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Title: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: see_squared on August 19, 2013, 12:33:00 PM
Mark Hoppus of Blink 182 has a pretty sweet thing started called "Hi My Name Is Mark."   Clothing, art, accessories, etc....and now playing cards.  In one of his email newsletters...this image was attached. 

Pretty nice looking cards if you ask me. 
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: PrincessTrouble on August 19, 2013, 02:03:16 PM
Looks cool.  I wonder if it's a Dan & Dave project...
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: Card Player on August 19, 2013, 04:22:24 PM
Another Octopus, Yay!!

I understand steamboats but what's with all the nautical & water theme decks? Paper playing cards are the most none water item you can own. Are people really that fascinated with getting their cards wet?
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: WhySoSerious12 on August 19, 2013, 06:19:19 PM
Mark Hoppus of Blink 182 has a pretty sweet thing started called "Hi My Name Is Mark."   Clothing, art, accessories, etc....and now playing cards.  In one of his email newsletters...this image was attached. 

Pretty nice looking cards if you ask me. 

anymore update regarding the deck? look pretty nice for me too
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: see_squared on August 20, 2013, 11:05:03 PM
I don't think anyone with nautical themed decks are using them in the water....some folks on UC had the same question though...why nautical and why octopus?  I have no idea but Kraken Rum uses an Octopus in their products (for obvious reasons). A similar Octopus was seen in the Stranger & Stranger Ultimate Deck released by Dan & Dave...S&S designed the packaging for Kraken Rum.

Here's some insight as to why this deck features a nautical theme with an octopus: http://www.himynameismark.com/pages/about
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: ronyo_faukx on October 01, 2013, 03:39:47 PM
Another Octopus, Yay!!

I understand steamboats but what's with all the nautical & water theme decks? Paper playing cards are the most none water item you can own. Are people really that fascinated with getting their cards wet?

I think it's one of those 'unattainable' things. People become obsessed with things they can't do, and what could be more attractive to alot of collectors and magicians than a deck that looks wet, or give the impression that it could be made wet without being affected.

The same goes with the 'Ignite' deck. "Paper cannot be made wet and burns REALLY well, so let's make decks that are associated with water and fire!" And so, the 'Fathom' and 'Ignite' decks were born!
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on October 01, 2013, 07:40:05 PM
Another Octopus, Yay!!

I understand steamboats but what's with all the nautical & water theme decks? Paper playing cards are the most none water item you can own. Are people really that fascinated with getting their cards wet?

I think it's one of those 'unattainable' things. People become obsessed with things they can't do, and what could be more attractive to alot of collectors and magicians than a deck that looks wet, or give the impression that it could be made wet without being affected.

The same goes with the 'Ignite' deck. "Paper cannot be made wet and burns REALLY well, so let's make decks that are associated with water and fire!" And so, the 'Fathom' and 'Ignite' decks were born!

I don't know about the water, but with the proper application of flash paper, and deck can "burn"...
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: Firdawesome on December 15, 2013, 08:54:09 AM
I'm lovin' these... More images from http://www.himynameismark.com/ (http://www.himynameismark.com/):

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0193/8039/t/4/assets/slideshow_3.jpg?3485)
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0193/8039/files/D_d-sneak.jpg?3414)
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: Anthony on December 15, 2013, 10:31:44 AM
I was wondering if these would ever see the light of day, have Marks site bookmarked and I take a quick peek now and then. I kind of like them, interested in seeing the courts.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: MrMollusk on December 15, 2013, 08:58:06 PM
I'm loving what I see so far.

This might be a chance for D&D to pull themselves out of their designing slump.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: HandSkillz on December 15, 2013, 10:44:54 PM
I really like the fathoms, this looks to be a more traditional version.  As for D&D, I was very happy with the handling of the Bruce Lee's (though upset they're one ways), but I haven't seen a release from them I've liked in a while.  They noted in a coffee session that they have a replacement to S&M coming...at some point...we'll have to see what that brings.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on December 16, 2013, 12:12:45 AM
They noted in a coffee session that they have a replacement to S&M coming...at some point...we'll have to see what that brings.

I can see it now...  Ladies and gentlemen, I proudly present...  MIRRORS AND SMOKE!   :))

Or perhaps they're making a new Fulton deck and decided to take one of my suggestions (http://aethercards.com/discourse/playing-card-plethora/(new)-fulton-deck-dan-and-dave/msg79662/#msg79662)...
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: BiggerDee on December 16, 2013, 11:22:39 AM
Just on principle, I haven't bought any nautical or water decks since my submarine was repossessed.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: see_squared on January 30, 2014, 06:18:41 PM
02/04/14
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: MrMollusk on January 30, 2014, 09:52:42 PM
It's happening.

http://instagram.com/p/jzJGLzPGU4/

(http://i.imgur.com/ZdZLKV4.jpg)
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: doubledouble on January 30, 2014, 11:11:09 PM
i want these. so bad. picking up a brick
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: kdklown on January 31, 2014, 12:06:32 AM
Just got it in the mail.  It's this months DOTM.  Two months in a row, solid gets from this club.   :D
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: vmagic on January 31, 2014, 12:13:55 AM
Too bad Dan & Dave are too cheap to let non-Anericans get memberships! I guess they don't want our money!
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: rousselle on January 31, 2014, 12:15:21 AM
Just got it in the mail.  It's this months DOTM.  Two months in a row, solid gets from this club.   :D

What was the previous DOTM?

I'm not enthusiastic about the HMNIM cards. After the glut of cthulu decks, I'm kinda tentacled out....
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: kdklown on January 31, 2014, 12:34:59 AM
Last month was the (yet to be released but I probably just jinxed it) D&D Private Reserve.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: doubledouble on January 31, 2014, 12:37:14 AM
kd, can you take some pics if you are opening the deck? If not, some more pictures of the tuck would be great too!
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: kdklown on January 31, 2014, 12:54:27 AM
I don't open the majority of my decks but here are some pics of the tuck.  Also the anchors on the back and everything on the front is embossed.  I'm not sure how it looks in the picture but the seal is gold.  Long side of the tuck is repeated thus only pictured once.  Hope that helps. 

(http://i.imgur.com/K07oBill.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/EGFxSfOl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/uVNsXAVl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/UoRl7y2l.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/kWfu9sml.jpg)
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: chach on January 31, 2014, 03:26:06 AM
Looks like an awesome deck, I haven't bought anything from D$D in a long time.  This will probably break the streak.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: Wilko on January 31, 2014, 05:23:54 AM
THIS.


Too bad Dan & Dave are too cheap to let non-Anericans get memberships! I guess they don't want our money!
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: Strag on January 31, 2014, 07:40:04 AM
THIS.


Too bad Dan & Dave are too cheap to let non-Anericans get memberships! I guess they don't want our money!
Just think what they would have to charge for shipping!  Probably more than the membership cost for the decks.  In this one case (and only this one) I understand where D$D are coming from.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on January 31, 2014, 11:38:22 AM
Too bad Dan & Dave are too cheap to let non-Anericans get memberships! I guess they don't want our money!

Wait - they're cheap...but they DON'T want your money?  Sounds like a contradiction, Victor.

If you're so distressed about the situation, perhaps you should do what smart "non-Anericans" do and use an order consolidation service with a US address.

BTW: got a quick look at these yesterday at CARC.  It's a nice-looking deck, better than I thought it would be.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: DarkDerp on January 31, 2014, 12:08:26 PM
Wait.. Produced and Manufactured by D&D?  I thought they did all there printing with USPCC.  ???
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on January 31, 2014, 12:21:45 PM
Wait.. Produced and Manufactured by D&D?  I thought they did all there printing with USPCC.  ???

There have been a few USPC decks that don't have USPC markings on the box.  It's marked as made in the USA, so it's a near-certainty that USPC did the "making".
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: DarkDerp on January 31, 2014, 01:07:09 PM
I dislike their marketing rhetoric.

Everything is a limited edition. Never to be reprinted in that color at least
Everything the greatest yet
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Every detail  reexamined, refined and carefully produced. From the paper stock, to new artwork and even a custom seal that is perforated along the box crescent to more easily open the cards. Nothing was left out. perfect.
... as opposed to the normal half heartily produced,  pipless, printed on a used pizza box, wrapped in a garbage bag, and sealed with duct tape decks I normally buy i guess. 

$9.95 "mystery" decks from a "private reserve"
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featuring rare, vintage, out of print, or otherwise valuable decks worth money
   the best part is that they are packaged when ordered. 

Even the forum.
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For the past six months we have been developing an entirely new forum platform. We literally started with a blank slate!
... um its forumparrot guys.

I like a lot of the decks.. but come on!! Tone it down a bit.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: HandSkillz on January 31, 2014, 01:09:48 PM
If you don't want the box you just won from Nurul with all the D&D cards I would be happy to take it off of your hands ;)
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: BiggerDee on January 31, 2014, 02:04:27 PM
I must be missing something on the appeal of these. They look ok, just ok, to me. They look like a standard deck with an octopus instead of a bicycle. I dunno.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: DarkDerp on January 31, 2014, 02:32:29 PM
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If you don't want the box you just won from Nurul with all the D&D cards I would be happy to take it off of your hands  :mindf-ck:
NOOO!! I like the cards, hate the marketing.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on February 01, 2014, 12:37:49 AM
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If you don't want the box you just won from Nurul with all the D&D cards I would be happy to take it off of your hands  :mindf-ck:
NOOO!! I like the cards, hate the marketing.

Say what you will about Dan and Dave, but they are indeed businessmen.  They do lay it on a bit thick at times, but they have (at least for now) a rabid group of fans that buy practically anything they make.  It looks like rather than trying to fool all of the people some of the time, they're focused on fooling some of the people all of the time!
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: MrMollusk on February 01, 2014, 01:23:15 PM
The deck looks awesome. But, then again, I thought the same about the Fulton's October before I saw the repeating courts. I might pick up a few if it shapes up to be a nice deck.

Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: CBJ on February 03, 2014, 08:33:22 AM
Hey guys

these will be released tomorrow.  9am PST ( noon EST )


(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/1_zpsd4004aed.jpg)


(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/2_zps56531ab8.jpg)


(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/3_zpsc25685c1.jpg)


(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/4_zps3b40164d.jpg)


(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/5_zps225b7651.jpg)



CBJ
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: splice42 on February 03, 2014, 11:13:22 AM
I like them, but my name's not Mark. Oh well.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: Yashi on February 03, 2014, 11:40:26 AM
It's killing me. I want to see the courts!  >:(
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: Anthony on February 03, 2014, 12:09:05 PM
Hmmm, maybe it's just me, but they sure are pushing the back design  ::)
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: th4mo on February 03, 2014, 01:27:28 PM
It's killing me. I want to see the courts!  >:(

One thing i've learned the hard way...
If they* don't show you the courts in all these hyped up ads, 99.99% of the time they are nothing special. Probably standard, or perhaps recolored standard.

*and "they" isn't just D$D, it's EVERY single card manufacturer out there. It makes sense, though. because there's no way they are going to put the time and effort into custom courts, and then not exploit those features in their ads...

Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: bhong on February 03, 2014, 02:06:37 PM
It's killing me. I want to see the courts!  >:(

One thing i've learned the hard way...
If they* don't show you the courts in all these hyped up ads, 99.99% of the time they are nothing special. Probably standard, or perhaps recolored standard.

*and "they" isn't just D$D, it's EVERY single card manufacturer out there. It makes sense, though. because there's no way they are going to put the time and effort into custom courts, and then not exploit those features in their ads...



That's probably the best thought to have, th4mo, as most companies are smart enough to always push what's "special" about their product.

The best I could find was this crop picture of the uncut sheets from HMNIM blog. It looks like all the Aces might be the same design, except pip changes and I think they'll reuse the border, they used for the AoS, for all the court cards.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: DarkDerp on February 03, 2014, 02:37:41 PM
(http://s11.postimg.org/pt5fi9dlb/Screen_Shot_2014_02_03_at_2_24_14_PM.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/pt5fi9dlb/)
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: th4mo on February 03, 2014, 03:22:01 PM
(http://s11.postimg.org/pt5fi9dlb/Screen_Shot_2014_02_03_at_2_24_14_PM.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/pt5fi9dlb/)

Well, i'll be darned... looks like this could be the .01% exception to the rule...

They must be going for a very slow reveal on this deck.

As for the courts... not so much a fan of one way, or monochrome, so i guess it's a pass for me anyway.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: bhong on February 03, 2014, 03:49:56 PM
Just to play the other side of a moment, they could do what they did with Fulton's October and just repeat all the Jack, Queen and King for all the court cards. Although, if they did that, at least it'd be better than just having one different King for KoH.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: DarkDerp on February 03, 2014, 04:28:28 PM
two more (http://s15.postimg.org/4h32sv4fr/130ebd6889f411e3802612986f7fd881_8.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4h32sv4fr/)(http://s8.postimg.org/luvu1wv41/Screen_Shot_2014_02_03_at_4_19_22_PM.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/luvu1wv41/)

The Aces are all the same so I would lean towards.. meh.
According to Dan and Dave they have a wavy gold metallic background on all the faces, a gold treasure map printed inside the Tuck box..  and they are the greatest deck ever put out by UPCC.. and their favorite deck..
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: chess on February 03, 2014, 07:06:50 PM
I'm gonna pass on these.  I don't want a repeat of the October deck.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: Aptombstone on February 03, 2014, 07:37:40 PM
Despite having one way courts which I don't like, the back design, box and ace design, coupled with the fact that I liked blink-182 as a kid make this a purchase for me.

I emailed HMNIM and they said a limited amount of cards, possibly 2500 were produced. Further more, they'd actually only be selling a third of those on the website; the rest would belong to Dan and Dave.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: Yashi on February 03, 2014, 09:09:06 PM
The aces are a shame and I hope the courts don't repeat. I might get one for the treasure map printed in the tuckbox.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: badpete69 on February 04, 2014, 12:03:29 PM
Picked up a couple. A little more expensive than I thought but not bad i guess
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: Anthony on February 04, 2014, 12:40:22 PM
Well I like the tuck, Jokers and Aces and if they were a little less expensive I may have grabbed a couple. But for $12 a pop I have other options on my wanted list. Maybe I'll pick a few up in trade in time. I'm sure they'll do well either way.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: jwats01 on February 04, 2014, 02:27:08 PM
I was gonna pickup 2, but shipping was $15.38 to PA. They really need to work on lowering their shipping costs. That's another pack of cards Oh well. I am going to pass right now. Maybe they'll still be around when my want list is shorter. Thanks to the OP.

Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: badpete69 on February 04, 2014, 02:32:04 PM
$15.38?? was that the cheapest option?  They charged me $7 shipping for 3 decks to WA
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: Anthony on February 04, 2014, 05:06:07 PM
I was gonna pickup 2, but shipping was $15.38 to PA. They really need to work on lowering their shipping costs. That's another pack of cards Oh well. I am going to pass right now. Maybe they'll still be around when my want list is shorter. Thanks to the OP.

You might want to check again J, I put in 2 decks just to see what the shipping was and it was $4.79 for First Class and $8.20 for 2 Day Priority to Illinois.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: vmagic on February 04, 2014, 07:45:27 PM
I was gonna pickup 2, but shipping was $15.38 to PA. They really need to work on lowering their shipping costs. That's another pack of cards Oh well. I am going to pass right now. Maybe they'll still be around when my want list is shorter. Thanks to the OP.

Nevermind the shipping, $12 for a deck is rather expensive itself. If Theory11 can sell decks for $6.95 each, how can Dan & Dave justify almost double the price?

As for the repeating court cards, from what I can tell at least it is slightly different from red to black courts.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: bhong on February 04, 2014, 08:08:59 PM
I was gonna pickup 2, but shipping was $15.38 to PA. They really need to work on lowering their shipping costs. That's another pack of cards Oh well. I am going to pass right now. Maybe they'll still be around when my want list is shorter. Thanks to the OP.

Nevermind the shipping, $12 for a deck is rather expensive itself. If Theory11 can sell decks for $6.95 each, how can Dan & Dave justify almost double the price?

As for the repeating court cards, from what I can tell at least it is slightly different from red to black courts.

I'd imagine the higher cost is probably due to paying an illustrator plus the fact that it's D&D and HMNIM working together not to mention some of the extras put into the deck like printing inside the tuckcase. Sort of how the Bruce Lee deck cost 15$ as there was probably royalties paid to the Bruce Lee Foundation.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: DarkDerp on February 04, 2014, 11:01:30 PM
I was gonna pickup 2, but shipping was $15.38 to PA. They really need to work on lowering their shipping costs. That's another pack of cards Oh well. I am going to pass right now. Maybe they'll still be around when my want list is shorter. Thanks to the OP.

Nevermind the shipping, $12 for a deck is rather expensive itself. If Theory11 can sell decks for $6.95 each, how can Dan & Dave justify almost double the price?

As for the repeating court cards, from what I can tell at least it is slightly different from red to black courts.


and here is your answer (http://s30.postimg.org/hkvmmwtxp/Sheet1_1024x1024_jpg_v_1391045805.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/hkvmmwtxp/)  Click for larger image
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on February 05, 2014, 01:21:15 AM
The courts are mostly repeating.  There appears to be a single image for all the queens, one different king and three identical ones, and finally a pair of matched pairs for the Jacks.  Even then, the differences are pretty slight - a turned head, really, and not much else.

I'm tired of lazy design work.  If you're that much of a slacker, just use the standard courts and call it a day; don't make a half-assed effort at something "custom" that looks like it was half-finished and rushed to press.  This looks like somebody phoned it in.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: th4mo on February 05, 2014, 03:21:00 AM
The courts are mostly repeating.  There appears to be a single image for all the queens, one different king and three identical ones, and finally a pair of matched pairs for the Jacks.  Even then, the differences are pretty slight - a turned head, really, and not much else.

I'm tired of lazy design work.  If you're that much of a slacker, just use the standard courts and call it a day; don't make a half-assed effort at something "custom" that looks like it was half-finished and rushed to press.  This looks like somebody phoned it in.

Look a little closer at the kings and you'll notice the KoH is a suicide king (the trident goes through his head), and the KoD has his head turned to be a One-eyed King. The two black kings are identical to each other.

Similarly, two of the Jacks (JoH, JoS) have their heads turned to be one-eyed, while the other two have both eyes showing, but are otherwise identical.

The queens are all identical to each other.

So, the absolute minimum differentiation to follow the most popular "wild card" conventions, and nothing more...

Still... Lazy Lazy Lazy!!!  >:(


 
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: ozfan30 on February 05, 2014, 05:51:23 AM
I agree with everyone's comments about lazy designs and it is annoying when there is repeating courts. I dont think it will stop since they know they will sell the 2.5k they printed. Especially when those who complain still buy them (I am guilty of this, not meant to shame anyone). I am hoping the tuck looks cool in person.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on February 05, 2014, 06:25:59 AM
I agree with everyone's comments about lazy designs and it is annoying when there is repeating courts. I dont think it will stop since they know they will sell the 2.5k they printed. Especially when those who complain still buy them (I am guilty of this, not meant to shame anyone). I am hoping the tuck looks cool in person.

Welcome aboard, Ozfan!

I think it is taking a toll on them to some extent, and has been for a little while.  D&D are known for the success of the S&M deck series.  On only two occasions have they ever announced the size of a print run: Fulton's Chinatown (5,000) and S&M version 7 (10,000).  FC took, what, four months to sell out?  And the last time I looked, S&Mv7 is still on sale, though the "Carbon Copy" portion of the series is long gone.  Understandable since it was much more limited, fewer than 1,000.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: 10ofclubs on February 05, 2014, 04:23:58 PM
I think it's a shame the courts repeat, just like the rest of you, but not because the design is lazy. If you were to show me just one king, queen, and jack I'd say the deck looked awesome. The deck had the potential to be really awesome but kind of fell flat.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: BiggerDee on February 06, 2014, 10:25:22 AM
The back design is interesting in the uncut format, so I bought one of those to hang on the wall with my other uncuts. I also bought a deck just to have one in my collection, but that's about as excited as I could get.

Art of Play was hinting yesterday that D&D (of which they are a division) is almost sold out, or that's the rumor that they supposedly heard, but in the same breath they also noted that they hafd them in their inventory. Scare marketing? Divide them up, sell out in the main division so that the "SOLD OUT!!!" claim can be made, but still have them in the other division? Just speculation and thinking out loud on my part. For the record, I like Art of Play. They have a lot available and get them to me much quicker than their parent division does.
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: Anthony on February 21, 2014, 06:33:01 AM
Now available on D&D and AoP
Title: Re: HMNIM Playing Cards
Post by: bhong on February 21, 2014, 07:49:20 AM

Art of Play was hinting yesterday that D&D (of which they are a division) is almost sold out, or that's the rumor that they supposedly heard, but in the same breath they also noted that they hafd them in their inventory. Scare marketing? Divide them up, sell out in the main division so that the "SOLD OUT!!!" claim can be made, but still have them in the other division? Just speculation and thinking out loud on my part. For the record, I like Art of Play. They have a lot available and get them to me much quicker than their parent division does.

If that is their strategy, I can't fault them for it. It's a good one 'cause it does work. For something that's for collecting, it's always best to make it as scarce. You always want less supply than demand to help boast the value of the product.

There's a lot of elements of the HMNIM deck that's interesting. Just not enough for me to grab at the price that it's sold at.