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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Playing Card Plethora => Topic started by: CBJ on February 22, 2013, 06:23:13 PM
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Hey guys,
With UC relaunched, Mike ( ) and I have thrown around the idea of a Bicycle branded UnitedCardists. com deck.
It would be Mike's second release, the first being the Bicycle Premiere back.
What do you guys think?
CBJ
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from what I can tell from his posts here, Mike seems like a bit of a scumbag. Don't think I'd buy a deck from him.
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I don't know about Mike himself but I like BMPoker World. I wasn't a huge fan of the Premier deck but it looks like a fine deck. I would be interested in seeing another deck from them!
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I'm all for it just as long as the customization is going to be good. Money's tight right now, juggling between many items to purchase, and, I'm not very fond about decks that take less than an hour to produce.
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Hey guys,
Randy Butterfield from Midnight Playing Cards is designing the deck. Here are some pics of what he's working on
(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/ucbackdesignlefttorightback_zpseee0ac3e.jpg)
(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/ucbackdesigninterlinkinguc_zpsebd2c049.jpg)
(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/uccourtrecoloringHeart_zps5b9b6e09.jpg)
(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/uccourtrecoloringClub_zps25955cca.jpg)
(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/uccourtrecoloringDiamond_zps64d21d9d.jpg)
(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/uccourtrecoloringSpade_zps257c738d.jpg)
More info coming soon.
CBJ
Also... can we now get this moved back to the playing card plethora?
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The 1st back design is a one way design, the diamond in the middle of the united cardist line, one part of its shaded if fliped it on the other side.
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I'm liking the color scheme. Moreover, I like the second back design compared to the first.
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Also... can we now get this moved back to the playing card plethora?
Sure thing. I like the back with the UC logo rather than the written-out name in the diagonal stripe. It's bold without being overwhelming or stupid-looking.
Just out of silly curiosity, if this wasn't going to be a Bicycle-branded deck, would you buy it anyway? :))
Kidding, of course. I like the spare design aesthetic. Simple back pattern without being boring, three-color courts... I'm not even a member and I might buy some.
I'm adding this to the NDR as well. Keep us posted on progress and pre-order/order dates!
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I'm going to have to agree with the fact that although I'm not a member of UC I might have to pick up the deck. The green is nice on the courts and I like the logo back design as well. I'm not really sure what you would call the blackish pattern on the back (diamond I guess?) but I do like it.
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Have you guys considered a black deck? It just fits the UC theme far more. I know you'll probably dismiss my opinion, but I don't see anything wrong with a black deck that looks sexy as hell. Turning it into a black deck, perhaps just for shits and giggles, would take ~5 mins at most.
Also the second back you posted is very nice. :)
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Have you guys considered a black deck? It just fits the UC theme far more. I know you'll probably dismiss my opinion, but I don't see anything wrong with a black deck that looks sexy as hell. Turning it into a black deck, perhaps just for shits and giggles, would take ~5 mins at most.
Also the second back you posted is very nice. :)
Thanks Alex!
I did think about showing the Back with a Black border to bring up the idea of doing a black deck, but it seems like they're definitely not as popular nowadays. It would definitely go nicely with the Tuck Box as well, which is almost finished.
thanks, Randy
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No thanks, better think of a good theme for a deck of cards than to get something out just because you guys "had the idea"
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Have you guys considered a black deck? It just fits the UC theme far more. I know you'll probably dismiss my opinion, but I don't see anything wrong with a black deck that looks sexy as hell. Turning it into a black deck, perhaps just for shits and giggles, would take ~5 mins at most.
Also the second back you posted is very nice. :)
Thanks Alex!
I did think about showing the Back with a Black border to bring up the idea of doing a black deck, but it seems like they're definitely not as popular nowadays. It would definitely go nicely with the Tuck Box as well, which is almost finished.
thanks, Randy
Black isn't completely out of style - look at the last two Artifice decks, Purple and Black Club. Alex raises an excellent point in that, thematically, black does connect it to the UC board's color scheme better.
Here's a funny thought: make the courts with black instead of white, but frame an area around the faces and make that area white instead of black - like a profile photo! I think that would look not only very cool but incredibly unique.
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Wow!!!! Randy has just sent me some final pictures for you guys to take a look at. He has done 2 different tuck boxes, one with a diamond on the front and one with a traditional AOS. In addition, he also made a slight change on the back design, adding something detail between where the UC logos meet each other. You will also get a look at the seal. Feedback is welcome and expected.
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/bmpokerworld/Playing%20Cards%202/ucdeckaostuckbox_zps37e31f44.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/bmpokerworld/Playing%20Cards%202/ucdeckdiamondtuckbox_zpse11d4d5a.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/bmpokerworld/Playing%20Cards%202/ucdeckaceofspades_zps83ceda6d.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/bmpokerworld/Playing%20Cards%202/ucdeckinsideoftuckbox_zpsc73c260a.jpg)
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I like the tuck box, looks rather elegant .. Not a big fan of green, but I like the green and black combo, do you have an official (or unofficial) release date yet?
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Holy hell, I really like it. I prefer the spade on the box vs the diamond. Awesome job Randy!
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Beautiful. Randy is truly a master.
I'll vote for the Diamond on the tuck. It seems to go smoother and more elegantly with that kind of pattern on the back.
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Wow!! Incredible work! I really like the diamond tuck. Love the colors too. Randy's work always blows me away!
You know, after further study, I think that I like the spade tuck better. To be honest, I'd be happy with either one though.
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I'll vote for the spade tuck box.
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I am liking this deck, very true to Randy's style. I think I like the spade tuck better but both are pretty sweet, I just think it fills the front of the box nicer.
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I like the diamond on the front of the tuck as it balances well with the back in my opinion. The spade is really nice but I prefer it to remain solely on the card. Beautifully done. Looks slick and I look forward to picking up a deck or two!
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Now THAT is a sweet box!
I have to say, I'm loving this deck. Sleek, modern, and very well done.
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I like that Spade box far more than the Diamond. But will USPC allow that change to the box design, putting their Bicycle logo left-of-center?
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This deck is actually turning out better than I would ever expect. I too prefer the Spade on the box as opposed to the Diamond. Also, I'm really looking forward to that green coloring inside the box.
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Hey everyone,
We're going with the Spade on the Tuck Box.
Also, here's a look at the Gaff Queen of Hearts and the 2 Jokers.
The Jokers are computer mice in a style similar to the AOS. One OFF and the other ON.
Thanks, Randy
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I'm a bit impartial to the mouse joker. But I do like the idea of the mouse to relate it back to the fact that United Cardists is an internet forum. Design still looks amazing overall though! :))
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The concept of a mouse design is pretty neat, but I think it looks kind of silly.
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I like where this is heading to, but the courts don't look good to me with that raised box effect (not sure how to call it - 3D pop out effect, maybe?). I think the deck can perfectly go without it.
The jokers are nice, the idea behind it is very good. Some may have trouble recognizing that reference, though. That isn't a standard computer mouse, you know...
The tuck box is perfect, as I stated before.
P.S. Oh, and I wouldn't use green on the court's faces. That queen looks like it's possessed by evil forces or maybe just nauseated.
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P.S. Oh, and I wouldn't use green on the court's faces. That queen looks like it's possessed by evil forces or maybe just nauseated.
That queen isn't a standard queen for this deck - it's a gaff card.
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I like it so far, but I'm not sure that you need to continue the Diamond pattern in the background. I might just a little too busy in my opinion.
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P.S. Oh, and I wouldn't use green on the court's faces. That queen looks like it's possessed by evil forces or maybe just nauseated.
That queen isn't a standard queen for this deck - it's a gaff card.
Well, that explains it. Still, I hope Randy doesn't use green on standard courts because I'm thinking of a The Exorcist routine now ;D
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P.S. Oh, and I wouldn't use green on the court's faces. That queen looks like it's possessed by evil forces or maybe just nauseated.
That queen isn't a standard queen for this deck - it's a gaff card.
Well, that explains it. Still, I hope Randy doesn't use green on standard courts because I'm thinking of a The Exorcist routine now ;D
The photo on the first page of this thread shows that the green on the court cards are on the courts' clothing. Good thing it's not on the faces cause that would be horrible. I think the green actually looks really nice with the gray as well on the court cards.
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Hey everyone,
I just wanted to come in and say a few things. It's my opinion that when creating a Deck with standard faces, albeit re-colored, the most important aspect with the Cards is that the Back, AOS and Joker come together to form a "brand identity" to help sell the theme of the Deck (the Moonshine Deck did this beautifully!).
The Joker is open for experimentation and has more leeway than the Back and AOS, but it still needs to mesh well with the other two. I think the UC Joker flows nicely with the UC Back and AOS to sell the look of the UC forum - futuristic / Matrix-like / SciFi.
As for the Joker design itself, there's quite a few computer mice that have had a similar vibe in the past - mostly for Mac users. I started off with the AOS shape and rotated it 180 degrees, which also gave it somewhat of a "face" silhouette. The 2 green buttons at the top are meant to also be form abstract "eyes". With the middle roller ball and small green light at the bottom loosely representing a "nose" and "mouth" the overall mouse could also be seen as a Joker face with a Jester's hat thrown in to finish it off. A chorded mouse may not be futuristic but it needed that element to sell the idea. Plus, it just looks cool!
I originally did a hand-drawn Joker sitting at.a Desk and doing a Fan with one hand while working on a laptop with the other hand. The drawing came out nice. I scanned it in and started adding loose structures of color. It was looking great on it's own but once I compared it with the UC Back and AOS it stood out like a red-headed stepchild! So, I scrapped a few hours worth of work and started on the Joker we have now. I guess my point is you can do the coolest Joker in the world, but if it doesn't mesh well with the Back and AOS it's useless!!
Here's a look of the UC Back, AOS and Joker laid out together.
Thanks, Randy
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I think this is coming together nicely - a very solid design. I'm looking forward to seeing it on sale at BMPW.
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Wow, I'm loving it.
And the Joker just fits very well.
Congrats! Can't wait to buy it :)
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An update from Mike at BMPoker
"WOW!!!! All I can say is WOW!!! USPCC has bent over backwards to work with us. I just got the pricing for the new deck. Here is what we get:
1) A Bicycle Branded Deck
2) A Custom Seal
3) Embossing & Foil on the Box
4) Green Foil on the Inside of the box
All those upgrades and we will still be able to sell the deck for $4.95!!!!! I think this is truly amazing!!! Well, I have done everything I can and now it is up to you guys. I plan on setting something up so you guys can buy it. Let me know what everyone thinks."
So.. as it stands, it will be $4.95 for UC members... not sure what non-UC member pricing will be, but I'll keep you posted.
CBJ
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Cool cool cool. Thanks for the update CBJ. I can see everyone interested in this deck running over to UC to make an account now :)) but that's a pretty impressive price for all the tuck customization!
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Well, it's looks like the price will be $4.95 for everyone .. UnitedCardists members and non-members.
And they are available for pre-sell NOW!
From Mike at Bmpokerworld...
The Bicycle Unitedcardists.com Playing Card Deck is available for Pre-sell. There will only be 2500 made and these will not be reprinted. The decks will have the following:
1) Bicycle Branded Deck
1) Traditional Bicycle Stock with Air-Cushion Finish
2) Embossing and Green Foil on the box.
3) A Custom Seal
4) A Custom Gaff Card and 2 Custom Gaff Jokers
The decks will be $4.95 per deck + Shipping. The deck needs your support to become a reality. Click on the link below too place your order:
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=FVKCYMERKLLDE
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/bmpokerworld/Playing%20Cards%202/ucdeckaostuckbox_zps37e31f44.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/bmpokerworld/Playing%20Cards%202/ucbackdesignonewayback_zps23caea6d.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/bmpokerworld/Playing%20Cards%202/uccourtrecoloring_zps9bdf8f7e.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/bmpokerworld/Playing%20Cards%202/UCDeckAOSCardnet_zps8f1d7410.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/bmpokerworld/Playing%20Cards%202/UCJokersB_zps6d5d2ae7.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/bmpokerworld/Playing%20Cards%202/ucdeckgaffcard_zpsc8d10837.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/bmpokerworld/Playing%20Cards%202/ucdeckinsideoftuckbox_zpsc73c260a.jpg)
Attention Canadian buyers...
We were not able to set up shipping rates to Canada. I will have to refund the Canada difference manually. Here is the actual Canadian Prices
1 - deck is $9.91 shipping
2 - decks is $10.70 shipping
3 - decks is $11.24 shipping
4-14 deck is $22.95 shipping
15 -72 decks is $48.95 shipping
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Wow that was quick how exciting! Although I'm not a member of UC, I do like the design of this deck and am fairly happy the low price applies to everyone! I'm clicking the link to buy a few decks now :D
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Can't beat the pricing! Good job, guys!
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An update from Randy...
"Here's a conceptual Render that gives a close idea of how the Green Foil will look.
thanks, Randy"
(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/UCDeckHERO3d_zpsfe451905.jpg)
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I can't even imagine how that box or that back design could get any better, can't beat that price either. I'm definitely in!
Props to Randy.
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To speed things along, Mike had put up some decks on Kickstarter. Go pre-order yours now!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2049050533/bicycle-unitedcardistscom-playing-cards
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/projects/502915/photo-main.jpg?1364473079)
CBJ
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Can I just say, major props to you guys. Looks great! :)
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There's still an option to purchase decks via the Paypal link, right?
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There's still an option to purchase decks via the Paypal link, right?
Yes, I just bought the deck via paypal yesterday.
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Looks pretty cool. Are they just regular bicycle stock with air cushion finish?
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Looks pretty cool. Are they just regular bicycle stock with air cushion finish?
Yes they are. Both the Kickstarter page for this deck and the BMPW pages state that this deck will be printed on "Traditional Bicycle stock" and will have "Air-Cushion Finish".
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Looks pretty cool. Are they just regular bicycle stock with air cushion finish?
According to USPC, everything is Bicycle stock + Air-Cushion finish. Apparently Magic finish is fake. They also have a Bee stock, and that's it.
According to Xntrix from E, USPC only gives these options to random customers, but works with big clients like E, T11, etc. to produce custom finishes and stocks. Not sure how much of that I believe though.
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Looks pretty cool. Are they just regular bicycle stock with air cushion finish?
According to USPC, everything is Bicycle stock + Air-Cushion finish. Apparently Magic finish is fake. They also have a Bee stock, and that's it.
According to Xntrix from E, USPC only gives these options to random customers, but works with big clients like E, T11, etc. to produce custom finishes and stocks. Not sure how much of that I believe though.
Believe it - Bill Kalush said as much to me. He worked with USPC as he was pushing to develop a unique finish and unusually-thin but strong stock for his Erdnase 216 decks. It took several months, based on some of what he's shown me, perhaps a year-and-a-half or more.
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So, there have been a couple of updates made on the KS campaign page. A couple of different designers have stepped up and donated some decks to help out the KS campaign!
Update #1
"WOW!!!!! I wanted to say a big THANK YOU to everyone who has supported our deck!!!! We are almost half way to our goal in less than 4 days!!!! In appreciation for your support, we have added 2 new rewards. In each of these rewards, you will get 5 Unitedcardists.com deck PLUS 1 FREE Bicycle Grid 2.0 deck or Bicycle Mythos: Necronomicon deck. These decks were donate by 4PM Desaigns, one of the many deck creators on our wonderful forum.
If you haven't done so, please check our forum out at www.Unitedcardists.com. Also don't forget to check out our deck designers Facebook page at htpp://www.facebook.com/midnightcards.
If you are looking for that elusive Bicycle deck to add to your collection, check us out at Bmpokerworld.com, we have the largest collection of collectible playing cards on the web!!!
Thanks Again for Your Support!!!"
And Update #2
"Another donation has been made by one of the deck creators from our wonderful playing card forum community at Unitedcardists.com. Home Run Games has donated 10 Bicycle 8-Bit Gold Limited Edition SIGNED Decks with Gold Plastic Sleeves.
You will get 12 Bicycle Unitedcardists.com Decks & 1 FREE Bicycle 8-Bit Gold Limited Edition SIGNED Deck with a Gold Plastic Sleeve.This is truly appreciated and shows the type of people we have participating in our forum at Unitedcardists.com. It is the best place on the web to talk and learn about anything related to playing cards. Won't you stop by and check it out?
www.Unitedcardists.com
Thanks Again for Your Support!!!!!!!"
These free decks are available on some of the different tier levels in the campaign. Stop by and check it out...
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2049050533/bicycle-unitedcardistscom-playing-cards
CBJ
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USPCC kickstarter document
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USPCC kickstarter document
USPCC has a "kickstarter document"? Looks like you found it online - where?
I've spoken with Bill Kalush, the head of the Conjuring Arts Research Center. According to him, that's what they tell the small customers. When you're making several decks with them, they're willing to work with you to create something different - such as his finish on the Bee Erdnase 216.
Now, the really big question is - why are you posting this here? This is about the Bicycle UC deck. Are you trying to tell us something, because if so, I think you're short a few sentences there... :))
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Update #3 from the KS page
"I have been getting a lot of requests for uncut sheets, so I have decided to add them as a reward. We are only going to have a limited number of these, so if you want one don't wait to long!!!!"
CBJ
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"Only 2,500 of these decks will be made and only 1200 will be made available on Kickstarter."
Will the rest be sold elsewhere? If so, what is the advantage of preordering via Kickstarter, as opposed to purchasing them after the preorder is concluded? Will there be a price difference or something?
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I think the direct sales + Kickstarter the number of decks has to be very close to 2500.
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"Only 2,500 of these decks will be made and only 1200 will be made available on Kickstarter."
Will the rest be sold elsewhere? If so, what is the advantage of preordering via Kickstarter, as opposed to purchasing them after the preorder is concluded? Will there be a price difference or something?
The other decks are sold (pre-order) to the members of UnitedCardists. Its cheaper but has less rewards (like the free grid deck etc.)
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Hey Everyone,
We added a bonus item to the UC Deck today. Any 12 Deck order will come with a FREE Midnight Cards Custom Brick Box (including past PayPal Pre-Orders). They are the same print-quality and thickness as the ORNATE and BC Luxury Boxes and are also hand-signed.
On a side note - I shutdown the Midnight Cards' Store on April 1st, so none of the custom boxes will be available ala carte any longer.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2049050533/bicycle-unitedcardistscom-playing-cards?ref=search
Thanks, Randy
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A message from Mike (bmpokerworld)
"I just wanted to take 5 minutes and give everyone an update. The cards came in late this afternoon. We have approximately 163 orders that were placed through the forum. All 163 orders, minus a few that we have an address problem with, will ship tomorrow. All the shipping labels have been printed and about 100 orders have been packed. Everyone has received a tracking number. If you didn't get it, please check your spam folder. In any event, I will not be able to provide tracking numbers to anyone that has missed placed them or didn't get them for some reason, until Monday.
BTW, the decks look amazing!!!
Thanks!"
CBJ
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ALL ORDERS SHIPPED OUT !
All pre-sales AND Kickstarter packages have been sent out in less than 2 days! 300+ orders.
Message from Mike:
"Here are some photos. The pictures do not do this deck justice.
(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/1-4_zps6cfd4e5e.jpg)
(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/2-6_zpsf993dd94.jpg)
(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/3-7_zps11b1a6f0.jpg)
Thanks!"
I'm looking forward to seeing the foil on the inside of the tuck.
The remaining decks will be available on the bmpokerworld site later tonight or tomorrow
CBJ
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Wow... I just received my decks and it's literally one of the prettiest freeking things I've ever seen. Kudos to UC and the designer, this one is a homerun in my book
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Wow... I just received my decks and it's literally one of the prettiest freeking things I've ever seen. Kudos to UC and the designer, this one is a homerun in my book
Sweet! Thanks Angel Magic.
My package is coming either today or Monday. I'm mostly curious to see how the green foil looks on the Tuck insides. The Imperial Deck will have gold foil on the Tuck inside, so it will be good to see the results in advance!
Thanks, Randy
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Great job, Randy! Beautiful cards and the foil-lined tuck is a really, really nice feature!
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This deck is gorgeous - easily one of my favorites
link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EB11Ybewxw
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I knew that I liked these shoes for a reason! :-)
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I've just received this deck the past few days, and they are absolutely amazing. There's so much detail put into the tuck box and the cards look amazing.
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I knew that I liked these shoes for a reason! :-)
Dude, that's not a shoe, it's a freakin' aircraft carrier! :))
When you run, they must measure it in the Richter scale...
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I knew that I liked these shoes for a reason! :-)
Dude, that's not a shoe, it's a freakin' aircraft carrier! :))
When you run, they must measure it in the Richter scale...
They are actually pretty nice. Lightweight and cushioned.
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Don, I'm impressed! Instead of the normal "boat" reference, you used aircraft carrier! I haven't heard that one before, very good!.
Yep, size 15. I wear running shoes simply because they are so lightweight. If your foot is this big, heavy shoes will have you worn out by the end of the day!
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Well Don, I guess you now know why he calls himself Bigger Dee....
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Don, I'm impressed! Instead of the normal "boat" reference, you used aircraft carrier! I haven't heard that one before, very good!.
Yep, size 15. I wear running shoes simply because they are so lightweight. If your foot is this big, heavy shoes will have you worn out by the end of the day!
Those are no boats - way too small... Those are SHIPS. :))
I get where you're coming from on the heavier footwear. That happens when I've been wearing my work boots for a long enough time. Just a size 10, though - more of a destroyer compared to yours...
But back on topic - I got my deck and I was pretty impressed with the narrowness of the margin (USPC must've had a field day getting those done right) and the foil in the tucks is a very nice touch. If they were a bit more reflective and a different color, the tucks could make excellent shiners... :)) But that's a topic for the Magical Cardistry Bonanza...
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you know what they say about a man with big feet?
Big shoes
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you know what they say about a man with big feet?
...that he has big socks... :))
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you know what they say about a man with big feet?
Big shoes
They also go by the name Sasquatch?
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I'm sure that you have seen the beef jerky commercials...don't mess with Sasquatch!! ;-)
My youngest daughter (11) isn't impressed with a lot of the cards that I purchase (and I buy a LOT). She absolutely loves these!
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I'm sure that you have seen the beef jerky commercials...don't mess with Sasquatch!! ;-)
My youngest daughter (11) isn't impressed with a lot of the cards that I purchase (and I buy a LOT). She absolutely loves these!
Did you pose for this deck...
(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/img006-1_zpsef561dfe.jpg)
The court cards bare a striking resemblance to you...
(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/links_zpscb0468b3.jpg)
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Actually, that's my brother.
:-)
My dad is 6'8", 280 lbs, and wears a 15. I'm a runt at only 6'2" and 240.