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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Playing Card Plethora => Topic started by: badpete69 on April 09, 2014, 01:19:26 PM
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$10.95 a deck
These great new decks are produced by our friend, cardman George Hage. The Owl Eyes deck is one for which Conjuring Arts has an exclusive U.S. supply, with only 1000 decks available. These decks are printed on thick, flexible card stock and have perfectly cut edges; in short they will handle beautifully for a very long time.
Scoop them up in classic black, and don’t forget to be on the lookout for the upcoming blue and purple versions of this deck, too!
(http://conjuringarts.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/588x340xOwlEyeWPBan.jpg.pagespeed.ic.lX8bQWIKvc.jpg)
(http://shop.conjuringarts.org/store/pc/catalog/BlkOwlEye3-det.jpg)
(http://shop.conjuringarts.org/store/pc/catalog/BlkOwlEye8-det.jpg)
(http://shop.conjuringarts.org/store/pc/catalog/BlkOwlEye9-det.jpg)
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Awesome! Looking forward to the blue and purple releases. Too bad they weren't all released at once. I would have liked to get a mixed brick (4 of each color) in one shot.
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Pros- Nice custom Tuck, Back, Jokers, and AOS
Cons- Everything else
standard courts, and number cards
Who is printer? USPCC? EPCC? Somebody else?
www.nozero.net (printed on tuck) comes up with a page that says www.nozero.net, and 2 thick lines-that's it
$10.95 +$2.50 shipping for a semi-custom deck
I'm hoping CARC isn't taking cues from D&D.
Sorry- Pass for me- highly disappointed :(
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Pros- Nice custom Tuck, Back, Jokers, and AOS
Cons- Everything else
standard courts, and number cards
Who is printer? USPCC? EPCC? Somebody else?
www.nozero.net (printed on tuck) comes up with a page that says www.nozero.net, and 2 thick lines-that's it
$10.95 +$2.50 shipping for a semi-custom deck
I'm hoping CARC isn't taking cues from D&D.
Sorry- Pass for me- highly disappointed :(
I agree. I would have bought it for the tuck and the back but not for $10.95.
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Guys, they're worth it. I was keeping it mum, but when Bill Kalush gave me the Smith No. 3 deck, he slipped me a pack of blue Owl Eyes as well. Gorgeous art on the backs and made in the Taiwan plant of EPCC, if I'm not mistaken.
The faces are standard, but the deck does come with a unique Ace of Spades, a blank facer, a double backer, and one of the two "identical" jokers has a very subtle card reveal. The handling is what you'd expect from an EPCC Taiwan deck.
If I had more cash on me, I'd be ordering them now.
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I'm going to have to pass on these as well. I know that this is going to sound weird, but the back reminds me of Steampunk a LOT, and I am in no way a fan of Steampunk. That's just me though, and I can't really pinpoint why it pops out at me like that, but it does so enough to warant the pass from me.
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Don do these come in some stack or just premixed?
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Honestly, Victor, I can't recall. I think they did, but I'm not certain. Bear in mind as well, I got the BLUE deck, not the black one, so there may be a difference in the deck order much like David Blaine did with the Split Spades Lions (only the blue deck came in stack order).
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Don do these come in some stack or just premixed?
I just received mine and I like 'em a lot. They come in Mnemonica stack. Nice, thick stock.
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My cards stink. Literally. Right out of the box. It's a putrid chemical smell. Other than that, I really like them.
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earlier design? http://cargocollective.com/adrienampuy/OWL-EYES
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earlier design? http://cargocollective.com/adrienampuy/OWL-EYES
Looks like it.
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Blue Owl eyes are now available at CARC
(http://shop.conjuringarts.org/store/pc/catalog/BluOwlEye1-det.jpg)
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Not sure why they feel the need to make people pay shipping 3 times when they could have just released them all at once. Would have saved them some hassle also, instead of doing things 3 times. It's not like they didn't have them when they released the black deck.
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Not sure why they feel the need to make people pay shipping 3 times when they could have just released them all at once. Would have saved them some hassle also, instead of doing things 3 times. It's not like they didn't have them when they released the black deck.
Really? Are you so certain? Because while Bill Kalush owns Expert PCC and is the director of CARC, these decks AREN'T Bill's. He made them through EPCC, to be sure, but for another person! He's at the mercy of what that client wants to do when it comes to selling these decks and on what time table. He was fortunate to get any to sell on his site at all!
Would you please think about these things before shooting off your mouth, Victor? And READ the last PM I sent you.
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First I wasn't shooting off my mouth, simply stating something that i'm sure most international customers would agree with.
And secondly you are right, I don't know what their arrange is, but i'm not sure that there is one either.
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First I wasn't shooting off my mouth, simply stating something that i'm sure most international customers would agree with.
Yes, international shipping sucks. No if and or buys about it, but it's just one of those things that no one makes money on. Honestly, my suggestion, is to find a proxy in the USA to ship things so they hold it until it fills up a medium or large priority box to save on shipping. There are proxy companies or find a friend on the board.
It looks like the same shade of blue they used for the Legends, which is a lovely shade.
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As one of my mates said to me
"shipping kills me to the uk maybe just a promise that all colours will eventually be in stock at once so nobody worried would be good next time"
I think this would be good, not sure if it's possible, but it would be good.
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I'm going to have to pass on these as well. I know that this is going to sound weird, but the back reminds me of Steampunk a LOT, and I am in no way a fan of Steampunk. That's just me though, and I can't really pinpoint why it pops out at me like that, but it does so enough to warant the pass from me.
I could not agree more, the lack of customized pips and number cards just seems a bit lazy.
edit. also I just noticed the distinct absence of effort on the face cards too.
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Got mine today - I will review them soon - you should be able to get all the colors (and cheaper/ and 15% of the money will be going to charity for the decks sold on that website) at no-zero.net but George hasn't got the website up and going.
http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae51/mojo_turbo/20140515_150216_zpsqkhqjuj2.jpg
I asked George if they were CARC/Legends and he said
More likely the same as legends. Probably best just to say they were made in Taiwan without going into detail if you want to mention where they were made!
They don't smell like Legends...
EDIT: I take that back, just opened my NOC3s they DO kinda smell like LEGENDS
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UPDATE: not trying to double-post
Hey looks like http://www.no-zero.net/ is live - you can order all 3 colors now - plus they are a $1 cheaper than CARC
5% of the profits of all the Owl Eyes sold here will go to Breathe Magic. This charity teaches magic as a way to rehabilitate children who have conditions such as hemiplegia or who have had a stroke or brain injury. For more information: http://breatheahr.org/breathe-magic.
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I ordered from http://www.no-zero.net/ and they just refunded to my paypal account the full order cost with no explanation.
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yea... and now the site is back down.. so maybe an issue.....
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I don't know what the no-zero.net thing is but we definitely have a U.S. exclusive.
We can completely understand that shipping 3 orders instead of 1 sucks, especially internationally. To offset that we will offer to hold your Owls until we release the last deck. It's not optimal but the only thing we can think of to save that money for our customers. Just email us and we will do it. We will figure out a better way to not drip out the color versions in the future but we really don't like flooding the market with too many decks all at once. There are already so many decks from all directions that we don't want to add to the torrent.
To clarify a point, these were NOT made by EPCC but by a friend of ours and we bought them so thus the higher price. When EPCC makes a deck for Conjuring Arts to release we try to keep the retail as low as possible. Our real goal is to have people use these cards. We love collectors but we also love magicians and want the cards appreciated.
One other point that we don't mention often. 100% of our profits at EPCC and Conjuring Arts go to charity. Conjuring Arts is a 501(c)3 using all of it's money to help others through our cultural and outreach work. That doesn't mean that we are perfect, nor better than any other company, nor that you must love us or buy our cards but it does mean we are trying our best to be good citizens of the world!
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I ordered from http://www.no-zero.net/ and they just refunded to my paypal account the full order cost with no explanation.
EXACTLY the same experience for me. If the site wasnot supposed to be fully up and running, then no problem... but to refund WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATION, is pretty crap.
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Just wanted to add a good word for the folks at Conjuring Arts. I know this is a bit off-topic, and sorry, but it also seems to fit the conversation. I realized while reading this I never went back to post this (and apologies, as I really meant to!):
Bill and company are a stand up organization in my eyes. They swiftly took care of the broken cello issue with the Jerry's deck I got from them. I find it very rare to find great customer service these days, but CARC delivers that old school style of customer service I love and wish I could still get everywhere.
I'm a customer for life. The fact that they are non-profit is a huge bonus!
Cheers!
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Hi everyone! I am pleased to say that www.no-zero.net is now officially live and accepting orders for all 3 colours worldwide. Some of you may have noticed that the site was live a few times in the last few days, but that was only for some testing and the prices on there were not correct. The site is correct and live now.
I’d like to clarify a few points here. First, when I say that the deck was 3 years in the making, I do not mean that the specific art for this deck took 3 years. I went back and forth with the artist for a period of three years trying out different design concepts. We literally did about 50 different designs before settling on the Owl Eyes theme. Within the Owl Eyes theme we did about 15 different variations. One of the other reasons it took so long is because al of the elements were hand drawn.
Finding the company took a long time too. The Owl Eyes were indeed printed by a Taiwanese factory. We went through a very large number of card manufacturers around the world before finding the company we used. It so happens that we used the same manufacturers as Expert Playing Cards and Legends Playing Cards uses. I would like to clarify that they were printed independently of CARC even though they are selling some.
I would like to apologise for any confusion as to the numbers produced. There were indeed more than 1,000 of each colour produced. I asked Bill to change the original text to make it clear that he only had approximately 1,000 decks and that this figure did not represent the total number in existence. He changed it to say that he did not know how many other decks would be released. I also have approximately 1,000 of each colour to sell.
I want to be as transparent and as helpful as possible, so if people have any questions, or any issues with the site, please email info@no-zero.net. I will get back to you as soon as I can!
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Thanks for stopping in and helping clarify the situation. I've updated the topic title to reflect this new information.
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If you bought the black and blue decks from CARC , looks like free shipping on the upcoming red deck. Cool
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just curious, why does the title say "purple?" no-zero & conjuring arts say it's "deep scarlet" And according to wikipedia "Scarlet is a bright red with a slightly orange tinge."
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If you look at the pic, I would say they are wine red so closer to purple than Red. Don changed the title a while back and I assume he has a deck in hand. But whatever I guess hehe
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If you look at the pic, I would say they are wine red so closer to purple than Red. Don changed the title a while back and I assume he has a deck in hand. But whatever I guess hehe
Seen them. Purple. Not red. But whatever makes Marketing happy, I guess...
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Hey everyone, I am happy to announce the US shipping is now free for all decks on www.no-zero.net.! For any questions, please contact us at info@no-zero.net
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Hey everyone, I am happy to announce the US shipping is now free for all decks on www.no-zero.net.! For any questions, please contact us at info@no-zero.net
...and he's offering price discounts if you buy in larger quantities.
3 decks gets you 5% off.
6 decks gets you 10% off.
12 decks gets you 20% off.
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Hey everyone, I am happy to announce the US shipping is now free for all decks on www.no-zero.net.! For any questions, please contact us at info@no-zero.net
...and he's offering price discounts if you buy in larger quantities.
3 decks gets you 5% off.
6 decks gets you 10% off.
12 decks gets you 20% off.
Nice cards. With 20% off, it's still a plus $100 brick. Free shipping helps but It's not quite a $10+ deck for me.
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Nice cards. With 20% off, it's still a plus $100 brick. Free shipping helps but It's not quite a $10+ deck for me.
It's $105.12 for a brick after discount, which divides out to a per-deck cost of $8.76, not $10+. Compared to other decks not just from Kickstarter but from other major deck design companies like Ellusionist, Theory11, et al., that's a very competitive price for a deck with shipping included.
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Nice cards. With 20% off, it's still a plus $100 brick. Free shipping helps but It's not quite a $10+ deck for me.
It's $105.12 for a brick after discount, which divides out to a per-deck cost of $8.76, not $10+. Compared to other decks not just from Kickstarter but from other major deck design companies like Ellusionist, Theory11, et al., that's a very competitive price for a deck with shipping included.
Dollars and Cents. Theory11 and E offer discounts also (as you know). With shipping, I've never paid more then $85 for a brick. No one said I had to buy a brick. I have to draw the line somewhere. Pull back on those horse reins and get this wagon (deck prices) under control.
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Nice cards. With 20% off, it's still a plus $100 brick. Free shipping helps but It's not quite a $10+ deck for me.
It's $105.12 for a brick after discount, which divides out to a per-deck cost of $8.76, not $10+. Compared to other decks not just from Kickstarter but from other major deck design companies like Ellusionist, Theory11, et al., that's a very competitive price for a deck with shipping included.
Dollars and Cents. Theory11 and E offer discounts also (as you know). With shipping, I've never paid more then $85 for a brick. No one said I had to buy a brick. I have to draw the line somewhere. Pull back on those horse reins and get this wagon (deck prices) under control.
Compared to what people are typically paying on Kickstarter these days, these decks ARE a bargain!
But yes, I do understand your sentiments about rising prices in the custom deck market. I find it difficult to disagree.
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I just got a deck delivered that I bought on eBay. The Queen of Hearts isn't symmetric -- the flower she's holding isn't colored.
Mistake or gag?
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I just got a deck delivered that I bought on eBay. The Queen of Hearts isn't symmetric -- the flower she's holding isn't colored.
Mistake or gag?
My guess would be that it's deliberate. If you check the pagefor owl eyes deck at LegendsPlayingCards.com, it says that sharp eyes will be able to find secrets hidden in the deck.
I think it's a pretty cool, and relatively discrete one way marking :)