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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Playing Card Plethora => Topic started by: Ben K on December 23, 2012, 08:38:30 AM
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Named Ultimate Deck
Design by Stranger and Stranger
Produced by Dan and Dave
Hi all, not sure if this has already been posted but I found a new deck coming out soon and have found almost no other info on it. Maybe somebody out there can help fill in the details.
Each card face has been created by a different artist (I assume) and it comes as a two deck set in a magnetic box. Gilded edges and tax stamped, its got all the bells and whistles.
Here is the link that I found on notcot.com as well as there write up
http://www.notcot.com/archives/2012/12/stranger-stranger-ultimate-deck.php
"Stranger & Stranger, you’ve outdone yourselves once again. Following their Holiday Spirits of the past few years, “to celebrate the year we broke out of our alcohol comfort zone and designed premium olive oils, fine foods, luxury luggage, and just plain crazy new stuff, we teamed up with the amazing Dan & Dave to create this, our Ultimate Deck.” And broke out of their alcohol they did! Previously, anyone who asked me for suggestions on alcohol packaging, i undoubtedly told them, Stranger & Stranger! Well it sounds like it has been quite the year for the incredible design group… and these cards (no surprise) are STUNNING, down to the tiniest of details! From the matte black magnetic box… to the velvety pouches… to the festive ambigram… to the seal on the deck… to the gilded edges of the deck… to the artwork adorning each card… it’s a magnificent deck of cards! And the quality is incredible, as are all Dan & Dave cards (like the awesome Fulton’s Clip Joint Playing Cards we wrote about previously)… take a peek at all the incredible details of Stranger & Stranger’s Ultimate Deck on the next page!" -www.Notcot.com
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This deck looks awesome! Can't wait till we get more info, especially price. I have a feeling this will be an expensive one, especially if they only come in that set with the book.
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It's cool and all that, but it's an art deck. You get one or two of those, you have enough to last a lifetime. While I like decorative and custom, I prefer practical to be in the mix somewhere as well.
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That 4 of Spades is so BBM.
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It looks pretty cool. In my opinion, it's better than the Anne Stokes decks simply because they have far more variety in artwork. Also, is it me, or does it seem you get two decks with every order because of the size of the magnetic box? Also, this deck seems like the first I am going to get with gilded edges, so that's a plus. That's only if the price isn't too high though. I'm loving the box also.
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It looks pretty cool. In my opinion, it's better than the Anne Stokes decks simply because they have far more variety in artwork. Also, is it me, or does it seem you get two decks with every order because of the size of the magnetic box? Also, this deck seems like the first I am going to get with gilded edges, so that's a plus. That's only if the price isn't too high though. I'm loving the box also.
What makes the Anne Stokes decks better (including her Alchemy decks) is that the design is consistent. A club will look the same from card to card, the indices are drawn in a consistent manner, appear in the same place, at the same size and are easily read in a fan, etc. It's attractive as art, but not very useful as playing cards - hence, it's an art deck, a la Black Rock.
BTW: art decks of this nature, with multiple contributors, tend to have a higher price tag as a result, for the same reasons why it's cheaper to hire a solo guitarist than a band, and a band is cheaper than an orchestra.
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I actually don't like it too much. The design and detail are incredible, but I feel it's too haphazard. If they stuck to just a few artists, like the ones that designed the 8 of spades, ace of hears, 3 of clubs, 5&4 of spades, etc. I would say this deck would have a design consistent enough to have a fantastic, detailed, diverse design. I feel like the vintage, dark elements of the deck contrast too sharply with cards like the 7 of spades, 10 of diamonds, 9 of diamonds, 5 of hearts, etc.
I also feel like Dan and Dave might be stepping away from their real sense of quality here. They've preached beauty through simplicity with the Smoke and Mirrors deck, the Vintage Plaid, and the Ace Fulton's casino. Most of their cards are also designed for cardists, with a fantastic feel and all around great handling. But gilded decks are TERRIBLE for magic/cardistry/sleights. The De'Vo Blood Metal deck had the worst fan I've ever seen, and were tough to hold on to. I feel like the magnetic box and gilded edges are just to gimmicky for me.
May or may not pick one up. Completely dependent on the price.
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I actually don't like it too much. The design and detail are incredible, but I feel it's too haphazard. If they stuck to just a few artists, like the ones that designed the 8 of spades, ace of hears, 3 of clubs, 5&4 of spades, etc. I would say this deck would have a design consistent enough to have a fantastic, detailed, diverse design. I feel like the vintage, dark elements of the deck contrast too sharply with cards like the 7 of spades, 10 of diamonds, 9 of diamonds, 5 of hearts, etc.
I also feel like Dan and Dave might be stepping away from their real sense of quality here. They've preached beauty through simplicity with the Smoke and Mirrors deck, the Vintage Plaid, and the Ace Fulton's casino. Most of their cards are also designed for cardists, with a fantastic feel and all around great handling. But gilded decks are TERRIBLE for magic/cardistry/sleights. The De'Vo Blood Metal deck had the worst fan I've ever seen, and were tough to hold on to. I feel like the magnetic box and gilded edges are just to gimmicky for me.
May or may not pick one up. Completely dependent on the price.
I get the feeling it's the equivalent of commissioned work. D&D herded the project through USPC for S&S, in other words, and it's mostly S&S's deck, not D&D's.
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I honestly think this deck looks incredibly tacky. I like gilded edges and I even kind of like the backs, but what in the world is the theme? Ultimateness? It looks like exactly what it is; a bunch of random ideas thrown together in card box.
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I actually don't like it too much. The design and detail are incredible, but I feel it's too haphazard. If they stuck to just a few artists, like the ones that designed the 8 of spades, ace of hears, 3 of clubs, 5&4 of spades, etc. I would say this deck would have a design consistent enough to have a fantastic, detailed, diverse design. I feel like the vintage, dark elements of the deck contrast too sharply with cards like the 7 of spades, 10 of diamonds, 9 of diamonds, 5 of hearts, etc.
I agree with this bit. I Don't honestly like it, lots of good art work but an art deck with gilded edges. Sorry.
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Very interesting to hear everyone's take. I am big on art and for that alone I am drawn to the deck.
I would love to see all the artwork and not just part to get my finally opinion but with what's there I have to agree that it's inconsistent, tacky, haphazard...etc.
this makes me sad because there are parts I admire but not worth it as a whole.
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I actually don't like it too much. The design and detail are incredible, but I feel it's too haphazard. If they stuck to just a few artists, like the ones that designed the 8 of spades, ace of hears, 3 of clubs, 5&4 of spades, etc. I would say this deck would have a design consistent enough to have a fantastic, detailed, diverse design. I feel like the vintage, dark elements of the deck contrast too sharply with cards like the 7 of spades, 10 of diamonds, 9 of diamonds, 5 of hearts, etc.
I also feel like Dan and Dave might be stepping away from their real sense of quality here. They've preached beauty through simplicity with the Smoke and Mirrors deck, the Vintage Plaid, and the Ace Fulton's casino. Most of their cards are also designed for cardists, with a fantastic feel and all around great handling. But gilded decks are TERRIBLE for magic/cardistry/sleights. The De'Vo Blood Metal deck had the worst fan I've ever seen, and were tough to hold on to. I feel like the magnetic box and gilded edges are just to gimmicky for me.
May or may not pick one up. Completely dependent on the price.
I get the feeling it's the equivalent of commissioned work. D&D herded the project through USPC for S&S, in other words, and it's mostly S&S's deck, not D&D's.
True, true. But I still feel like Dan and Dave could have interjected some small opinions if they were going to have their names on it.
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Three cards from this deck - Benjamin Carr benjamincarr.co.uk/The-Ultimate-Deck (http://benjamincarr.co.uk/The-Ultimate-Deck)
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Tweeted by the Buck twins not even an hour ago:
"Join us THIS FRIDAY for our second release of 2013. Not sure how we're going to top this one."
Not sure what it is and hoping it'll be cool! I haven't heard anything yet. (Hype hype hype!)
EDIT: the one thing mentioned in the third post reminded me that I had forgotten D&D's collaboration with Stranger and Stranger. Seems to me that it could be the Ultimate Deck!
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can't wait to see what is is probably its the milk bottles ?
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can't wait to see what is is probably its the milk bottles ?
The Anything is Possible bottles were released in December. I'm assuming this release will be the Ultimate Deck and possibly matching uncuts.
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can't wait to see what is is probably its the milk bottles ?
The Anything is Possible bottles were released in December. I'm assuming this release will be the Ultimate Deck and possibly matching uncuts.
How that managed to slip my mind is beyond me :/ haha totally forgot about the Ultimate Deck
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My heart skipped a beat when I read "Ultimate deck"
But the more I'm digging into this, the more likely it seems that Stranger and Stranger had it produced as their Christmas present to give out, rather than something available to the public.
I do hope it's not another recolor or reprint. I'll be staking it out. Paypal at the ready.
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My heart skipped a beat when I read "Ultimate deck"
But the more I'm digging into this, the more likely it seems that Stranger and Stranger had it produced as their Christmas present to give out, rather than something available to the public.
I do hope it's not another recolor or reprint. I'll be staking it out. Paypal at the ready.
I suspect that the Ultimate Deck was a lot like the Robert Graham deck. They never actually distributed that deck unless it was a mystery deck or part of a Variety Box. I think this might be something different that they've kept off the radar. We don't even know for certain that it's a deck - it could be another Variety Box, a DVD, salad tongs, spare tires; y'know, the usual stuff they carry at Dan & Dave's Goods and Sundry Items... :))
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I dont trust D&D anymore...
After the last "scam" (the V7s) I dont really care about what they do...
This seems a little bit different but im not going to fall for their marketing...
Ill wait...
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I personally think it's a really great looking deck of playing cards featuring some incredible artwork from many of the products Stranger & Stranger have helped design and brand. @mrmollusk is correct, If you read the various blogs about it, they weren't ever really made to be sold but as a care package and a holiday gift for various clients and friends of Stranger & Stranger. D&D just helped them produce the deck. The box is probably the most spectacular part in my opinion (black embossed foil on black) but, if there are any uncut sheets out there, it would make for a much better wall piece than most other uncuts.
i don't think think S&S or D&D had magicians or cardists in mind for this deck...so i'd consider it a bonus to us if they do sell them on their site.
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tl;dr: We're releasing our 17th release this week, and want you to join us to overpay for a mediocre deck of cards that will never retain its value because we release so many fucking decks.
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Well, Dan and Dave just posted the Ultimate Deck as their cover photo on facebook.
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haha, i expected as much from @alex. 'meh, i'll just spend my time contributing to this forum by being negative. post.'
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Expect the Ultimate Deck, people. Just saying ;)
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Expect the Ultimate Deck, people. Just saying ;)
Gee, ya think? Was the Facebook header a giveaway for ya? :))
I'll just merge the two topics, then.
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My heart skipped a beat when I read "Ultimate deck"
But the more I'm digging into this, the more likely it seems that Stranger and Stranger had it produced as their Christmas present to give out, rather than something available to the public.
I do hope it's not another recolor or reprint. I'll be staking it out. Paypal at the ready.
I suspect that the Ultimate Deck was a lot like the Robert Graham deck. They never actually distributed that deck unless it was a mystery deck or part of a Variety Box. I think this might be something different that they've kept off the radar. We don't even know for certain that it's a deck - it could be another Variety Box, a DVD, salad tongs, spare tires; y'know, the usual stuff they carry at Dan & Dave's Goods and Sundry Items... :))
You forgot D&D custom potpourri.
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You forgot D&D custom potpourri.
But how does it fan? Does it clump?
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You forgot D&D custom potpourri.
But how does it fan? Does it clump?
If it clumps at least it'll be good for cuts
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You forgot D&D custom potpourri.
But how does it fan? Does it clump?
If it clumps at least it'll be good for cuts
And smell good too while your performing!
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You forgot D&D custom potpourri.
But how does it fan? Does it clump?
If it clumps at least it'll be good for cuts
And smell good too while your performing!
OK, OK, that's enough now. Move along, nothin' to see here... :))
Let's keep closer to the topic - the Ultimate deck. Is it really ultimate? What about the Ultimate Marked Deck? That was ultimate, too... :))
Seriously, though, D&D or not, it's an art deck. Who wants to buy this?
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Whatever it is, it will be released 8PM PST!
From their Twitter again:
"Siri, remind me to visit dananddave.com tomorrow night at 8pm PST."
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You forgot D&D custom potpourri.
But how does it fan? Does it clump?
If it clumps at least it'll be good for cuts
And smell good too while your performing!
OK, OK, that's enough now. Move along, nothin' to see here... :))
Let's keep closer to the topic - the Ultimate deck. Is it really ultimate? What about the Ultimate Marked Deck? That was ultimate, too... :))
Seriously, though, D&D or not, it's an art deck. Who wants to buy this?
I like art decks. The collector in me loves this deck. I like the art, and the gilded edges are pretty cool. Me want.
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It's a great art deck for sure, especially if you're a fan of Stranger & Stranger's artwork & designs.
I've seen the photos of the cards with gilded edges however the deck I have does not have gilded edges. Perhaps a smaller batch were made for the exclusive clients of S&S with gilded edges....we'll see tonight.
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This deck is coming out tonight!
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Link is live!
http://shop.dananddave.com/ultimate-deck.html
If I'm reading this right it's $24.95 per deck :/ and the corresponding uncut sheet for $64.95! I guess I will pass on it this time :(
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This product baffles me.
"Featuring 54 unique works of art, and an elaborate back design."
- So were the Anne Stokes decks, still no where near this price tag.
"Packaged in a gorgeous tuck-case of extraordinary detail that incorporates embossed elements and foil accents."
- Embossed elements, and foil accents? Weren't the Rebels that way?
"Each deck is hand sealed with a vintage-inspired tax stamp, perforated for easy opening."
- Weren't the Mystery decks "hand-sealed"? Still sold for only like $5. I doubt the jagged tax stamps did much, because the Rebels again had them, and their still under $10.
Then again, I not one to complain. This deck, in my eyes, is beautiful, and as with certain pieces of art, they have their own price tags. Although I might not be getting this deck personally, i might be getting them in my Custom AIP. I've been meaning to get one, and this may be my change.
P.S. - Oh, and the edges are shiny too!
P.P.S. - if the backs are not metallic, why did D&D/S&S decide to make the back design dark on dark. If it was metallic, I could see the reason, but for now, I don't.
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It's an art deck, and the lack of borders on the fronts makes for a very irregular look. It's not something I'd use in a magic routine, the irregular indices make it impractical for even playing solitaire and I just gave away the last similar art deck I had. If it was cheaper, I'd consider it. For this price, I can pass without regrets.
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Dang, I was interested in this deck since it's unique and I don't really need a deck to perform magic with... but as most can agree, that price is a bit ridiculous. But I guess that just fits with some of the other D&D business decisions.
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I confess I feel divided.
It's expensive? Yes it is.
It has no borders? No. Artifice decks doesn't have borders but they are still great.
Is it beautiful? Yes.
It's not pratical for a magic routine? No it isn't. But not all of my decks serve magic purposes.
If they sold this with the box, depending on the price, I would be more sure.
I really don't know. Part of me wants to buy it. The other part of me calls me crazy!
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If they sold this with the box, depending on the price, I would be more sure.
What do you mean when you say "if they sold this with the box"? Doesn't the deck already come into the box?
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If they sold this with the box, depending on the price, I would be more sure.
What do you mean when you say "if they sold this with the box"? Doesn't the deck already come into the box?
I think ruicorreia meant this box, not the tuck box. Cause I think the D&D site pictures showing this deck does not show this box but just the tuck.
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If they sold this with the box, depending on the price, I would be more sure.
What do you mean when you say "if they sold this with the box"? Doesn't the deck already come into the box?
I think ruicorreia meant this box, not the tuck box. Cause I don't think the D&D site pictures showing this deck does not show this box but just the tuck.
I'm thinking that was the presentation box for these decks when Stranger and Stranger was giving them out as holiday presents. They really must have blown a fortune getting this whole package made.
But think, Ruicorreia: that box holds a two-deck set. At least $50 at current D&D prices...
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If they sold this with the box, depending on the price, I would be more sure.
What do you mean when you say "if they sold this with the box"? Doesn't the deck already come into the box?
I think ruicorreia meant this box, not the tuck box. Cause I think the D&D site pictures showing this deck does not show this box but just the tuck.
Exactly.
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That "collectors' box", I guess you can call it that, is actually really attractive in my opinion. I like that little saying thing on the inside of the lid. If my eyes don't deceived me it looks like the decks can come in a little protective sock like thing that are sometimes used for phones. I'm not sure how I feel about that though.
I would get this deck for collection sake if it was maybe even half the price but the current tag on it is just ridiculous for one deck. I actually think if they wanted to make more money off this one deck, they could do sort of the opposite as Emmanuel Jose. Turn each card into a proportional two foot long card/poster and sell those individually. That would make money I'm sure and I'd buy a few select cards! :)
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Oh, man. If I was to get this deck, I'd want to get the uncut sheet. I think it looks AWESOME. The tuck box looks pretty classy too.
But I agree with all of you... that price... :mindf-ck: :mindf-ck: :mindf-ck:
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the uncut comes with a deck
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the uncut comes with a deck
Ja. So if you buy the uncut sheet you can have the full aesthetics of the deck, and keep the deck sealed.
I'm assuming the gilded edges would slosh the handling. Plus, Blades Blood Metal edition has shiny edges, so I've already experienced the full effect.
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the uncut comes with a deck
Ja. So if you buy the uncut sheet you can have the full aesthetics of the deck, and keep the deck sealed.
I'm assuming the gilded edges would slosh the handling. Plus, Blades Blood Metal edition has shiny edges, so I've already experienced the full effect.
Well, this deck wasn't really made for flourishing, so you could kind of see this deck will be made with gilded edges.
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...got mine yesterday (along with a bunch of others) You have to take it for what it is - an art and collector's deck. Unless you got real good at identifying each picture it's practically worthless for anything else. This would be a good deck to buy as a sheet and get framed.
It's too bad, I actually like the name and the box - better than the actual deck. I wish there were different cards in this cool box
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Got my decks and uncut, the decks are not gilded for what it is worth. Bought the uncut to hang on the wall...
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Hello to all my fellow posters from UC. For those who don't know me, I have lurked here for a while but had not joined TD, probably just out of laziness. I hope that I can contribute in a meaningful and helpful way. Along those lines...
The Ultimate Deck box set that you saw in the UD pre-release pics will be available "soon" in a "very limited quantity". I don't know if the velvet bags are included, or exactly what "soon" or in a "very limited quantity" mean.
Yeah, I'm just as curious as all of you are.
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The Ultimate Deck box set that you saw in the UD pre-release pics will be available "soon" in a "very limited quantity". I don't know if the velvet bags are included, or exactly what "soon" or in a "very limited quantity" mean.
Yeah, I'm just as curious as all of you are.
So, what you're saying is that this is somewhat like TBC's luxury crown deck, with a standard version that's been released and a shiny version with velvet bag and gilded edges that will probably be only attainable in that 2 deck box, which will be released "soon".
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From what I understand, yes, you are correct, but technically with the collector's item being the storage box for the two decks!
The question will boil down to this...will it be two decks and the box for $50, or $75 ( or more)? What will be ya value of that little box, albeit cool and a really nice design, to casual or serious collectors? I'm sure that it will be a polarizing subject!
I don't know if there will be gilded decks, or just standard ones, as part of the deal. I got the impression that was all still being worked out, but there has apparently been a great deal of interest in the set as a whole.
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From what I understand, yes, you are correct, but technically with the collector's item being the storage box for the two decks!
The question will boil down to this...will it be two decks and the box for $50, or $75 ( or more)? What will be ya value of that little box, albeit cool and a really nice design, to casual or serious collectors? I'm sure that it will be a polarizing subject!
I don't know if there will be gilded decks, or just standard ones, as part of the deal. I got the impression that was all still being worked out, but there has apparently been a great deal of interest in the set as a whole.
I get the feeling that the gilded decks were the ones produced initially for Stranger and Stranger to give out as company holiday gifts late last year, and that D&D worked out a deal when they designed the deck to allow them to carry a "plainer", different version without gilding.
As far as the boxes and velvet bags, I always thought they were part of the corporate gift packages S&S were distributing. Are you certain they'll become available as a future D&D release?
As far as worth - as interesting as the deck is, I don't think it's worth the $25 that D&D are charging now, so I'm thinking that whatever they charge for the fancier set (assuming they even carry it sometime) will also likely be similarly overpriced. It's a pass for me all around. Give me those Steamboats and New Fan Backs!
BTW: Bigger Dee, DJT - welcome to the Discourse. You should make an "Introduce Yourself" topic; I'm sure you'll get plenty of people coming out of the woodwork to welcome you as well.
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Don, thank you for the welcome!
Oddly enough, I found out by asking! We had talked about it on UC, so I contacted D&D about it. They stated that it wasn't part of their package, and suggested that I get in touch with Stranger & Stranger. I did, and the person there gave me the heads-up. This person had obviously answered that same question before, and I got the strong impression that it was already in the works to do a very limited (their words) release. That should be easy to accomplish. The artwork, stock selection, test runs, et cetera, were done initially for their employee handout, or whatever the initial boxes were used for, so it would just be a matter of having a larger print run done. I wish that I had more details, but tats all that I have heard so far, although I was told that I'd be kept in the loop when more details were released.
I'm purely a collector, so my decks will never be opened so the beatifically detailed tucks ( I personally LOVE the tax stamp like seal!) in a matching detailed box is icing on the cake for me! I was very excited to hear that info from them, especially since I wasn't even confident that they would call back! I'll believe it when I see it, but I am very optimistic that we'll have something soon! I just hope that it's not priced like its solid gold!
I do agree that $25 is steep for a deck, but when you really think about the number of artists that contributed, as we as the probable production cost of the deck itself, it's not totally unreasonable, whether you choose to buy or not. I'm in for a few. I've bought far pricier decks than this one! Heck, you'd think that I would be skinny based on how little cash is left for food after all of the new cards are purchased every month!! :)
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Sit down for this one kids, trust me!
I just received word that a "limited" number of the boxed decks will be available. Two gilded decks, rack in its own velvet bag, in the collector box. Exactly as you saw in the pictures.
$200 each. Plus shipping.
I did tell you to sit down first!
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Wow... Good thing I was sitting :) but $200 is quite the price tag for this boxed edition. With that kind of money I could buy a blue, sign LTD deck :)) but hmmm wonder how many takers there would be for that sucker.
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Just think about it. The decks are $50/2. You're paying the extra $150 for gilding, two velvet bags, and a paper box, albeit a cool one. I was guessing $100-$125 for the set.
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Sit down for this one kids, trust me!
I just received word that a "limited" number of the boxed decks will be available. Two gilded decks, rack in its own velvet bag, in the collector box. Exactly as you saw in the pictures.
$200 each. Plus shipping.
I did tell you to sit down first!
LOL. That's something else, man.
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The sad part is...
I still want one. I'm hoping my common sense (if in fact I do have any) will kick in and keep me from dropping the cash.
Some more information: According to what I have read, at Christmas, S&S sends out a Christmas bottle. Usually a bottle of a specially selected spirit with a custom designed label/box. From what I have read online, 3 years ago they produced around 300 of these bottles to give out. Presumably to clients and maybe employees. This card set/box was what they produced and gave out this past Christmas, so it may be safe to guess that there are around 300 (give or take) of the sets in the hands of their clients/employees. Add to that the number that they will produce (?) for this promotion and you can surmise what would be the general ballpark number for total sets produced if scarcity/exclusivity is one of your goals for collecting this box. Of course, i would bet that a lot of the previously distributed boxes/decks have been opened, so that would leave the "Unopened set" number considerably smaller.
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Have you heard if these will be sold directly from the company or will they be doing it through D$D
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Directly through Stranger & Stranger.
They are having a pre-offer now for folks that talked with them specifically about it beforehand, but they will be advertised for general sales once the pre-sale is over.
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Has anyone here bought, or heard of anyone else buying, one of the box sets? I'm curious.
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Has anyone here bought, or heard of anyone else buying, one of the box sets? I'm curious.
At that price, I couldn't be incurious enough...
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There was a tweet by Dan and Dave saying that you can email stranger and stranger about the boxes. For $200 + shipping you get the nice looking box, 2 decks, and 2 pocket style bags to hold the decks in. Did I mention they want $57 for international shipping :-[
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Literally just posted something on this, found a giveaway for the cards on Beast.com, two chances to win - one on FB one on Twitter. Just go to my post for the link!
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Jennifer, I did see your post and entered. Thanks for the heads-up!
Don, I know what you mean. It may wind up being one of the most rare collector's items simply because so very few folks are likely to spring for the set, and then keep it pristine. I love rarity, but not when it doesn't at least keep it's value!
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I ended up breaking down and bought an uncut sheet seeing as how it's 'art'...yada yada. Anyway d&d released a second print of uncuts, I was mad at first but then got over it because the second run also sold out.
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Not to be a smart aleck, but technically, unless an item is produced until the end of time, everything is "limited edition". I always remind myself of that whenever the "limited edition" aspect of a product becomes the deciding factor in one of my purchases. I try to throttle myself back to more of a "I want it because I really like it, not because it's limited" thought before I toss down hard-earned cash. I want one because I like it, and the "limited edition" factor is a bit of gravy, but I thought the same thing as you. "Hey, our limited edition sold out, so let's keep printing more runs of it!!". That does suck. When I saw that e-mail come across my inbox, my first thought was that there were going to be a lot of mad folks! Hate that you got stuck in that.
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BiggerDee I agree with you on the limited aspect and enjoyment factor, glad I got it.
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Being only a collector myself, I understand and completely agree with you.
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I ended up breaking down and bought an uncut sheet seeing as how it's 'art'...yada yada. Anyway d&d released a second print of uncuts, I was mad at first but then got over it because the second run also sold out...now a friggen third print of the 'limited' uncut. What is limited about it?! Seriously?
At this point I am skeptical of the words "limited edition". It's all limited edition eventually but if you say limited to 200 then stick by your friggen word. I see why their are many disappointed fans.
As I see it, in a world with almost seven billion people living on it - that's 7,000,000,000; a lot of zeroes - the existence of anything in quantities of even a few tens of thousands is rare, never mind a few hundred. If they made as much as 70,000 uncut sheets, there will still only be one in existence for every TEN THOUSAND people on the planet. At even 700, they're the proverbial "one in a million".
Did they make ANY changes whatsoever to the uncut? I'd think they'd at least update the copyright date to this year, since the deck was produced last year. (Assuming there is a copyright date anywhere on it...)
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As I see it, in a world with over seven billion people living on it - that's 7,000,000,000; a lot of zeroes - the existence of anything in quantities of even a few tens of thousands is rare, never mind a few hundred.
Did they make ANY changes whatsoever to the uncut? I'd think they'd at least update the copyright date to this year, since the deck was produced last year. (Assuming there is a copyright date anywhere on it...)
I agree and from the collector standpoint I'm cool. Not planning on selling mine, its going straight to the wall. I'm happy that more people will have a chance to grab this uncut and I understand it reaches a broad audience and thus reprints.
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If anyone is still looking for this in the UK or Europe we have a few left and will get some more soon..
http://jpplayingcards.co.uk/the-ultimate-deck
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I just ordered my uncut sheet and I am happy :) First time I lose the opportunity to buy it, because I was waiting for an answer from Stranger&Stranger to get that lovely box (150$ is too much for a nice box). But S&S doesn't sell uncuts and D&D doesn't sell boxes, so shipping should be fun. So I drop the idea to get that box and I get one uncut and a few other decks.
I saw on ebay that an uncut sheet was sold for 85$. If I've remember the uncut comes with a deck, isn't it?
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Mirciusx, yep the uncut comes with a deck too. It's a great deal, congrats! Thanks for the eBay pricing, happy to know its holding its value.
Heads up the box is not cellophaned only stamp sealed.
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I just ordered my uncut sheet and I am happy :) First time I lose the opportunity to buy it, because I was waiting for an answer from Stranger&Stranger to get that lovely box (150$ is too much for a nice box). But S&S doesn't sell uncuts and D&D doesn't sell boxes, so shipping should be fun. So I drop the idea to get that box and I get one uncut and a few other decks.
I saw on ebay that an uncut sheet was sold for 85$. If I've remember the uncut comes with a deck, isn't it?
Well, the uncuts are back in stock on the website.
With shipping, they should come to about $85.
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One uncut + a deck and another 7 decks - 18$ to NY, else 45$ to Europe.
I think the cheapest are Seasons (4 decks+ a tshirt - 8$ to NY or 21$ to Europe). E have expensive shipping even to US (NY), sometimes more than 30$ for almost 30 decks; same T11...:(
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Touch of Modern has them for $18 now.
https://www.touchofmodern.com/sales/ultimate-deck/ultimate-deck
But then again, I've never heard of anyone ordering from this site, the shipping is 3-4 WEEKS, and you can't return them.
If the website's legit though, this is a pretty good deal.
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Touch of Modern has them for $18 now.
https://www.touchofmodern.com/sales/ultimate-deck/ultimate-deck
But then again, I've never heard of anyone ordering from this site, the shipping is 3-4 WEEKS, and you can't return them.
If the website's legit though, this is a pretty good deal.
That sounds like a "too good to be true" price. Combined with the fact that they've been sending me WAAAAY too many emails since I subscribed and I'm thinking something doesn't smell right in Denmark...
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Touch of Modern has them for $18 now.
https://www.touchofmodern.com/sales/ultimate-deck/ultimate-deck
But then again, I've never heard of anyone ordering from this site, the shipping is 3-4 WEEKS, and you can't return them.
If the website's legit though, this is a pretty good deal.
That sounds like a "too good to be true" price. Combined with the fact that they've been sending me WAAAAY too many emails since I subscribed and I'm thinking something doesn't smell right in Denmark...
True, that.
Strange things are afoot at the Circle K. If anyone's brave enough to give these guys a credit card number, it'd be interesting to hear from them.
Then again, if you have no qualms about creating 10 fake email accounts, you could hypothetically get these for free.
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Touch of Modern has them for $18 now.
https://www.touchofmodern.com/sales/ultimate-deck/ultimate-deck
But then again, I've never heard of anyone ordering from this site, the shipping is 3-4 WEEKS, and you can't return them.
If the website's legit though, this is a pretty good deal.
That sounds like a "too good to be true" price. Combined with the fact that they've been sending me WAAAAY too many emails since I subscribed and I'm thinking something doesn't smell right in Denmark...
True, that.
Strange things are afoot at the Circle K. If anyone's brave enough to give these guys a credit card number, it'd be interesting to hear from them.
Then again, if you have no qualms about creating 10 fake email accounts, you could hypothetically get these for free.
I know Jackson did make a refference about Touch of Modern, when the Fed 52 part 2 was on there. I assume he autherized sales on the site. Maybe he will chime in about it.
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18$ is a good deal. Touchofmodern is 100% legit. Keep in mind they also charge shipping costs, and only ship within US/Canada.
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I've ordered from them, and currently have an open order for some of the Fed52 decks. I received an e-mail from them a few days ago telling me that the supplier was preparing to ship them out, for what that's worth. I also have some pre-ordered elsewhere. They seem to do a lot of pre-orders. They don't buy 200 of an item, they take pre-orders a week or two in advance and then order that many of the item. I didn't see the S&S decks out there, but that's one of my faves, so I'll have to go out and get a few more. I just wish that I had bought an uncut back in the day.
ToMo is definitely legit. They don't run a ton of volume since almost all of their items are much higher-end offerings. Think of them like the MoMA store.
BTW, there seems to be a limit of 5.
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Just received an e-mail that my decks were "awaiting carrier pickup". If true, that's fast shipping, especially since the initial estimates said 3-4 weeks. Order was placed yesterday.
Yep, shipped today from San Francisco via FedEx. That was quick!
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For future reference:
I received my decks yesterday. Five unwrapped (no individual bubble wrapping, et cetera) decks in a padded envelope (the one that is padded with recycled newsprint, and makes a royal mess if you use anything but the pull strip). I opened it up, and 4 of the decks had half of the tax stamp unstuck. Not damaged, just not adhered to the deck. Partly from cold weather and partly from the decks not being wrapped, but rather free-floating in the main envelope. I was able to stick these back on and once the decks came up to room temp, they stayed. The fifth deck had the tax stamp seal torn in half, with half stuck to the inside of the main envelope. Since it was so cold, it didn't adhere well, and I was able to easily remove it from the envelope and attach it to the deck, but since it was tornn in two, it appears that they deck has been opened since the seal is broken. This isn't a problem since I have a brick or so of Strangers, and I always wanted to open one to check out the artwork firsthand, but never could bring myself to do it. None of the tuck cases had any dented corners or scratching from the other decks, so I got lucky there. Bottom line: great decks at a great price from ToMo, but they don't have any idea about the need to pack them well, especially since the ones that they have sold so far have been higher-end collector decks. Here's hoping that the Fed52 decks on order with them will make it ok.
I'm going to contact them and tell them all of this in the hopes that they will make a beter efforf witht he card decks for future buyers. All in all, I'd order decks from them again if they offered something that I liked.
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Aw, darn it... I totally missed these! $18 is definitely a good deal. I already have this deck, but I've always wanted another one to open. I wish I could somehow filter my ToM modifications so that it only shows me decks on sale. They have a lot of cool stuff on sale, but cards are what I'm most interested in (and the few that I can afford. lol). I did manage to get in an order for the Jackson's Silver Certificate and Reserve Note, though. :)
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These are available on Touch of Modern once again. $18 each plus shipping. Ends Monday!
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Oooh, thanks for letting us know the deadline... for some reason the page I have doesn't tell me when it ends. I can't find it on the "Sale Catalog" page, either...?
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My pleasure, I knew that you'd want to grab some this time! I saw the date on an e-mail that they sent, basically a daily "What's for sale" notification.
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Just received a few more Stranger decks in. They weren't packaged any better, but survived nonetheless.
On an interesting ToMo side note, I ordered some of the Federal 52 Silver Certificate and Reserve Note decks from ToMo when they were announced. I received them today, and was very surprised to see some 200's (out of the edition total of 4000 each) in my shipment. All 200's (except for one deck in the 500's) in a half dozen total. Pleasantly surprised!
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Ok. I bit, and ordered one.
I've been eyeing this deck since day 1 of the teaser. With shipping, the whole thing came to $23, so it's still a MUCH better deal than D&D's. I won't mind if the cello is removed, or the deck is open. I'm not keeping it sealed.
However, I'll be quite cross if the seal is damaged. I love that seal.
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They never were cello wrapped, so no worries there. The seal is the best modern one that I have seen. You will really like it. It will probably be un-stuck on one end, but that will make it easier to open and then re-seal, if you'd like.
They were still available on my daily ToMo e-mail today.
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They never were cello wrapped, so no worries there. The seal is the best modern one that I have seen. You will really like it. It will probably be un-stuck on one end, but that will make it easier to open and then re-seal, if you'd like.
They were still available on my daily ToMo e-mail today.
Ooooh. Ok. I thought the S&S decks were cello sealed.
Sweet. That's all the better then. I usually unstick the lower half of the seal is I can, and then press it onto the tuck flap. That way I don't have to cut it.
Thanks for the heads-up!
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I am mixed on the mixed art of the deck. I really like the tuck box design and the special box the deck is in was cool.
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MrMollusk - Once you see the incredible tuck and stamp, you'll understand why there isn't any cello! It's beautiful!
Jamm - I feel the exact same way as you. I'd like to have an uncut, but I can't decide if I like enough of the art to justify the purchase.
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Just got DandD's most recent Variety box and the Ultimate deck came cello wrapped and featuring a smaller, and more square, seal printed at a slightly lower resolution. I don't remember reading about them packaging their Ultimate Decks any differently but thought it was worth noting. I am likely going to try and pick up one of the original unsealed ones as I opened the only one I had with the expectation I would just be able to replace it whenever I needed to, but the new packaging makes that a little more urgent now.
This also makes me think, as the new smalled seal is more the size of standard USPCC tuck seals but is still perforated like a classic stamp seal, that USPCC might be offering perforated seals now. I believe the S/S Ultimate Decks were never cello wrapped because DandD were applying the perforated seals by hand after getting them in. Any thoughts guys? I know Chris O. had been talking with USPCC back on his Oracle project and they were looking into getting a die for perforated seals, but had never heard any more on the subject, though it was worth a zombie thread here to get more info...?
**I know I'm digging this one up from the grave, but I like to keep my forums clean and minimize creating new posts where I can**
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You talk and walk like detective Sherlock Holmes. If not, not so far, but close.
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This from jpplayingcards.com
This deck was reprinted in late 2014, and now comes cellophane sealed with a slightly different deck seal. the artwork remains identical but this edition has a different ad' card. It's a collection of simply stunning pieces of artwork, 'nuff said!
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I didn't know that. Good to know.
LE> Too bad I didn't get that box from NY at 150$ or 200$ with two decks.