very cleverly done...
The Crown decks are just Arrco faces - same faces as on the old Studs, in fact. They're equally as "traditional" as USPC standard.
I have to talk to Alex about the marking system. I have a tweak for it that will improve it, allowing orientation detection without the need to have uneven borders, giving the deck a true "two-way design" appearance while being completely one way. If you're not working in good-enough light to detect that border differential, the suit mark for all Diamonds gives no indication of orientation, while the suit marks for the other suits do.