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Title: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: Magic_Orthodoxy on July 18, 2013, 03:42:38 PM
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link: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/785750899/radical-80s-playing-cards-by-bicycle?ref=search

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Ok, now pick the title of an 80's Movie or TV show to describe your 1st impression or overall thoughts....
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: jmrock on July 18, 2013, 06:59:42 PM
I'll go with Nightmare on Elm Street...
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: Loop Cuts on July 18, 2013, 07:42:05 PM
“They float, they all float... and when you're down here, you'll float too.”

"It"  :mindf-ck:
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: Magic_Orthodoxy on July 18, 2013, 08:12:35 PM
oh FAIL Robert!

IT came out in 1990
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: Bill Collins on July 18, 2013, 08:56:43 PM
Not my cup of tea, I'll pass
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: Loop Cuts on July 18, 2013, 08:59:27 PM
oh FAIL Robert!

IT came out in 1990

Yeah but the book was written in 1986  :D
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on July 18, 2013, 11:10:33 PM
Hey, Magic_O, did you notice something weird about some of the images?  They look like they're poorly-converted CMYK images or something - they look like negatives.

As far as movie from the '80s to describe this?

Take any slasher film of the period, have it rape a romantic comedy with computers in it and this would be the bastard child of said union...
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: MrMollusk on July 19, 2013, 02:19:25 AM
"Mother pus bucket!"


(Ghostbusters? Anyone? Anyone?)
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: Alex Willis on July 19, 2013, 08:05:08 AM
Oh my god no!
 - Valley Girl with his first appearance... Mr. Nicholas Cage

Rubik licensing permission?  He's also going to need permission from Polaroid and Sony.   And where are the dayglo cirles, triangles and squiggly lines?  Digital clock numbers are okay for the indices, I get that but this could have been done so much better.  I not only live through the 80's, I lived the 80s! 
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: Magic_Orthodoxy on July 19, 2013, 08:52:17 AM
< graduated HS in 1986

Yea, with a theme like the 80s there is so much you could do. Does anyone else think the VCR tape looks like cop and paste? I mean that was the style of the 80s so I can't complain, but pick a design style and stick to it. This deck is too convoluted for my taste. And their goal is too low, they won't be able to fulfill their promises unless they beat their goal by a few thousand.
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: Bill Collins on July 19, 2013, 11:18:13 AM
< graduated HS in 1986

Yea, with a theme like the 80s there is so much you could do. Does anyone else think the VCR tape looks like cop and paste? I mean that was the style of the 80s so I can't complain, but pick a design style and stick to it. This deck is too convoluted for my taste. And their goal is too low, they won't be able to fulfill their promises unless they beat their goal by a few thousand.

the Polaroid looks the same way, Copy n Paste.
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: Alex Willis on July 19, 2013, 02:26:18 PM
I pledged on the deck for no other reason than to have cards that do this....
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: GBAllison on July 19, 2013, 03:25:04 PM
OK, I'll admit that absolutely nothing about this deck appeals to me--black background, wrong-colored suits, the numbers, the colors blah blah blah.

However, I *love* that the artist used standard court-drawing conventions (the line-drawn curly hair) to produce very unconventional looks.  The mohawk done with standard-king-hair artwork?  Very cool.  The guitar, the headband, the shades?  Love 'em all.

But then he goes and does photoshop for the hat, the drumsticks and the boombox?  Very disappointing.

80's movie for this deck ... The Man With Two Brains.
80's movie quote that somehow fits ... Nobody puts Baby in a corner.
Or maybe this ... Heeere's Johnny!
Of course this works perfectly ... I am serious.  And don't call me Shirley.
But this is the line I'd *like* to use ... Say hello to my little friend!

:-)
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: MrMollusk on July 19, 2013, 05:38:42 PM
I pledged on the deck for no other reason than to have cards that do this....

God what.

The 0 of spades?
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: Bill Collins on July 19, 2013, 08:14:25 PM
I think I would get a deck if he was to, get rid of the clip art and stick to standard colors (personally I like the idea, but not in this way)
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on July 20, 2013, 12:08:57 AM

The 0 of spades?

Probably his deck's version of the ten of spades - either that or it's like a suited joker.  Making it a single digit allows for words to be created from the inverted numbers.  As far back as the early '70s that was a popular fad.  There was even a humorous book, "Boggle", which contained math word problems that produced word answers when you rotated the calculator display 180 degrees.
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: Magic_Orthodoxy on July 20, 2013, 12:12:47 AM
8K is too low of a goal. I don't think he'll hit it.
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: California on July 20, 2013, 03:02:14 PM
Hello Discourse,

My name is Ari Steffen. I am the creator of Radical 80s playing cards on kickstarter. Reading your expert opinions has been both humbling and real. I am not use to my work receiving so much scrutiny. with what said I appreciate your opinions and feedback.

Let me address a few things.
- I made some ammeter mistakes when I launched the page and some of my images were cmyk. While it looked fine on my computer it looked like crap to some. so I had to take a bunch of images down and repost them as rgb. That is why the back disappeared.

The back- I like the cassette checkers design... but none of you seem to and a few others have felt the some way. I am taking feedback and working on several others designs. On monday I will put it to a vote of the backers.

The Pips. The digital lcd numbers are a unique feature of this deck. Did you ever turn a calculator upside down and spell words when you were a kid? you can do that with this deck. 01137 is Hello. (the extra cards are a digital 1 and 0)
You can also use this deck to rate anything... like the 1980s Olympics...  or what you think of this deck.
Finally, 80s guys don’t have time to count pips. they have digital clocks, digital watches, and now digital cards.

This is my first deck and It means a lot to me. I want to make it the best I can. I respect your opinions and input. keep it coming!
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on July 20, 2013, 06:31:44 PM
Hello Discourse,

My name is Ari Steffen. I am the creator of Radical 80s playing cards on kickstarter. Reading your expert opinions has been both humbling and real. I am not use to my work receiving so much scrutiny. with what said I appreciate your opinions and feedback.

Let me address a few things.
- I made some ammeter mistakes when I launched the page and some of my images were cmyk. While it looked fine on my computer it looked like crap to some. so I had to take a bunch of images down and repost them as rgb. That is why the back disappeared.

The back- I like the cassette checkers design... but none of you seem to and a few others have felt the some way. I am taking feedback and working on several others designs. On monday I will put it to a vote of the backers.

The Pips. The digital lcd numbers are a unique feature of this deck. Did you ever turn a calculator upside down and spell words when you were a kid? you can do that with this deck. 01137 is Hello. (the extra cards are a digital 1 and 0)
You can also use this deck to rate anything... like the 1980s Olympics...  or what you think of this deck.
Finally, 80s guys don’t have time to count pips. they have digital clocks, digital watches, and now digital cards.

This is my first deck and It means a lot to me. I want to make it the best I can. I respect your opinions and input. keep it coming!

First, welcome, Ari.  Drop by the Introduce Yourself board when you have a chance and let us really get to know you better.

Suggestions:

* I know you love the neon, but for the sake of deck function, consider either going with two colors, or if you really want four, try finding more complementary pairs, such as using pink and magenta for the red suits and sky blue and electric blue for the black suits.

* I'm assuming the "zero" card is your version of a ten.  Consider making the index read "10" with the center of the card remaining a "0".  And the negative space...I'm all for not cluttering a card, but your design seems really empty.  How about trying a line of pips along the bottom of the card, similar to the line sometimes used for distinguishing the difference between a 6 and a 9.  You deck especially needs this, since when the cards get shuffled up and dealt, the 6 and the 9 are nearly identical - and at a distance, might as well be.

* We love the hairstyles for the court cards.  We despise the clip-art insertions of '80s paraphernalia - why not use your talents and draw them into the image using the same style of the courts?  That hair is awesome!  I would even go so far as to recommend altering the court outfits themselves into something more in the style of '80s fashions.  For a good example of a similar transformation, check out the Bicycle Black Tie deck - it was launched on Kickstarter so the page should still be available.  It's a fantastic deck, transforming the courts into the hoi polloi at a formal function.  By stripping away the complex traditional court designs, you'll find it easier to incorporate original art images into the courts, I think, of objects like boom boxes and brick cellphones.

* Consider replacing the Rubik's Cube with something else.  I know, it's very iconically '80s (despite being invented in 1974!), but it's also a patented, trademarked item.  Consider shiny compact discs, a "luggable" portable computer or some other more generic item.  USPC's well-known Legal Department will stop your project cold if you don't own the rights to everything that appears in your deck - and that's if you're lucky.  Projects have been destroyed with legal battles over the ownership and licensing of copyrights and trademarks.
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: CBJ on November 19, 2013, 04:47:49 PM
These decks are out on the open market


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CBJ
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on November 19, 2013, 11:58:39 PM
Jay, you've been a wealth of information today - I can't thank you enough.
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: Mrmagic on November 20, 2013, 08:42:23 AM
Hope someone buys them, personally I cant stand the neon colors.
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: newtsgames on January 11, 2014, 01:47:53 PM
Funded or bought them.  Loved them.  Great flashback.
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: spindles on July 26, 2014, 02:58:26 PM
I funded them. I really like their style. However, despite the awesome design, the quality was lacking. Externally, the graphics are pixelated. On the cards, there are some issues with color consistency.
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on July 26, 2014, 09:53:54 PM
I funded them. I really like their style. However, despite the awesome design, the quality was lacking. Externally, the graphics are pixelated. On the cards, there are some issues with color consistency.

That could be USPC's fault rather than the designer.  I've picked up packs of off-the-shelf Tally Hos that had different shades of red from card to card.  Wouldn't be the first time they made a mildly-defective print run.
Title: Re: Radical 80's playing cards by BICYCLE® by ari steffen (KS)
Post by: spindles on July 26, 2014, 11:37:59 PM
That could be USPC's fault rather than the designer. 

Yes, I wouldn't be surprised either. That's why I'm definitely holding onto the deck because the design is still so fun.