I'm kind of curious about why they put the Cyrillic "D" on the mitre the King is holding. That letter is used in Russian decks on the index for the Queen (dama). (It's that thing that vaguely resembles an A.)
I'm liking this .. The card design on the face reminds me of another deck, can't quite think of which deck.
Nonetheless, I like what I see so far. Aquila is a Latin word for eagle, so I wonder if they're going with that particular theme or it's just the name of the deck.
I'm kind of curious about why they put the Cyrillic "D" on the mitre the King is holding. That letter is used in Russian decks on the index for the Queen (dama). (It's that thing that vaguely resembles an A.)
Seems clear that they *are* using it as an "A", since they use it as such twice in the name of their deck right below the image you are referring to, no? ;)
So, I'm seeing the letter on the card as a reference to the title of the deck...
Even if it is technically a Cyrillic "D", it wouldn't be the first time someone used an "odd" character in place of the standard one.
But perhaps there is a "deeper" meaning behind it...? Guess we'll have to ask the designer if/when they come around...
See, I knew it was a Cyrillic letter!
Playing cards are pretty popular among much of the Russian-speaking world. Consider using (or creating) a different character that's more "A-like" so as to not confuse that segment of you potential audience. An eagle pointing up with spread wings slanted back would evoke both an "A" and an eagle, the deck's namesake - it might be a better choice.
I'm curious about MPC as well. I am currently backing their KS and from the sound of it, they have quite a few higher-level features available over what a "Print poorly on smooth paper" manufacturer would have. I get the feeling that they are wanting to become a strong custom contender with USPCC. I wish that I had the MPC decks in my hand now though to get a better idea.
See, I knew it was a Cyrillic letter!
Playing cards are pretty popular among much of the Russian-speaking world. Consider using (or creating) a different character that's more "A-like" so as to not confuse that segment of you potential audience. An eagle pointing up with spread wings slanted back would evoke both an "A" and an eagle, the deck's namesake - it might be a better choice.
PurpleIce : IMO the 1st concept is just like a color change, so we're trying to make a new court from scratch, and we want to make it looks simple, while we put some detail on the background.
The Cycrilic "de" has been change, I've posted the new "A" character above ;)
I prefer the original jokers - the new ones are too reminiscent of the Bicycle Asura decks. On the joker with the reveal, swap positions between the reveal card's name and "Aquila" - it hides better, making for a big surprise when the spectator finally spots it.
Hi Adhex,
I do understand the 1st concept is just a colour change from a standard court card. What i'm trying to say is its just weird to see nice detailing on the background, jokers, and even the pips have an outlining, but the courts just seem a little "flat". I'm not saying you should use the 1st concept, but maybe, say, add minor detailing to the king's crown as according to your deck concept?
I may be wrong and i welcome people to correct me, but Garuda is a mythical bird-like creature who is the mount of Vishnu. Going back to the Hindi religion, past impressions is that though they are clothed simply, accessories and jeweleries like crowns and bangles are quite intricately designed. Be it Buddhism or Hinduism, which i believe have some cross relations or influences of each other, they all have very detailed drawings in their artwork, sculptures and architecture. (Which is how i know a small part of these information through studying Balinese architecture.)
Don't get me wrong. I think it is a really nice deck. It is just a first impression when i see the images that i thought more could be done. But i am not the one designing the deck, and i know a lot probably needs to be "tried and tested" before knowing whats best. For all i may know, simplicity might be the best way to go. It is just my personal opinion of adding more detailing when i first see the court cards.
I prefer the original jokers - the new ones are too reminiscent of the Bicycle Asura decks. On the joker with the reveal, swap positions between the reveal card's name and "Aquila" - it hides better, making for a big surprise when the spectator finally spots it.
I prefer the original jokers - the new ones are too reminiscent of the Bicycle Asura decks. On the joker with the reveal, swap positions between the reveal card's name and "Aquila" - it hides better, making for a big surprise when the spectator finally spots it.
I've to agree with Purple for the Joker, so we'll use the 2nd concept joker for the deck. If you notice there's also a 3 of Hearts reveal on the joker.
I finally found that reveal - man, that thing is hidden! It's too easily mistaken for something else, I think. Consider doing what Ellusionist did for the Arcane Jokeress. Yours can say "The Myth" on one card, "3Hearts" on the other card and disguise the reveal to look more like the other card's phrase. The beauty of a reveal is that you want the spectator to find it, unbidden from you, so it comes as more of a shock when they spot the change. Hidden is good, but your present reveal seems just TOO well hidden.
So i did some quick research on Asura with my 2 best friend, google and wiki, seems that its tied together with Hinduism as well.
Just FYI.
In Hinduism, the asuras (Sanskrit: असुर) are non-suras, a different group of power-seeking deities besides the suras, sometimes considered naturalists, or nature-beings, in constant battle with the devas.
Deva (देव in Devanagari script) is the Sanskrit word for deity, its related feminine term is devi. In modern Hinduism, it can be loosely interpreted as any benevolent supernatural being. The devas in Hinduism, also called Suras, are often juxtaposed to the Asuras, their half brothers.[1] Devas are also the maintainers of the realms as ordained by the Trimurti. They are often warring with their equally powerful counterparts, the Asuras.
I finally found that reveal - man, that thing is hidden! It's too easily mistaken for something else, I think. Consider doing what Ellusionist did for the Arcane Jokeress. Yours can say "The Myth" on one card, "3Hearts" on the other card and disguise the reveal to look more like the other card's phrase. The beauty of a reveal is that you want the spectator to find it, unbidden from you, so it comes as more of a shock when they spot the change. Hidden is good, but your present reveal seems just TOO well hidden.
I don't know about trends and history of reveals, so i won't comment on if it should be included. Neither will i comment on how a reveal should be disguised.
But it being "TOO well hidden", that i agree. I'm no magician, but i can imagine a situation whereby a magician will ask the audience too see closer or even requiring to point it out to him/her where the reveal is, which i believe is a bit of a damper on the mood and "wow" effect.
Wait the new joker has a reveal? I cant find it, spent 10 minutes looking.
Wait the new joker has a reveal? I cant find it, spent 10 minutes looking.
Yes, it has 3 of Hearts and 7HEARTS (look at the 2nd joker, right side).
actually the 7HEARTS is very obvious :D
Hmm..
Seem a little quiet in here!
Here's a new image to hopefully get the conversation started!
What is blind embossing?
Good luck with this guys! :)
You beat me to it. Just backed for a mixed quad.
Can somebody explain the difference between the Legends Playing Card Company and the Expert Playing Card Company? Are they both trademarks of Conjuring Arts?
I'm confused as I saw this page:
http://tuckcase.com/2013/07/10/new-release-conjuring-arts-research-center-launches-the-expert-playing-card-co-debuts-global-titans/
My Exquisite Decks and Global Titan decks say on the tuck "Expert Playing Card Company".
My Legends 1st Edition tuck has multiple references to Lawrence Sullivan, but none to Legends Playing Card Co.
Legends and Exquisite cards have much the same smooth feel, while the Global Titans are much coarser -- and they are made in Shanghai, not Taiwan. So I'm guessing that the Aquila cards will feel like the Legends and Exquisite?
/bama
Here's the story as I know it, folks.
Bill Kalush is the Director of the Conjuring Arts Research Center (CARC). He produced several decks of cards with USPC, but wanted to take a different course, scouted out many printers from around the world, and settled on one located in Taiwan, the name of which is an industry secret. He used another location from Shanghai, but the cards from that plant weren't as well received. There are some old-school card men who swear by them, but they do take considerably more breaking in.
Bill worked with Lawrence Sullivan in the production of his Legends deck, version 1, from which the Legends Playing Card Company grew. They both are exclusive agents of the same printer in Taiwan. Legends PCC appear to be taking orders from designers in the Far East, while Expert PCC is taking orders from designers in North America and Europe.
Anything more than that, I'd actually have to ask Bill.
BTW: you guys do realize that not only is Bill a member here, but that the Expert Playing Card Company has an official sticky topic in the Plethora? Right? And that there's an official "company rep" rank, with a company identity for EPCC, specifically created for answering questions and disseminating information about upcoming releases?
Sometimes I feel like I'm talking to myself around here... :))
Here's the story as I know it, folks.
Bill Kalush is the Director of the Conjuring Arts Research Center (CARC). He produced several decks of cards with USPC, but wanted to take a different course, scouted out many printers from around the world, and settled on one located in Taiwan, the name of which is an industry secret. He used another location from Shanghai, but the cards from that plant weren't as well received. There are some old-school card men who swear by them, but they do take considerably more breaking in.
Bill worked with Lawrence Sullivan in the production of his Legends deck, version 1, from which the Legends Playing Card Company grew. They both are exclusive agents of the same printer in Taiwan. Legends PCC appear to be taking orders from designers in the Far East, while Expert PCC is taking orders from designers in North America and Europe.
Anything more than that, I'd actually have to ask Bill.
BTW: you guys do realize that not only is Bill a member here, but that the Expert Playing Card Company has an official sticky topic in the Plethora? Right? And that there's an official "company rep" rank, with a company identity for EPCC, specifically created for answering questions and disseminating information about upcoming releases?
Sometimes I feel like I'm talking to myself around here... :))
I have actually said myself to Lawrence that there's lots of confusion over the differences between LPCC and EPCC but then I guess they'll still be working and collaborating quite a lot so it dies blur the lines a little. Don- don't forget actually the LUXX is European and being printed by Legends so it's not a hard and fast rule.
...which only goes to prove just how confusing the actual situation can seem at times!Don't you love Globalization? :-\
I can tell you this. If you were walking around in Taipei, stumbled upon this factory by sheer chance and asked in perfect Mandarin about placing an order for custom playing cards, you'd be referred to the Expert PCC on West 30th Street in New York.
...which only goes to prove just how confusing the actual situation can seem at times!Don't you love Globalization? :-\
I can tell you this. If you were walking around in Taipei, stumbled upon this factory by sheer chance and asked in perfect Mandarin about placing an order for custom playing cards, you'd be referred to the Expert PCC on West 30th Street in New York.
SPARKZ was kind enough to send me a sneak peek of Aquila: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQiuzNjwnI0
ha ha, then how come my reputation is still ZERO! :D No love... no love....
ugh! Fickle backers! It was up over 26K when I went to bed, and now it's under....
Almost to the 27,ooo.oo mark for the latest stretch goal. A little under 200.oo needed. If you were going to pledge this, don't forget, you only have 46 hours! Help push it to the next stretch goal! #Aquila #Kardify #3ofClubs
UPDATE: Aquila has started shipping :D
Really awesome looking decks!
I'm kicking myself for having been out of funds during the KS campaign, and during the pre-order time.
... and so unless the LPCC has a few for sale on their website in the near future, I'll be seeing only sky-high prices on eBay!
I like to hunt and see if I can discover it on my own first. If I fail, I'll definitely be asking for the key. ;)I asked for the key, but as it turns out they fail the riffle test.
I like to hunt and see if I can discover it on my own first. If I fail, I'll definitely be asking for the key. ;)I asked for the key, but as it turns out they fail the riffle test.
/bama
I like to hunt and see if I can discover it on my own first. If I fail, I'll definitely be asking for the key. ;)I asked for the key, but as it turns out they fail the riffle test.
/bama
Well that makes it easy, hahaha.
Don, the Madison Dealers definitely do fail the riffle test -- if they didn't, it would have taken my 9 year old cousin a lot longer than 7 or 8 seconds to spot the markings.
The only deck with a "readable" back design that I know of which truly passes the riffle test is the Sharps.
Going back to the Aquilla deck, even if it doesn't pass the riffle test, it's still really cool back design!
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The Kardify Projects Store is now open, we will be releasing a Forum Members Discount code on Cyber Monday " 1FORUM5" for 15% off your order :)Thanks the link did not work for me, but I found it anyway. Is this a Kardify Store or your own store? Thanks! :)
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