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Title: The Flight Deck
Post by: PRM19XX on February 22, 2014, 01:43:44 PM
I'm launching my first playing card project on Kickstarter Monday Feb, 24.
The Flight Deck Playing Cards and Folio set.
Here's an image and a preview link. I've gotten a lot of feedback from playing card collectors, magicians, and aviators. I'm finally ready to launch!
Here's your last chance to take a look before it goes live!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/134284667/2014910784?token=6be6790a (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/134284667/2014910784?token=6be6790a)

(http://kopetkai.com/Flight/mockupsolosm.jpg)
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: badpete69 on February 22, 2014, 01:49:06 PM
PRM  nice to have you on the boards..  Obviously you mean on the 24th..  Will check it out
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: JacksonRobinson on February 22, 2014, 01:59:07 PM
Great project! and Great Art! let me know if you have any questions that I might could help you with. Can't wait to back!

Jackson
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: PRM19XX on February 22, 2014, 02:00:54 PM
PRM  nice to have you on the boards..  Obviously you mean on the 24th..  Will check it out
Oops, yes, I did indeed mean the 24th!
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: PRM19XX on February 22, 2014, 02:01:28 PM
Great project! and Great Art! let me know if you have any questions that I might could help you with. Can't wait to back!

Jackson
You asked for it Jackson, I'm sending you a question!
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: JacksonRobinson on February 22, 2014, 02:04:23 PM
Great project! and Great Art! let me know if you have any questions that I might could help you with. Can't wait to back!

Jackson
You asked for it Jackson, I'm sending you a question!

no problem, use my personal email jackson@kingswildproject.com
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: Nurul on February 22, 2014, 02:25:08 PM
Wow, looks great. What's the print run on each deck? Also, what time is the launch?
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: PRM19XX on February 22, 2014, 02:35:58 PM
Wow, looks great. What's the print run on each deck? Also, what time is the launch?

Thanks! Right now the plan is around 5,000 for each deck and about 1,000 for the flight log. I have an LE version of each deck planned but that's a stretch goal down the line. We'll see if that happens!
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: jwats01 on February 22, 2014, 02:44:09 PM
I like this a lot. Takes me back to when I started taking flying lessons.
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: Don Boyer on February 23, 2014, 01:38:40 AM
I like the design a lot - but there's one element that just looks way too out of place for me.

The Ace of Spades on the Airplane deck - why did you make the face that of a horned devil skull?  It doesn't fit the theme very well to my eyes.  I would think a "daring young man in his flying machine" would have been a better choice.  Is there a specific, thematic reason for choosing that image?

A word of advice - make it clear to people that clicking on the images will send them to a blown-up version on a new page.  I don't see many KS projects offering close-ups like that and it gives people a chance to really see the art details up close.  It could convince a fence-sitter to become a backer.

Hey, for the bonus limited-edition deck - are you making a jet-flight deck?  Or perhaps even spaceflight?  :))
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: PRM19XX on February 23, 2014, 01:49:55 AM
It's an aviator skull smoking a cigarette with his scarf blowing in the wind. The deck mostly deals with civil aviation so I wanted a nod to combat pilots in there and I like the idea of the Ace of Spades being different and kind of gritty. There was this great painting from WWI I saw once and it was this pilot flying out of the clouds firing down on some enemies and in the co-pilot seat the grim reaper was sitting there pointing out his targets. So I wanted to create a deck that was positive and full of hope and progress, but at the same time had a couple nods to some darker imagery.

Right now I've got some ideas for some LE decks involving different color schemes and even a sequel set of decks that could involve more advanced flight but if things go well that stuff will all be known in time. So fingers crossed, we get to a point with this campaign that I can produce those LE decks. And you're probably right about the blow ups, I'll add a note!

I like the design a lot - but there's one element that just looks way too out of place for me.

The Ace of Spades on the Airplane deck - why did you make the face that of a horned devil skull?  It doesn't fit the theme very well to my eyes.  I would think a "daring young man in his flying machine" would have been a better choice.  Is there a specific, thematic reason for choosing that image?

A word of advice - make it clear to people that clicking on the images will send them to a blown-up version on a new page.  I don't see many KS projects offering close-ups like that and it gives people a chance to really see the art details up close.  It could convince a fence-sitter to become a backer.

Hey, for the bonus limited-edition deck - are you making a jet-flight deck?  Or perhaps even spaceflight?  :))
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: Don Boyer on February 23, 2014, 03:26:45 AM
It's an aviator skull smoking a cigarette with his scarf blowing in the wind. The deck mostly deals with civil aviation so I wanted a nod to combat pilots in there and I like the idea of the Ace of Spades being different and kind of gritty. There was this great painting from WWI I saw once and it was this pilot flying out of the clouds firing down on some enemies and in the co-pilot seat the grim reaper was sitting there pointing out his targets. So I wanted to create a deck that was positive and full of hope and progress, but at the same time had a couple nods to some darker imagery.

Right now I've got some ideas for some LE decks involving different color schemes and even a sequel set of decks that could involve more advanced flight but if things go well that stuff will all be known in time. So fingers crossed, we get to a point with this campaign that I can produce those LE decks. And you're probably right about the blow ups, I'll add a note!

Consider a WW2 fighter plane nose art deck!  Someone's probably done one before, but that kind of art never seems to fall out of fashion!

I would still leave out the skull on the Ace.  You're right in that the two decks cover civil aviation, which makes the fighter craft artwork seem all the more out of place.  An image of an attractive stewardess or aviatrix (from the days before we called them by gender-neutral terms such as "flight attendants" and "pilots") would probably rock on that card.  Even wing walkers would fit better!
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: PRM19XX on February 23, 2014, 03:53:28 AM
Consider a WW2 fighter plane nose art deck!  Someone's probably done one before, but that kind of art never seems to fall out of fashion!

I would still leave out the skull on the Ace.  You're right in that the two decks cover civil aviation, which makes the fighter craft artwork seem all the more out of place.  An image of an attractive stewardess or aviatrix (from the days before we called them by gender-neutral terms such as "flight attendants" and "pilots") would probably rock on that card.  Even wing walkers would fit better!

I'm definitely keeping that Aviator Skull. It's sort of one of my signatures. I'm all for making changes when people make suggestions. I've made a lot of adjustments to the deck the past couple weeks based on people's suggestions but I guess this one is important to me!

Maybe one of your other ideas would work well for the LE deck? Who knows! People definitely like pinup art. But I have a lot of female fans and they definitely let me hear it if I do too much cheesecake stuff so I have to be careful with that.
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: Don Boyer on February 23, 2014, 04:06:08 AM

Maybe one of your other ideas would work well for the LE deck? Who knows! People definitely like pinup art. But I have a lot of female fans and they definitely let me hear it if I do too much cheesecake stuff so I have to be careful with that.

Ah, but that's the beauty of the old fighter nose art - it was sexy but never reached the point of raunchy.  It was a different time and social standards were a bit different than they are today.  Playboy Magazine wouldn't even exist for about another decade!

You could even make Rosie the Riveter and Uncle Sam the jokers for such a deck!
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: Anthony on February 23, 2014, 08:08:45 AM
Very nice design and concept PRM, I like it a lot. I understand your concern with being "Tasteful" when dealing with your female backers/fans, but keep in mind that some Nose Art is more than just a Pin Up and marks some very historic events.

Good Luck!!

A very well known Nose Art image comes to mind...
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: musical_racket on February 23, 2014, 11:25:32 AM
That is a good looking deck! I will be surely backing it on Kickstarter tomorrow. I have always enjoyed decks of cards that have a simple but sleek design. That folder is really nice too! Can't wait!
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: superdarkdark on February 23, 2014, 03:33:22 PM
you got my support. this is a very mature design. real classy looking decks & the deck holder is a nice touch, good selling point. i think i may even pick up a t shirt too.

good luck !
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: badpete69 on February 24, 2014, 11:48:06 AM
PRM..Are you still planning to go live today?  Your preview link now does not work.  maybe some changes being made?
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: PRM19XX on February 24, 2014, 11:51:24 AM
Yup, going live today, in about 4 hours! 12 noon PST
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: CBJ on February 24, 2014, 12:47:24 PM
I'm looking forward to this!!
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: badpete69 on February 24, 2014, 03:08:43 PM
Ok now live

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/134284667/the-flight-deck-the-dawn-of-aviation-playing-cards (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/134284667/the-flight-deck-the-dawn-of-aviation-playing-cards)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/633/632/8df3e0b846913d9fba8a055046ed1706_large.jpg?1392358413)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/666/476/431c42eb8e3575c4300390d2ae124921_large.jpg?1393119613)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/666/478/63627f0e01600e2f990456025f11baad_large.jpg?1393119780)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/666/492/2f5080e00ba7e1a12ded3e0c41653e3d_large.jpg?1393120124)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/666/480/27ac79e324b1ff8eac560a78aa73d03c_large.jpg?1393119873)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/666/500/f84a737cfbcab15d212578ed832778dc_large.jpg?1393120408)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/666/508/aabf08b8cb9cf3c204d57179ca969a68_large.jpg?1393120550)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/666/516/0f11a1fcfe567bde22dea8a0aeba8264_large.jpg?1393120759)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/666/521/f029e343b33943409ab8511950802983_large.jpg?1393120820)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/659/873/28a18c2dc62b6a8f599efab14a69afc1_large.jpg?1392950206)
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: GBAllison on February 24, 2014, 07:28:10 PM
I'm in.  These are GORGEOUS.  What an elegant art deco look to the whole thing.  And while I get it that your skull is a signature thing (and not in keeping with the art deco theme at all), THANK YOU for not putting a skull on every card.  One on the Ace of Spades?  That's cool ... your signatures, your rules.

A question ... if we're supposed to recognize who the people are on the courts, it would be really nice if one of the extra cards would have a cheat sheet to tell us who's who.

This is a must buy for me.

Well done.
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: PRM19XX on February 24, 2014, 07:36:58 PM
Thanks! And I'll have to remember to draw a skull on your package. LOL
I was thinking of doing a cheat sheet card but decided on the gaff cards instead.
And the reason for that is I'm hoping to do a small art booklet that will fit into the Flight Log, or at least release a .pdf of it.
But After drawing these I now know that Orville had the mustache and Wilbur was the bald one. I'd know those guys anywhere

I'm in.  These are GORGEOUS.  What an elegant art deco look to the whole thing.  And while I get it that your skull is a signature thing (and not in keeping with the art deco theme at all), THANK YOU for not putting a skull on every card.  One on the Ace of Spades?  That's cool ... your signatures, your rules.

A question ... if we're supposed to recognize who the people are on the courts, it would be really nice if one of the extra cards would have a cheat sheet to tell us who's who.

This is a must buy for me.

Well done.
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: ivan on February 24, 2014, 10:56:47 PM
Can't help it... Have to share this awesome interview with PRM on Kardify!

http://www.kardify.com/2014/02/kickstarter-7-questions-with-paul-roman.html

Enjoy
!

 :D

Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: PRM19XX on February 25, 2014, 01:43:18 PM
New update is up if you haven't already seen it....
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/134284667/the-flight-deck-the-dawn-of-aviation-playing-cards/posts (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/134284667/the-flight-deck-the-dawn-of-aviation-playing-cards/posts)
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/676/589/677cfc95854cb414c5293fb5d4b6824f_large.jpg?1393351377)
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: Saker on February 25, 2014, 01:52:17 PM
Beautiful cards.  I'm in!
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: PRM19XX on February 26, 2014, 12:58:31 PM
New update is up, but it's mostly about how to do add ons. Since you guys are kickstarter pros I'm sure you already know how to do it! Meanwhile, I hope you noticed I added a dealer coin. I got a lot of comments from people requesting it right before the project launched.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/134284667/the-flight-deck-the-dawn-of-aviation-playing-cards/posts/759903 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/134284667/the-flight-deck-the-dawn-of-aviation-playing-cards/posts/759903)
(http://kopetkai.com/Flight/challengecoin.jpg)
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: PRM19XX on February 27, 2014, 05:35:27 PM
Airship ace of clubs is up, along with a brief explanation of the first two aces in the airship deck!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/134284667/the-flight-deck-the-dawn-of-aviation-playing-cards/posts (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/134284667/the-flight-deck-the-dawn-of-aviation-playing-cards/posts)
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/685/369/af0399dfd0e1eb816c30820a60d0ae44_large.jpg?1393520691)
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: Home Run on February 28, 2014, 09:34:07 PM
Paul,

I'm loving the deck and the options. You did an amazing job on the flight book. So cool!
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: PRM19XX on February 28, 2014, 09:51:10 PM
Thanks Mike! Talking to you really cleared up some mysteries of playing card production. I love how your new decks came out, especially that unique tuck box.
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: PRM19XX on March 03, 2014, 12:54:13 PM
The last two Airship Aces are up, that makes four!
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/700/363/25097c41c69eee490060d6c4a054b9aa_large.jpg?1393868872) (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/134284667/the-flight-deck-the-dawn-of-aviation-playing-cards)
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: badpete69 on March 10, 2014, 04:09:29 PM
The limited unbranded decks are now available. Only 1000 available

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/727/648/529bb76dc48c46d1b9644c301a856456_large.jpg?1394412328)
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: PRM19XX on March 20, 2014, 09:31:17 PM
I just received the dummy mock up from the factory for the two deck holder. It looks great! Of course this is a blank white with no debossing but it feels very substantial and holds the decks very tightly. I'm very excited about how it's looking. I will post it to the project tomorrow but I wanted you guys to get a first look at it. Also I ordered this before I moved the buttons to the side but the rest is the same. Moving the buttons to the side allowed for a larger imprint on the front. I wanted to create a truly unique deck holder and that meant starting from scratch!

(http://kopetkai.com/Flight/mockupsolo2.jpg) (http://kck.st/1fnEcbq)
Below is the mockup of the book open so you can see what the imprint will look like.
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/697/378/d23f153f79e0063eeca5238d1f46e5f1_large.jpg) (http://kck.st/1fnEcbq)
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: bamabenz on August 14, 2014, 09:51:24 PM
I received two boxes, each with a sketch log book tier.
Wow.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3924/14735182360_23e9f6595d_c.jpg)
First off, the two packing boxes together form a diptych with a sketch of a combat pilot in his cockpit.
The two sketches are wonderful pencil art.
The tucks are elegant. The log books are over the top sort of rewards, truly unique and well put together.
I'm blown away and I haven't opened a tuck yet.
Wow.
/bama
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: shadowkat on August 14, 2014, 10:07:29 PM
I have backed every Paul Roman Martinez Kickstarter and he is top notch.  I received my decks, but didn't go for a sketch tier.  Those look awesome.  The sketches on the box are super cool too!  Welcome to the Paul Roman Martinez fan club. 
Title: Re: The Flight Deck
Post by: PRM19XX on August 19, 2014, 07:44:40 PM
Thanks for the kind words here guys!

I just wanted to give you a final update on the numbers from the printing project so you know how many decks are out there.
I printed roughly 2,700 Blue Bicycle Flight Decks and 2,700 Red Bicycle Flight Decks, and 1,000 each of the Unbranded Blue and Red decks.
I printed 1,000 of the Flight Logbook Deck holders.
I have about 50 each of the Blue Bicycle and Red Bicycle decks left. And I ended up with just enough of the unbranded decks to fill the logbooks I had left.
So I'm essentially out of the Blue and Red Bicycle decks. I'm not going to even add them to my webstore. I also decided that I won't be reprinting those through Bicycle. So I guess they ended up as limited edition after all. Whatever is out there for the Flight Bicycle decks is all there will ever be!