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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Playing Card Plethora => Topic started by: bhong on November 24, 2013, 08:06:27 PM
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Looks like there's a second deck that CARC is releasing this week: Legends V 2.0 - Metallic Black. Besides just the colour change, there's a deck, a cut out window where the diamond shape design is on the back of the card as well as some additional type on the box ("Superior Quality" on the front of the tuck as well as "Diamond Cut" and "Poker Size" on top of the tuck). It's hard to say with just the photo, but it looks like the tuckbox isn't laminated like the original Legends deck. Limited run of 1000 with CARC selling only 800 decks.
It's set to be released on Black Friday, which is fitting for a black coloured deck. I wonder who else is releasing a black coloured deck on Black Friday this year 'cause we've got two already.
http://shop.conjuringarts.org/store/pc/Legends-V-2-0-c145.htm
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It says Black Friday, I thought CARC was releasing there stuff on Thursday?
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I wonder if they're staggering their releases so you've got to buy both days since they've got two decks that are very limited with only 800 decks being sold though they're selling the Legends v 2.0 in a gross that could go pretty fast if someone has a lot of cash on their hand.
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I wonder if they're staggering their releases so you've got to buy both days since they've got two decks that are very limited with only 800 decks being sold though they're selling the Legends v 2.0 in a gross that could go pretty fast if someone has a lot of cash on their hand.
Shipping people... Thursday and Friday? Lets get it together CARC.
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I wonder if they're staggering their releases so you've got to buy both days since they've got two decks that are very limited with only 800 decks being sold though they're selling the Legends v 2.0 in a gross that could go pretty fast if someone has a lot of cash on their hand.
Shipping people... Thursday and Friday? Lets get it together CARC.
CARC's shipping prices tend to be constant in that it's not like you save on shipping when you buy more decks so whether you get things in one package or two, there's not that big of a savings. CARC's two new decks include shipping already in it.
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I wonder if they're staggering their releases so you've got to buy both days since they've got two decks that are very limited with only 800 decks being sold though they're selling the Legends v 2.0 in a gross that could go pretty fast if someone has a lot of cash on their hand.
Shipping people... Thursday and Friday? Lets get it together CARC.
CARC's shipping prices tend to be constant in that it's not like you save on shipping when you buy more decks so whether you get things in one package or two, there's not that big of a savings. CARC's two new decks include shipping already in it.
Its not a huge savings but its still a savings for combined shipping.
How can CARC allow someone to buy a gross if they are only selling 800? I would put a 2 brick limit for Black Friday? CARC wants lots of happy customers, not just a few dozen? Correct?
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I wonder if they're staggering their releases so you've got to buy both days since they've got two decks that are very limited with only 800 decks being sold though they're selling the Legends v 2.0 in a gross that could go pretty fast if someone has a lot of cash on their hand.
Shipping people... Thursday and Friday? Lets get it together CARC.
CARC's shipping prices tend to be constant in that it's not like you save on shipping when you buy more decks so whether you get things in one package or two, there's not that big of a savings. CARC's two new decks include shipping already in it.
Its not a huge savings but its still a savings for combined shipping.
How can CARC allow someone to buy a gross if they are only selling 800? I would put a 2 brick limit for Black Friday? CARC wants lots of happy customers, not just a few dozen? Correct?
I'm guessing CARC will only have one or two gross for sale. I'm sure they've got some way to divide up that 800 so it sells in the best way possible. 700$ for 144, who cheap, is still a lot of money to spend on a single deck whether it's to sit on for future value or resell.
I haven't noticed there's a huge savings for shipping for shopping at CARC. I'm in Canada and unless I buy in bricks, CARC's shipping tends to go "price of deck" + "shipping per item". So it could look like this:
3 Decks (7$/ deck) - 21$
Cost of shipping (9$/deck) x 3 - 27$
Total: 48$
Where as everyone else tends to go by small incremental increases with every deck you add so that the initial cost of 1 deck is expensive, but with every deck you add the overall average is cheaper. If it's 9$ to ship one deck, CARC just multiples that for every single deck.
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I saw a prototype of that box a while back but it wasn't black. I have to say that that particular deck looks great in black, actually a lot more sophisticated than the original colors. I've been playing with the Legends a lot lately and they are great handling cards, I like what CARC is putting together.
I think this is also the first instance of a custom die cut box since Aurum was released. :D
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It's hard to say with just the photo, but it looks like the tuckbox isn't laminated like the original Legends deck.
I'm about 90% sure that it is laminated. Don't ask how I know.
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No word on the manufacture? The tuck box looks like the Taiwan manufacture. BUT you never know (Shanghai).
I don't understand why CARC needs to have "supreme quality" on the front of the box. Who are they selling? Either you bought Legends before or you've heard about them from someone that owns them. Kind of ruins the tuck design.
I'm undecided.
It's hard to say with just the photo, but it looks like the tuckbox isn't laminated like the original Legends deck.
I'm about 90% sure that it is laminated. Don't ask how I know.
How do you know? lol
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I just picked up the 3 originals in a trade and was wondering the same thing about the "Supreme Quality" tag, lol.
That being said, the black is very appealing with this deck design and the tuck is fantastic.
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Seems like it's free US shipping on both decks so the two day trickle release only effects international buyers.
EDIT: I LOVE the originals so these are getting me very excited.
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I wasn't planning on buying much if anything on black friday. This has 100% changed my mind!
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In this case, to be honest i don't think the cut out benefits the aesthetics of the deck very much. Personally i would have preferred a standard tuck. There is not enough colour/pattern distinction between the black tuck and the black card back. With Paul's Aurum decks, the cut out was stunning and worked beautifully as there was a very clear contrast of colours. I just don't think the idea translated well in this case.
With that being said, the feel of the Legends is one of my favourite. I'm definitely interested in getting these. Would any American be kind enough to purchase an extra 1-2 as i'd rather not get raped by high International shipping fees =(
Too many good releases.. not enough moolah..
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In this case, to be honest i don't think the cut out benefits the aesthetics of the deck very much. Personally i would have preferred a standard tuck. There is not enough colour/pattern distinction between the black tuck and the black card back. With Paul's Aurum decks, the cut out was stunning and worked beautifully as there was a very clear contrast of colours. I just don't think the idea translated well in this case.
I agree. This doesn't have the same effect as what Paul did with his deck. I don't think it looks bad, but it just seems a bit unnecessary.
Nice to see another Legends deck though, they are awesome cards.
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No word on the manufacture? The tuck box looks like the Taiwan manufacture. BUT you never know (Shanghai).
I don't understand why CARC needs to have "supreme quality" on the front of the box. Who are they selling? Either you bought Legends before or you've heard about them from someone that owns them. Kind of ruins the tuck design.
I'm undecided.
It's hard to say with just the photo, but it looks like the tuckbox isn't laminated like the original Legends deck.
I'm about 90% sure that it is laminated. Don't ask how I know.
How do you know? lol
The same way I know they're from the same factory as the originals. Shh.
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No word on the manufacture? The tuck box looks like the Taiwan manufacture. BUT you never know (Shanghai).
I don't understand why CARC needs to have "supreme quality" on the front of the box. Who are they selling? Either you bought Legends before or you've heard about them from someone that owns them. Kind of ruins the tuck design.
I'm undecided.
It's hard to say with just the photo, but it looks like the tuckbox isn't laminated like the original Legends deck.
I'm about 90% sure that it is laminated. Don't ask how I know.
How do you know? lol
The same way I know they're from the same factory as the originals. Shh.
Good answer! Lol
In the Bat-cave again? Did you bring home some new toys for the utility belt? Lol
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In the Bat-cave again? Did you bring home some new toys for the utility belt? Lol
I've said too much!
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I love the style and tweaks to the second edition black. Nice to see a seal added to, i'm on the fence about the cut out until I see it for myself really.
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I love the style and tweaks to the second edition black. Nice to see a seal added to, i'm on the fence about the cut out until I see it for myself really.
I'm ok with the cut out. It actually has a function in this design of the tuck. They went with a black and silver tuck back and the cut out shows the actual true color of the cards, not Black and Silver.
The seal is nice, I like the added asian type on it. It's a little more exotic.
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I love the style and tweaks to the second edition black. Nice to see a seal added to, i'm on the fence about the cut out until I see it for myself really.
I'm ok with the cut out. It actually has a function in this design of the tuck. They went with a black and silver tuck back and the cut out shows the actual true color of the cards, not Black and Silver.
The seal is nice, I like the added asian type on it. It's a little more exotic.
The cutout reveals Lawrence Sullivan's "logo" on the back - and this time around, it's not mirrored!
The seal really resembles a classic tax stamp, though with three Chinese ideograms. The images below would most closely resemble the sticker used on this deck.
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I love the style and tweaks to the second edition black. Nice to see a seal added to, i'm on the fence about the cut out until I see it for myself really.
I'm ok with the cut out. It actually has a function in this design of the tuck. They went with a black and silver tuck back and the cut out shows the actual true color of the cards, not Black and Silver.
The seal is nice, I like the added asian type on it. It's a little more exotic.
The cutout reveals Lawrence Sullivan's "logo" on the back - and this time around, it's not mirrored!
The seal really resembles a classic tax stamp, though with three Chinese ideograms. The images below would most closely resemble the sticker used on this deck.
Not Mirrored as in a one way back?
Is that Chinese? You can see why I would be curious about the Shanghai swap. LS is a magician in Hong Kong so it makes sense it would be Chinese and NOT because of the manufacture used.
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I love the style and tweaks to the second edition black. Nice to see a seal added to, i'm on the fence about the cut out until I see it for myself really.
I'm ok with the cut out. It actually has a function in this design of the tuck. They went with a black and silver tuck back and the cut out shows the actual true color of the cards, not Black and Silver.
The seal is nice, I like the added asian type on it. It's a little more exotic.
The cutout reveals Lawrence Sullivan's "logo" on the back - and this time around, it's not mirrored!
The seal really resembles a classic tax stamp, though with three Chinese ideograms. The images below would most closely resemble the sticker used on this deck.
Not Mirrored as in a one way back?
Is that Chinese? You can see why I would be curious about the Shanghai swap. LS is a magician in Hong Kong so it makes sense it would be Chinese and NOT because of the manufacture used.
The original Legends was that subtle one way back design with the crescent shape mark (near the dragon wings) missing from one side of the deck.
It's Chinese on the seal, but I can't remember. I know enough to know it is, but not enough to read it. The seal does look really cool. I like all the extra Chinese characters on it to signify where the deck was made.
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Who wants to bet the ideograms mean Hong Kong?
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Who wants to bet the ideograms mean Hong Kong?
Hong Kong looks different in Chinese (it's two characters). I got a friend that can read Chinese to confirm it says "Poker" in Chinese characters.
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Who wants to bet the ideograms mean Hong Kong?
Hong Kong looks different in Chinese (it's two characters). I got a friend that can read Chinese to confirm it says "Poker" in Chinese characters.
Sensible enough, since it says "poker" in English just below it... (D'oh!)
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It looks like they've changed the release date to match the Exquisite. The Legends v 2.0 will be released on Thursday afternoon.
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Oh my god yes.
Yes.
Yes yes yes.
Did I mention yes?
My favorite non-USPCC deck ever released with a sweet box, and awesome tax seal, and black ink.
My wallet's going to be walking funny after this one.
And yeah. 扑克牌 (pūkèpái) is poker. It's also the word for a single playing card.
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Ok, wow! I really love that CARC has been trying out various manufacturers for playing cards. This Taipei company has done an excellent job with the Legends v.1 and now the Legends v.2 and Exquisite decks. They feel amazing, and only get better with use. The registration is dialed in perfectly, something that we don't quite get with USPCC (although they have gotten a little better with some of the decks I've seen recently). CARC + Sullivan + Stutzman = Exceptional (and Exquisite)
I'm also really enjoying these Pack Jackets. I expect this to being a new trend in the playing card markets.
Here are a couple pic I snapped today...more to come.
(http://distilleryimage6.ak.instagram.com/8f63649c562111e380340aca97abc920_7.jpg)
(http://distilleryimage4.ak.instagram.com/d446e194562911e38de012d09f741fb9_7.jpg)
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It looks like they've changed the release date to match the Exquisite. The Legends v 2.0 will be released on Thursday afternoon.
Yup, Thanks CARC!
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Must have. My favorite desk by far. Do we know what time these are being released?
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http://shop.conjuringarts.org/store/pc/Black-Friday-Super-Sale-c38.htm
CBJ
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I can also attest to the fact that they have hit upon a great combination here. Their latest products are extremely good, with some facets that (unfortunately) USPCC has not been able to reach yet. The art registration and edge quality is simply superb, there is no other way to state it. I riffled through an Exquisite and the art does not move at all. Not a hair. It is the way it should be, frankly, and very refreshing. Compared to my latest Deco deck, it's disheartening as a designer to look at them side by side.
While I'm not an expert cardist the handling on the latest decks is extremely good IMO. While the cards feel a little different from my USPCC decks, I think they are the equal in cut-ability, fan-ability and stock snappiness. (As an aside, I compared a 54-card stack of Exquisite to my of Bee Casino Deco and Deco is 3 cards thicker.) I'm very impressed on the whole.
As Chris said, the new pack jackets are very nice. While not a true card clip in the sense that it will squeeze your cards flat, if you are looking for a slim way to put a deck in your pocket and keep it flawless, you really can't beat them. The material feels great to the hand and is seriously strong. I tried to rip an edge and couldn't.
I know that CARC is somewhat of a smaller player compared to the hype-machines of T11 and D&D but Conjuring Arts are exploring new things and I find that very exciting. I'm considerably more jazzed about this stuff than something like the "nice but predictable" releases like a new JAQK color.
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I can also attest to the fact that they have hit upon a great combination here. Their latest products are extremely good, with some facets that (unfortunately) USPCC has not been able to reach yet. The art registration and edge quality is simply superb, there is no other way to state it. I riffled through an Exquisite and the art does not move at all. Not a hair. It is the way it should be, frankly, and very refreshing. Compared to my latest Deco deck, it's disheartening as a designer to look at them side by side.
While I'm not an expert cardist the handling on the latest decks is extremely good IMO. While the cards feel a little different from my USPCC decks, I think they are the equal in cut-ability, fan-ability and stock snappiness. (As an aside, I compared a 54-card stack of Exquisite to my of Bee Casino Deco and Deco is 3 cards thicker.) I'm very impressed on the whole.
As Chris said, the new pack jackets are very nice. While not a true card clip in the sense that it will squeeze your cards flat, if you are looking for a slim way to put a deck in your pocket and keep it flawless, you really can't beat them. The material feels great to the hand and is seriously strong. I tried to rip an edge and couldn't.
I know that CARC is somewhat of a smaller player compared to the hype-machines of T11 and D&D but Conjuring Arts are exploring new things and I find that very exciting. I'm considerably more jazzed about this stuff than something like the "nice but predictable" releases like a new JAQK color.
Are you talking just about the Exquisite deck? I'm a little confused...
Bill has mentioned to me that in his opinion, the Exquisites are a little bit better than the Legends. I'll know for myself soon enough; I'm visiting CARC tomorrow afternoon.
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Damn I was hoping that this deck was going to retain the characteristics of the V1s
Its sad to read that they are going to be normal decks....
I won't be buying those...
Also those anybody thinks that Blaine has been too quiet lately? Any chance he will do some kind of deal for this Black Friday?
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Damn I was hoping that this deck was going to retain the characteristics of the V1s
Its sad to read that they are going to be normal decks....
I won't be buying those...
Also those anybody thinks that Blaine has been too quiet lately? Any chance he will do some kind of deal for this Black Friday?
Like I said, Lawrence is trying to position the deck as a staple deck, for the everyman and not just for the magician. If every pack of Bicycle Rider Backs was marked, you wouldn't get too many legit card players using them, would you? :))
You know, if you look at the design, there's nothing stopping the inventive magician from altering a v2 Legends deck to have your own custom markings.... THAT would be a smart way to go on this, I think - knowing it's an unmarked deck at retail, few would suspect a pack of blacks to be marked, would they? It would be easier in some ways than marking a pack of Bikes.
Yes, Blaine has been quiet - but he ALWAYS is quiet. He doesn't start hyping until he's ready to start carpet-bombing... I don't think he'd have a new release for this weekend, but the holiday shopping season is still young. He might offer a sale, though.
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Several modest words about the first edition of Legends decks:
http://playingcardcollector.net/2013/11/28/legends-playing-cards-by-lawrence-sullivan/
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GO GRAB SOME NOW!! THEY ARE OUT!!
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Yep and so are the exquisites
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Got my SIX PACK ordered!
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Aaaaaand they're gone.
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That fast!?
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That fast!?
What, two-and-a-half hours? D&D probably sold out the S&Ms up to v6 in about that time!
There weren't that many on sale in the first place - I didn't think they'd last long.
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Well.....................................that sucks! :(
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Damn that was quick. I just got my Black Legends in the mail.
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Got these beautiful things in today. While I haven't used em to much, to busy with the Exquisite's :P. I can honestly say these are amazing. Based on first impressions I feel they are better than the first Legends. If you didn't get any I suggest you try getting at least 1 after market, You wont be disappointed!
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Got my 2 today and I just want to make sure of something. The one deck I opened had one Joker and one Blank. Is this expected? I know my V1's have two Jokers.
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Got my 2 today and I just want to make sure of something. The one deck I opened had one Joker and one Blank. Is this expected? I know my V1's have two Jokers.
I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere, but the deck I opened is the same flyers, one Joker and one blank.
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I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere, but the deck I opened is the same flyers, one Joker and one blank.
Thanks Sparkz.
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Got my 2 today and I just want to make sure of something. The one deck I opened had one Joker and one Blank. Is this expected? I know my V1's have two Jokers.
I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere, but the deck I opened is the same flyers, one Joker and one blank.
I posted that after talking about the sample decks I got in red and blue as well as the freebie I got from Bill Kalush in black.
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So I was shuffling through my deck and pulling some cards for scans on my collection site and noticed something on the Joker.
Aside from the reveal I missed, if you look at the smoke it seems to read "Ruby", is this just another reveal or is there some hidden meaning behind it? I noticed it's on the original Legends Joker as well.
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So I was shuffling through my deck and pulling some cards for scans on my collection site and noticed something on the Joker.
Aside from the reveal I missed, if you look at the smoke it seems to read "Ruby", is this just another reveal or is there some hidden meaning behind it? I noticed it's on the original Legends Joker as well.
Magicians call it a reveal. In Legends v1, there were two jokers, a "plain" one and this one with two reveals - "ruby" in the smoke and the Two of Spades in the dragons right hand (the plain joker shows the back of a card instead). You could try a little mentalism to force someone to think of the color (or person) Ruby, or you could do a card force to get a spectator to draw a Two of Spades, then use this joker to show off the reveal. The actual reveal can be accomplished a few ways, one popular one being a move called the Shapeshifter and another being stacking the plain joker above the gaffed joker on the back of the deck, showing the gaff, placing it back on the pack (while performing an Erdnase exchange to swap jokers) and finally have the spectator hold the card - it appears as if you "changed" the card in their hands.
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Looks like a new website for the Legends
"Check out www.legendsplayingcards.com
For some cool stuff when it launches in a month or so!
-Lawrence"
Thought I would share.
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So I was shuffling through my deck and pulling some cards for scans on my collection site and noticed something on the Joker.
Aside from the reveal I missed, if you look at the smoke it seems to read "Ruby", is this just another reveal or is there some hidden meaning behind it? I noticed it's on the original Legends Joker as well.
Magicians call it a reveal. In Legends v1, there were two jokers, a "plain" one and this one with two reveals - "ruby" in the smoke and the Two of Spades in the dragons right hand (the plain joker shows the back of a card instead). You could try a little mentalism to force someone to think of the color (or person) Ruby, or you could do a card force to get a spectator to draw a Two of Spades, then use this joker to show off the reveal. The actual reveal can be accomplished a few ways, one popular one being a move called the Shapeshifter and another being stacking the plain joker above the gaffed joker on the back of the deck, showing the gaff, placing it back on the pack (while performing an Erdnase exchange to swap jokers) and finally have the spectator hold the card - it appears as if you "changed" the card in their hands.
... and now I know what a reveal is. :D
I learn at least one new thing everyday while reading the forums. :)
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Soooo release date?
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Soooo release date?
The Black v2 Legends were released on the Thursday before Black Fridday.........and sold out. Your going to have to hit up the secondary market for these now, shouldn't be too hard to find though.
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Ment just the v2. Just got the email from carc
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Just saw this on Lawerence's site and remembered this thread.
Decipher the riddles and discover hidden secrets:
- One way to amaze is found on the tip of a wing
- Riffle to stoke the flames of fire
- In the heart of a blind man, the eight is king
- Dragons reveal smoke and rubies
- Pearl is to dragon as Koi is to waterfall
- Hearts are found split in the embers
- What language do computers understand?
- An Lámh Fhoisteanach Abú
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The new site is for Legends version three, due soon.
Just saw this on Lawerence's site and remembered this thread.
Decipher the riddles and discover hidden secrets:
- One way to amaze is found on the tip of a wing
- Riffle to stoke the flames of fire
- In the heart of a blind man, the eight is king
- Dragons reveal smoke and rubies
- Pearl is to dragon as Koi is to waterfall
- Hearts are found split in the embers
- What language do computers understand?
- An Lámh Fhoisteanach Abú
If you look in the topic for version 1 Legends, you'll see where we solve most of those riddles. And they really apply to version 1 more than anything else. That one bold-faced line is probably the only one that applies to version 2.