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Title: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: Evan on October 05, 2011, 09:55:37 PM
Mine is Ellusionist! Although I like T11, D&D, Blue Crown, and some others, Ellusionist is my all time favorite.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: loldudex2 on October 05, 2011, 09:57:38 PM
I'd say Theory11. Actually Ellusionist. Actually......I don't know. They are both amazing in their own ways.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: john on October 05, 2011, 10:01:41 PM
I don't they have all done things that make me laugh (v2 NOW WITH BORDER, More metallic in on V2, and 3 decks with different colors) but i have to go with Ellusionist because they can make great looking decks that handle well and for a long time, (sometimes *cough* 1800's *cough*).
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: Evan on October 05, 2011, 10:26:50 PM
I agree 100%. The other sites are great but Ellusionist is just better in my opinion.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: loldudex2 on October 05, 2011, 10:34:56 PM
Yah. Dan and Dave also has REALLY nice things. I don't get why they sell nail-clippers though.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: Evan on October 05, 2011, 10:38:30 PM
Yea its kinda odd... But they're decks are amazing.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: john on October 05, 2011, 10:40:47 PM
They clump a little after about 20 hours of use but they still are very very nice decks.

But once again i think E is the best because almost all E decks can be bought at any time while D&D decks can only be bought at release or for more money after they sell out.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: Evan on October 05, 2011, 10:43:14 PM
Yea I wish dan and dave made a continually printed deck.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: Gunshy1 on October 05, 2011, 11:28:53 PM
I'd also have to go with E like most other people here because the simple fact that they continually print there decks. I LOVE the artifice deck, and i am so happy that i dont have to worry about rushing to get a couple bricks before they sell out.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: loldudex2 on October 05, 2011, 11:32:26 PM
I'd also have to go with E like most other people here because the simple fact that they continually print there decks. I LOVE the artifice deck, and i am so happy that i dont have to worry about rushing to get a couple bricks before they sell out.

Too bad the original Artifice cards are sold out and out of print.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: Gunshy1 on October 05, 2011, 11:40:51 PM
I'd also have to go with E like most other people here because the simple fact that they continually print there decks. I LOVE the artifice deck, and i am so happy that i dont have to worry about rushing to get a couple bricks before they sell out.

Too bad the original Artifice cards are sold out and out of print.

I somewhat agree. they visually looked better but it made some tricks flat out impossible, and I personally hated how the edges get marked up. The V1's looked amazing for cardistry though.

 I applaud E for listening to their customers, and still maintaining the elegance of the cards.

they said on their forums today that they wouldnt be making a red V2... ya i dont believe them, but that's what they said.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: Mrmagic on October 05, 2011, 11:50:38 PM
Ellusionist makes great decks.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: junjie04 on October 06, 2011, 01:22:35 AM
Each got their con and pros
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: phantom1412 on October 06, 2011, 03:38:47 AM
Ellusionist for the design of the cards
D&D for the skill of them
Theory11 for the tricks
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: theaceofskates on October 06, 2011, 05:08:00 AM
Personally, I prefer the wire. I qualify it as it's own little thing, even though it is a theory 11 thing.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: Mrmagic on October 06, 2011, 09:20:32 AM
i believe your right phantom
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: Evan on October 06, 2011, 02:55:43 PM
I agree with Phantom but I feel that Ellusionist has very good tricks too so T11 isn't better.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: sinsandman on October 06, 2011, 05:39:09 PM
I am going to go with D&D for classy decks and E for mystery.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: RF on October 09, 2011, 12:49:21 PM
I can't really decide, T11 has some great things like the Wire or The Insider Episodes, Ellusionist has some awesome decks that are a must have, and Dan and Dave has just awesome cards and tricks
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: RF on October 09, 2011, 12:50:29 PM
I'd also have to go with E like most other people here because the simple fact that they continually print there decks. I LOVE the artifice deck, and i am so happy that i dont have to worry about rushing to get a couple bricks before they sell out.

Too bad the original Artifice cards are sold out and out of print.

That's why I picked up some more when I heard that the v2 will have a border  ;)
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: vmagic on October 09, 2011, 01:40:47 PM
They're all good but I like Blue Crown because at least they don't crash when they release new decks!
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: Evan on October 09, 2011, 04:02:42 PM
They're all good but I like Blue Crown because at least they don't crash when they release new decks!
The reason they don't crash is because they aren't nearly as popular as the other sites
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: RF on October 09, 2011, 04:14:01 PM
The reason they don't crash is because they aren't nearly as popular as the other sites

how many crown decks were printed?
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: Evan on October 09, 2011, 05:17:51 PM
how many crown decks were printed?
I don't know but its probably a few thousand
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: phantom1412 on October 09, 2011, 06:22:18 PM
I don't know but its probably a few thousand

Red and blue is 5k each I think.
Green might be 10k
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: RF on October 09, 2011, 06:26:42 PM
Red and blue is 5k each I think.
Green might be 10k

ah ok thanks ;)
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: Evan on October 09, 2011, 09:36:57 PM
I don't think Green was 10k. It sold out in 23 minutes.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: john on October 09, 2011, 09:39:24 PM
There is no information on how many crowns were printed, nor will the blue crown tell you, i tried.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: Evan on October 09, 2011, 09:51:38 PM
There is no information on how many crowns were printed, nor will the blue crown tell you, i tried.
I hate when they don't tell us that.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: john on October 09, 2011, 10:08:21 PM
I hate when they don't tell us that.

Well you know why they do that don't you, its so they can say "limited and rare" when in reality it isn't.  Which is why i like when AetherCards or Lance T Miller for example telling you how many decks are made, and Lance taking it to an extreme by numbering each deck.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: phantom1412 on October 09, 2011, 10:26:37 PM
Let's look at the other side.
By telling people how many were made might affect the price of the sold out deck for the resellers.
So, maybe we should consider that people who are buying it, buy it because of the look and feel of the deck and for resell, then why is the point of knowing how many were made.

(However I still wanna know too)
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: john on October 09, 2011, 10:33:04 PM
Let's look at the other side.
By telling people how many were made might affect the price of the sold out deck for the resellers.
So, maybe we should consider that people who are buying it, buy it because of the look and feel of the deck and for resell, then why is the point of knowing how many were made.

(However I still wanna know too)

The point of knowing how many are made is to know whether it's some mass produced crappy bike deck or a nice amazing deck. IMO
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: D_bag on October 09, 2011, 11:15:32 PM
I used to like theory11 until they sold out of the black centurions  >:(

I like ellusionist's logos and t-shirts though  :)
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: phantom1412 on October 10, 2011, 05:13:45 AM
I used to like theory11 until they sold out of the black centurions  >:(

I like ellusionist's logos and t-shirts though  :)

THe black centurions are still out there.
I can find about $10 at Japan, but I didn't order yet cause the shipping cause about $8
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: sinsandman on October 20, 2011, 09:23:48 AM
I like that BC has a solid site with solid servers but E decks have more appeal and better handling. As does DD
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: junjie04 on November 10, 2011, 09:54:32 AM
I like that BC has a solid site with solid servers but E decks have more appeal and better handling. As does DD

I have handle the arcane and the finish didn't last long..
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: LauR on November 10, 2011, 10:40:33 AM
The v6's handle very well, as do most of the other smoke and mirrors. I like them better than arcanes because they're lighter and more flexible, arcanes are still pretty solid though.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: Paul Carpenter on November 10, 2011, 10:48:49 AM
I started off in this card business pretty recently with Theory11. I still think the Sentinels are gorgeous, just love the design, but if I look at my stack of decks and which ones handle the best, I think I have to go with Ellusionist. The Artifice, Tally Ho Vipers and Arcanes just work amazing for me. I only have one D&D deck, Fantastique and those handle nicely but tend to get slightly more bendy than the Ellusionist cards.

Luckily, we have so many awesome choices these days with so many cool projects, especially from the small guys like Vortex, Seasons, Mana, Actuators etc. The big dogs are going to have to step it up to stay at the top.
Title: Re: Which is your favorite? Ellusionist, Theory11, Dan and Dave, or Other?
Post by: Don Boyer on November 12, 2011, 06:02:49 AM
D&D: nice simple design on the later decks.  Just not many decks offered, and all of them limited editions.  I LOVED the special pro-cut stripper decks they were selling, with a stripped edge angle so shallow a pro card worker would have a very hard time spotting them in action; I regret not getting the red Bees before they sold out.  But their library - I'm drooling over many of the books they offer.

Theory 11: They have some great designs.  Among my favorite decks from them would be the Guardians (they're one of my "go-to" decks now) and Propaganda (gotta love that Tally-Ho stock).

Ellusionist: they were my first - it's because of them (curse them!) that I got into magic and card collecting less than a year ago.  What can I say, I love their stuff, and their Brad Christian videos, cheesy as they can be at times, do provide some good basics for the beginning magician.

David Blaine: his decks are good.  My always-in-my-pocket stripper deck is his "Discover Magic" deck - imagine having a pack of blue Split Spades Lions that's still available for as little as $5?!?  And they're STRIPPERS, too!  His other designs are great stuff and I like some of the special deals with the signed decks and stuff - whenever his designs sell out, he's usually offering some with autographs at slightly higher prices.  It's cool to whip out a deck signed by a major magic talent, no?

Retailers/after-market?  My faves are BMPokerworld and The1EyedJack.  They get damn near everything I want and sometimes the prices are pretty sweet.  Plus I've been doing some trades with One-Eye; he sounds like a nice guy.