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Title: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: BastianBJ on May 09, 2013, 11:42:38 AM
Albino Dragon is back with a new deck!

It is now live at Kickstarter with only 3 different pledges, which is for 1, 2 or 3 decks of cards. They do state that there will be more stuff to came later though. So far, only the card back and the AoS are to see at the project page.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1460165270/the-name-of-the-wind-playing-cards?ref=search (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1460165270/the-name-of-the-wind-playing-cards?ref=search)
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Loop Cuts on May 09, 2013, 12:40:50 PM
Now I'll say this first, I'm a fan of these guys and the work they've done, but when are they going to take a risk on a new back design?  Yes the art is different but is closely resembles a few of there decks.  Happy to see them grow, disappointed to see repetition.
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on May 10, 2013, 08:51:51 AM
Now I'll say this first, I'm a fan of these guys and the work they've done, but when are they going to take a risk on a new back design?  Yes the art is different but is closely resembles a few of there decks.  Happy to see them grow, disappointed to see repetition.

To play Devil's Advocate, there seems to be a demand for it - why mess with a formula that works, until it stops working?  And their previous deck, Synthesis - didn't that one have a different back style?
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Alex Willis on May 10, 2013, 11:52:44 AM
I like their style, so much so that I pledged without seeing more than the drawing of the Ace.  Me and about a hundred other people.  I could do without all the video chat.  I like to watch him put his headphones on and draw.  I'm envious of his draw screen.  :)
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Curt on May 10, 2013, 09:17:13 PM
I like it, it's unique and well done. I won't be adding it to my collection since I can't keep up with all of these KS decks but looks like it's not having any troubles reaching the goal, only $600 to go.
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Loop Cuts on May 10, 2013, 09:34:01 PM
Now I'll say this first, I'm a fan of these guys and the work they've done, but when are they going to take a risk on a new back design?  Yes the art is different but is closely resembles a few of there decks.  Happy to see them grow, disappointed to see repetition.

To play Devil's Advocate, there seems to be a demand for it - why mess with a formula that works, until it stops working?  And their previous deck, Synthesis - didn't that one have a different back style?

That is a valid point from a business stand point, but I was posting from a fans perspective.  And the Synthesis was indeed different so I'll insert my foot into my mouth.
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: MrMollusk on May 11, 2013, 01:12:56 AM
Neat deck. But I never read the Name of the Wind books, so I'm probably not going to pick one up.
I love the back design "formula" as Don put it, and I'm happy to see them use it in this deck. The fact that they're almost funded yet haven't released a single court card mock-up is also indicative of their reputation for awesome artwork.

But am I the only one who thinks the text on the ace of spades looks... off?
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Rob Wright on May 23, 2013, 10:37:58 AM
$55,000, and no signs of slowing down. looks like this could top the Fed 52 project. There getting a lot of backing from the book enthusiast. I've started reading the book. So far pretty good. Albino has been reworking the designs as they go with a lot of input from the readers. They are really playing close attention to the symbolism to tie in with the book. I can see why it is doing so well. I watched the video of Shane drawing the ace of spades. About half way through, I thought he was done. The amount of detail he puts into the design. Its no wonder they have been successful. True artist in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Soliloquy on June 03, 2013, 02:09:37 PM
Holy cow, it's at $122,159 with 10 days to go.
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Alex Willis on June 03, 2013, 04:46:40 PM
Holy cow, it's at $122,159 with 10 days to go.

They are going for the record for Playing Cards on KS.  It comes nowhere near table top games in terms of overall dollars, but it brings in a comparable pledge count with over 3K. 
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on June 04, 2013, 01:18:32 AM
Holy cow, it's at $122,159 with 10 days to go.

They are going for the record for Playing Cards on KS.  It comes nowhere near table top games in terms of overall dollars, but it brings in a comparable pledge count with over 3K.

Rob's earlier comment about this deck possibly topping the Federal 52 project could be prophetic - it's in third place already for highest-funded deck project on KS.  Second place is the Misc. Goods Deck, with $146,596 raised, while Fed 52 took in $149,156...  It's definitely within targeting range.
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Rob Wright on June 04, 2013, 01:48:57 PM
The King Killer is now at the top of the mountain,  $174,400 with still 9 days to go. Unbelievable- done without any brick sales.
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: sprouts1115 on June 04, 2013, 10:38:12 PM
Holy crap! So when is it a good time seek professional shippers?  At 6000 backers or at 7000 backers.  This thing just exploded.  I like the new reward tiers.  People are knocking each other over to get to them.  I have to say Erik is a genius at the reward tiers.  Didn't see that coming but if you look back he said he was going to do just that....
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Rob Wright on June 05, 2013, 12:30:07 AM
KICKTRAQ Data

06/02/13- 202 new backers. $20,363 raised
06/03/13- 163 new backers. $15,299 raised
06/04/13- 1565 new backers. $71,512 raised
06/05/13 as of 12:20am est. 48 new backers. $2,383 raised

5,594 Total backers. $203,636 total raised

Still 8 days and 20 hours+ to go

I say $350,000+ by the time it's over
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on June 05, 2013, 02:45:25 AM

06/04/13- 1565 new backers. $71,512 raised

This figure leaves me absolutely gobsmacked.  I don't think any deck project has had such a huge number of backers and pledge dollars in a single day before.

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5,594 Total backers. $203,636 total raised

Still 8 days and 20 hours+ to go

I say $350,000+ by the time it's over

And these numbers leave me utterly flabbergasted!  (Yep, I'm bustin' out the fifty-cent words today..)
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Emmanuel on June 05, 2013, 10:11:53 AM
^ ^ ^ Agreed, Don.
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Alex Willis on June 05, 2013, 11:20:57 AM
The great news for card designers is that there are many new potential buyers of decks on KS now!  This project drew in a lot of fresh faces, and if I have to ride coat tails to get my decks funded, so be it. :)  Seriously though, I'm not surprised.  I've loved this deck since launch date.  I don't really get all the extra stuff, nor do i care about magnets and other shit, I just like the cards.  What is funny is that there is not an add-on or a pledge level to include a copy of the book. 
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: RandyButterfield on June 05, 2013, 11:40:53 AM
The great news for card designers is that there are many new potential buyers of decks on KS now!

I doubt that. I'm guessing they found fans of the book, not normal playing card fans.
I'm a fan of Fantasy books, but I hadn't heard of The Name of the Wind until this project.
It looks like the book has a large following though!

thanks, Randy

Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Rob Wright on June 05, 2013, 11:56:00 AM
The great news for card designers is that there are many new potential buyers of decks on KS now!

I doubt that. I'm guessing they found fans of the book, not normal playing card fans.

I checked out their backer list. I was a little surprised that less than half are first time backers. Still that's 2500+ backers spending a shit load of money. I kind of liken KS to tattoos and potato chips. Once you get one, you can't stop.
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Alex Willis on June 05, 2013, 12:45:10 PM
I checked out their backer list. I was a little surprised that less than half are first time backers. Still that's 2500+ backers spending a shit load of money. I kind of liken KS to tattoos and potato chips. Once you get one, you can't stop.

That is exactly how I found kickstarter and started pledging on projects.  A friend was doing an art book and I joined to buy it.  Then I started looking around and saw other very cool things and bought a few more art items and playing cards.  I can't help myself, I don't see this stuff anywhere!
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on June 05, 2013, 03:11:25 PM
The great news for card designers is that there are many new potential buyers of decks on KS now!  This project drew in a lot of fresh faces, and if I have to ride coat tails to get my decks funded, so be it. :)  Seriously though, I'm not surprised.  I've loved this deck since launch date.  I don't really get all the extra stuff, nor do i care about magnets and other shit, I just like the cards.  What is funny is that there is not an add-on or a pledge level to include a copy of the book.

I agree with Randy - the biggest boost this deck is getting is from fans of the book.

BTW: it's perfectly logical that they wouldn't have the book as an add-on.  To know anything about the deck, you'd have to have read the story already - meaning you probably already own it.  It keeps it simple to leave it out and put the more cards-related items on the rewards list.
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Alex Willis on June 05, 2013, 03:46:55 PM
The great news for card designers is that there are many new potential buyers of decks on KS now!  This project drew in a lot of fresh faces, and if I have to ride coat tails to get my decks funded, so be it. :)  Seriously though, I'm not surprised.  I've loved this deck since launch date.  I don't really get all the extra stuff, nor do i care about magnets and other shit, I just like the cards.  What is funny is that there is not an add-on or a pledge level to include a copy of the book.

I agree with Randy - the biggest boost this deck is getting is from fans of the book.

BTW: it's perfectly logical that they wouldn't have the book as an add-on.  To know anything about the deck, you'd have to have read the story already - meaning you probably already own it.  It keeps it simple to leave it out and put the more cards-related items on the rewards list.

Not sure I agree, they already have a large fan base like me who buy their cards because they like them.  I'd be interested in getting a signed copy of the book if they offered it.  I'm not sure I want to go to the effort of going to Amazon to buy a regular copy.  I should ask Brandon Sanderson if he's considered converting his characters in one of his series into cards.
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Rob Wright on June 05, 2013, 10:01:29 PM
The great news for card designers is that there are many new potential buyers of decks on KS now!  This project drew in a lot of fresh faces, and if I have to ride coat tails to get my decks funded, so be it. :)  Seriously though, I'm not surprised.  I've loved this deck since launch date.  I don't really get all the extra stuff, nor do i care about magnets and other shit, I just like the cards.  What is funny is that there is not an add-on or a pledge level to include a copy of the book.

I agree with Randy - the biggest boost this deck is getting is from fans of the book.

BTW: it's perfectly logical that they wouldn't have the book as an add-on.  To know anything about the deck, you'd have to have read the story already - meaning you probably already own it.  It keeps it simple to leave it out and put the more cards-related items on the rewards list.

Not sure I agree, they already have a large fan base like me who buy their cards because they like them.  I'd be interested in getting a signed copy of the book if they offered it.  I'm not sure I want to go to the effort of going to Amazon to buy a regular copy.  I should ask Brandon Sanderson if he's considered converting his characters in one of his series into cards.

This project is blowing up in 2 ways. I did order the book on Amazon. I'm sure I am not the only one. I'm about half way through. For me that is something. A.W. if you are interested in a signed copy. Pat sells them on his charity website. http://thetinkerspacks.bigcartel.com/category/pat-s-books
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: kdklown on June 06, 2013, 01:27:10 AM
Is the book any good?
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on June 06, 2013, 05:05:43 PM
The great news for card designers is that there are many new potential buyers of decks on KS now!  This project drew in a lot of fresh faces, and if I have to ride coat tails to get my decks funded, so be it. :)  Seriously though, I'm not surprised.  I've loved this deck since launch date.  I don't really get all the extra stuff, nor do i care about magnets and other shit, I just like the cards.  What is funny is that there is not an add-on or a pledge level to include a copy of the book.

I agree with Randy - the biggest boost this deck is getting is from fans of the book.

BTW: it's perfectly logical that they wouldn't have the book as an add-on.  To know anything about the deck, you'd have to have read the story already - meaning you probably already own it.  It keeps it simple to leave it out and put the more cards-related items on the rewards list.

Not sure I agree, they already have a large fan base like me who buy their cards because they like them.  I'd be interested in getting a signed copy of the book if they offered it.  I'm not sure I want to go to the effort of going to Amazon to buy a regular copy.  I should ask Brandon Sanderson if he's considered converting his characters in one of his series into cards.

This project is blowing up in 2 ways. I did order the book on Amazon. I'm sure I am not the only one. I'm about half way through. For me that is something. A.W. if you are interested in a signed copy. Pat sells them on his charity website. http://thetinkerspacks.bigcartel.com/category/pat-s-books

An even better reason for not offering the book in the Kickstarter project for the deck...
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Alex Willis on June 06, 2013, 09:14:48 PM
I ended up getting the audio book.  I hope it's good, it's 27 hours. 
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Rob Wright on June 06, 2013, 10:13:15 PM
Is the book any good?

I'm not a big reader, but something about this project intrigued me to get the book. I am really enjoying it. I would liken reading this to watching a Quentin Tarantino movie. If this was to be made into a movie. I think he would be the perfect director.
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: kdklown on June 07, 2013, 01:38:22 AM
Sounds like I might be interested in reading it.  Since I'm getting the deck I feel like I should read the book as well.  If the audio book is 27 hours this must be a massive undertaking!  Backing a deck and I get a homework assignment. ;)
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Bill Collins on June 07, 2013, 03:50:02 AM
Sounds like I might be interested in reading it.  Since I'm getting the deck I feel like I should read the book as well.  If the audio book is 27 hours this must be a massive undertaking!  Backing a deck and I get a homework assignment. ;)


I'm dyslexic so I will wait for the movie to come out,  however I did pledge, just to get The White Rabbit deck
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Alex Willis on June 07, 2013, 07:24:06 AM

I'm dyslexic so I will wait for the movie to come out,  however I did pledge, just to get The White Rabbit deck

While I like the White Rabbit deck, it was a bit of a let down with the Add-on Regular people faces.  Those people who paid to have thier faces characterized on the cards.  You go from wonder(land)ful fantasy images to Mary Jane down the street as the queen of hearts.  I thought the Queen was supposed to be a bitch, not a pleasant housewife.  (Not that some housewives can't be wickedly evil, just look at the Real Housewives of Lancaster County:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o896InWRLDg)
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on June 07, 2013, 10:09:08 AM
$303 grand and no end in sight - well, in six days, maybe, but I can't see that far!

He's already got Neil Gaiman as the first joker - at $310K, they unlock Felicia Day as the second one!  They'll probably reach that by lunchtime...

This is, what, DOUBLE the previous record so far?  Anyone ever see a deck break a half-million?
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Alex Willis on June 07, 2013, 11:16:58 AM
$303 grand and no end in sight - well, in six days, maybe, but I can't see that far!

He's already got Neil Gaiman as the first joker - at $310K, they unlock Felicia Day as the second one!  They'll probably reach that by lunchtime...

This is, what, DOUBLE the previous record so far?  Anyone ever see a deck break a half-million?

Felicia Day as a Joker?  Wow, now I want the deck even more.  But I already pledged for a few.  perhaps I should add the full uncut sheet.
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: sprouts1115 on June 07, 2013, 07:07:34 PM
I like this quote from Encarded.  {Prepare yourselves for a new raft of card projects "based on the book/character/etc" as someone else is going to try to cash in on this.}
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Alex Willis on June 07, 2013, 07:52:25 PM
I like this quote from Encarded.  {Prepare yourselves for a new raft of card projects "based on the book/character/etc" as someone else is going to try to cash in on this.}

My current deck is based on novels by Jules Verne and Edgar Rice Burroughs, but it was designed and planned long before Albino Dragon announced what they were doing.  My first deck was based on my own novel.  Good news is that my future decks are not based on novels.  But that brings up another point, people are going to see that someone made over $300K on playing cards, so everyone one and their dog will be putting up playing cards, book related or not.  It's going to make it hard for the decks  I plan on launching in the future as now I will have to compete with every Tom, Dick and Lazy.  If your deck is good, people  will want it, but if they have to wade through a hundred decks, they may never see it.  And if they look at 4 or 5 really crappy decks, they'll assume all the decks are crap.  :(
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Bill Collins on June 07, 2013, 08:02:17 PM

This is, what, DOUBLE the previous record so far?  Anyone ever see a deck break a half-million?

I wonder how much the deck by it's self would have brought in with out all the add-on's
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on June 08, 2013, 02:22:12 AM
I like this quote from Encarded.  {Prepare yourselves for a new raft of card projects "based on the book/character/etc" as someone else is going to try to cash in on this.}

We've already been experiencing this.  Three of the four Albino Dragon decks are based on literary works, while the one that isn't is based on a genre that started with literature.

Hell, we even have people creating decks that not just are based on books, but LOOK like books!

Every Cthulhu deck, every Jules Verne deck, every Alice in Wonderland deck, every steampunk deck, every cyberpunk deck - all originate from literary works either directly or as a genre.  One could even argue the same about the zombie decks, since before the zombie decks, before the zombie TV shows and movies, there were zombie stories...and you can't swing a dead corpse around Kickstarter without hitting a zombie deck...  :))

Ironic, since most people into custom cards are in an age group that as a whole today is practically allergic to books...


My current deck is based on novels by Jules Verne and Edgar Rice Burroughs, but it was designed and planned long before Albino Dragon announced what they were doing.  My first deck was based on my own novel.  Good news is that my future decks are not based on novels.  But that brings up another point, people are going to see that someone made over $300K on playing cards, so everyone one and their dog will be putting up playing cards, book related or not.  It's going to make it hard for the decks  I plan on launching in the future as now I will have to compete with every Tom, Dick and Lazy.  If your deck is good, people  will want it, but if they have to wade through a hundred decks, they may never see it.  And if they look at 4 or 5 really crappy decks, they'll assume all the decks are crap.  :(

We were having that already.  But it doesn't take long before the crap gets swept away.  The opportunists who have no real love of playing cards and just want to make big bucks will see that it's not all that easy and requires real work to make something even moderately successful - and by successful, I'm not talking about a deck with a goal under a thousand bucks made by a print-on-demand company like Zazzle.  Those decks are the laziest of the lazy, like that "Impractical Joker" deck; no only could he not be bothered to make a real design, he couldn't even be bothered to find a quality printer that didn't use 100% bog-standard faces.

The biggest problem with finding GOOD deck projects (or ANY deck projects, for that matter) has everything to do, in my opinion, with the lousy way that Kickstarter displays its search results.  There's zero rhyme or reason to it, no way to sort out the completed projects from the ones still running, they aren't in alphabetical order, chronologically order by start date, chronological order by end date - or any other order beyond tossing darts at a list.  It really feels at times like random.org does their sorting for them.  Fix THAT, and maybe people will start finding things more easily around there...


This is, what, DOUBLE the previous record so far?  Anyone ever see a deck break a half-million?

I wonder how much the deck by it's self would have brought in with out all the add-on's

The add-ons in this card project weren't any more or less exceptional than others that have gone before it: dice, t-shirts, poker chips/sets, coins, 'fridge magnets, art prints, even a few bits of jewelry.  What made this really blow up were, as I see it, the stretch goals.  Celebrities appearing as characters in the deck?  Not something you see every day...
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Rob Wright on June 09, 2013, 03:27:24 PM

This is, what, DOUBLE the previous record so far?  Anyone ever see a deck break a half-million?

I wonder how much the deck by it's self would have brought in with out all the add-on's

05/09/13- project starts with 3 pledge levels only. 1 deck $11, 2-$20, 3-$30. no add on's-is a limited deck- max you can get is 3 decks
05/16/13- $36,000 pledged- 5/17 card cover added-5/19 uncut sheet added
05/20/13- $48,000 pledged- chip sets added-05/23 art prints added
05/28/13-$$77,000 pledged-2nd color deck(unlimited $10 each)is added-5/30 custom  poker cases added
06/01/13- $93,000 pledged - average $3875 per day w/12 days left=$139,500. At this point only normal add on's. If they had not added anymore items, I think they would
                                              have beat the record, considering the last 2 day pop.
06/02/13- This is when it blows up, and all the stretch goals, and add on's really get going.

                 7 people @$500, 2 people @$700, and 1 person @$1,000 paid to have their likeness on a card. =$5,900
                  Something for some designers to think about


06/09/13- 3:25 pm est. $352,725 pledged. 8,341 backers.  4 days, 5 hours, 45 min to go

                My final projection- $402,000

                 Total of all other live(26) decks now-$162,000


Say what you will. pretty remarkable project.
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on June 10, 2013, 01:22:18 AM
                 7 people @$500, 2 people @$700, and 1 person @$1,000 paid to have their likeness on a card. =$5,900
                  Something for some designers to think about

The reason for that has MUCH more to do with the novel upon which the deck is based than people wanting their faces on a playing card deck.  It would be equivalent to someone circa 1960 creating a playing card deck based on the Ian Fleming "James Bond" novels (this is BEFORE the famous movies) and offering people a chance to buy their way into being the faces of characters from the books with their likenesses on the cards.  That has a lot less to do with the designer, a lot more to do with the books.  Same would hold true if it was a Harry Potter deck being created before the movies came out and you could pay to have your likeness as a fellow student or an instructor at Hogwart's represented on the cards.

It doesn't hurt that three of the other faces in the deck are moderately well-known celebrities...  :))
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Rob Wright on June 10, 2013, 04:59:55 PM
                 7 people @$500, 2 people @$700, and 1 person @$1,000 paid to have their likeness on a card. =$5,900
                  Something for some designers to think about

The reason for that has MUCH more to do with the novel upon which the deck is based than people wanting their faces on a playing card deck.  It would be equivalent to someone circa 1960 creating a playing card deck based on the Ian Fleming "James Bond" novels (this is BEFORE the famous movies) and offering people a chance to buy their way into being the faces of characters from the books with their likenesses on the cards.  That has a lot less to do with the designer, a lot more to do with the books.  Same would hold true if it was a Harry Potter deck being created before the movies came out and you could pay to have your likeness as a fellow student or an instructor at Hogwart's represented on the cards.

It doesn't hurt that three of the other faces in the deck are moderately well-known celebrities...  :))

I actually put that statement in because of a previous comment by you(in another topic). I don't remember the exact comment, but you were basically saying it was a popular add on to make money. This project is proof pudding that it works in the right situations. Take Alex Willis' deck "Victorian Adventure". If he was to add pledges for $50-100 extra for likenesses to be added. Its an add on that cost him nothing but time. Even if he only gets 1 or 2 people, still a couple hundred dollars extra, for work he was going to do anyway.
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on June 11, 2013, 12:00:55 AM
                 7 people @$500, 2 people @$700, and 1 person @$1,000 paid to have their likeness on a card. =$5,900
                  Something for some designers to think about

The reason for that has MUCH more to do with the novel upon which the deck is based than people wanting their faces on a playing card deck.  It would be equivalent to someone circa 1960 creating a playing card deck based on the Ian Fleming "James Bond" novels (this is BEFORE the famous movies) and offering people a chance to buy their way into being the faces of characters from the books with their likenesses on the cards.  That has a lot less to do with the designer, a lot more to do with the books.  Same would hold true if it was a Harry Potter deck being created before the movies came out and you could pay to have your likeness as a fellow student or an instructor at Hogwart's represented on the cards.

It doesn't hurt that three of the other faces in the deck are moderately well-known celebrities...  :))

I actually put that statement in because of a previous comment by you(in another topic). I don't remember the exact comment, but you were basically saying it was a popular add on to make money. This project is proof pudding that it works in the right situations. Take Alex Willis' deck "Victorian Adventure". If he was to add pledges for $50-100 extra for likenesses to be added. Its an add on that cost him nothing but time. Even if he only gets 1 or 2 people, still a couple hundred dollars extra, for work he was going to do anyway.

True.  When I mentioned it was popular, I meant with the project creators, not so much with the backers.  But it's really just found money, in a certain way.

BTW: "7 people @$500, 2 people @$700, and 1 person @$1,000" adds up to $5,900 - which is less than 2% of a project this size!  $392K and counting...  They even added a marked version of the unlimited-edition deck in red!
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Rob Wright on June 11, 2013, 01:22:50 AM
                 7 people @$500, 2 people @$700, and 1 person @$1,000 paid to have their likeness on a card. =$5,900
                  Something for some designers to think about

The reason for that has MUCH more to do with the novel upon which the deck is based than people wanting their faces on a playing card deck.  It would be equivalent to someone circa 1960 creating a playing card deck based on the Ian Fleming "James Bond" novels (this is BEFORE the famous movies) and offering people a chance to buy their way into being the faces of characters from the books with their likenesses on the cards.  That has a lot less to do with the designer, a lot more to do with the books.  Same would hold true if it was a Harry Potter deck being created before the movies came out and you could pay to have your likeness as a fellow student or an instructor at Hogwart's represented on the cards.

It doesn't hurt that three of the other faces in the deck are moderately well-known celebrities...  :))

I actually put that statement in because of a previous comment by you(in another topic). I don't remember the exact comment, but you were basically saying it was a popular add on to make money. This project is proof pudding that it works in the right situations. Take Alex Willis' deck "Victorian Adventure". If he was to add pledges for $50-100 extra for likenesses to be added. Its an add on that cost him nothing but time. Even if he only gets 1 or 2 people, still a couple hundred dollars extra, for work he was going to do anyway.

True.  When I mentioned it was popular, I meant with the project creators, not so much with the backers.  But it's really just found money, in a certain way.

BTW: "7 people @$500, 2 people @$700, and 1 person @$1,000" adds up to $5,900 - which is less than 2% of a project this size!  $392K and counting...  They even added a marked version of the unlimited-edition deck in red!

It may only be 2% of the project, but $5,900 would pay my house payment for 6 months.
For a smaller project, that is just at the break even point. $200-300 could be huge

It also appears that my final projection will be blown out the water. They snuck in a fourth deck, as you mentioned. At 394,569 now. 2days 20 hours to go. $500k does not look impossible.
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on June 11, 2013, 01:30:27 AM

It may only be 2% of the project, but $5,900 would pay my house payment for 6 months.
For a smaller project, that is just at the break even point. $200-300 could be huge

It also appears that my final projection will be blown out the water. They snuck in a fourth deck, as you mentioned. At 394,569 now. 2days 20 hours to go. $500k does not look impossible.

Yeah, but "less than two percent" of a project with a goal of $10,000 is LESS THAN $200.  It's a nice bump, to be sure, but it's a one-time bump, never to be repeated since you're limited on the number of faces that can go into any deck.  And remember, this was a deck based on a popular novel - most decks don't have that sort of cachet right off the starting blocks.

Fourth deck?  I counted three - am I missing something?  Limited, unlimited and marked unlimited.
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Rob Wright on June 11, 2013, 01:55:41 AM
Fourth deck?  I counted three - am I missing something?  Limited, unlimited and marked unlimited.

They are doing a reprint of the White Rabbit deck w/new back.
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on June 11, 2013, 05:04:22 AM
Fourth deck?  I counted three - am I missing something?  Limited, unlimited and marked unlimited.

They are doing a reprint of the White Rabbit deck w/new back.

Oh, THAT one...
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Emmanuel on June 12, 2013, 06:33:16 PM
Half a million and counting with 1 day left. 

Insane.  :o

Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: sprouts1115 on June 12, 2013, 07:12:45 PM
Now that is a good $500,000 stretch goal.  Earlier, I think you were sloppy with the stretch goals as your backers blew past them.  Not even a speed bump...  Frig Magnets?  Really?  ;)
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on June 12, 2013, 09:31:14 PM
Now that is a good $500,000 stretch goal.  Earlier, I think you were sloppy with the stretch goals as your backers blew past them.  Not even a speed bump...  Frig Magnets?  Really?  ;)

A map of the US, as seen by a Texan...  Thank you for adding that little dash of bizarre we've come to expect from you...  :))
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Soliloquy on June 12, 2013, 11:45:22 PM
 I don't know how Albino Dragon, the author, and whoever else was involved agreed to split the proceeds, but I imagine the party has already started :)
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on June 13, 2013, 08:40:25 AM
I don't know how Albino Dragon, the author, and whoever else was involved agreed to split the proceeds, but I imagine the party has already started :)

You'd probably be having a party as well, if your company just got a half-million dollars of capital dropped in its lap!
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Alex Willis on June 13, 2013, 02:23:02 PM
I don't know how Albino Dragon, the author, and whoever else was involved agreed to split the proceeds, but I imagine the party has already started :)

You'd probably be having a party as well, if your company just got a half-million dollars of capital dropped in its lap!

Casual guess at a net profit?  $100K?  ($500+K less cost of goods, less no-pays, less fees, less tax, less shipping, less payments to celebrity endorsements, less labor (the artist should pay himself a salary and not just a share of the profits)...
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Paul Carpenter on June 13, 2013, 02:28:06 PM
Amusing, in a twisted kind of way, that the fees taken out by KS and Amazon will be more than most card projects entire funding. Cray cray.
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Rob Wright on June 13, 2013, 02:42:27 PM
Casual guess at a net profit?  $100K?  ($500+K less cost of goods, less no-pays, less fees, less tax, less shipping, less payments to celebrity endorsements, less labor (the artist should pay himself a salary and not just a share of the profits)...

I know they are ordering 15k limited decks, and most likely the same on the unlimited. Which would put their cost on the decks about $1.25 each. The chips look to be about 50% profit. I would guess $150-200k. Oh and at $556k with 6 plus hours to go
Title: Re: The Name of the Wind (KS)
Post by: Soliloquy on June 13, 2013, 10:37:21 PM
$589,660!  Hey, we need a smiley that pops open a champagne bottle around here...