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Title: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: CBJ on November 01, 2011, 11:35:23 AM
One of four new decks from the creator of the Bicycle Pirates decks, Eric Duan aka mloong

Bicycle Rosefinchto be released sometime next month.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DLIetZE3-S4/TrA58Q701MI/AAAAAAAAAO0/vrUW4kUBRLU/s1600/rosefinch+ad.png)

CBJ

Bicycle Green Dragon and Bicycle White Tiger still to come.
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Mrmagic on November 01, 2011, 11:40:19 AM
why all these cards?!!?!? man i need to be rich.
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Evan on November 01, 2011, 03:05:18 PM
Any pics of this deck yet?
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: CBJ on November 01, 2011, 03:18:06 PM
UPDATED with pic
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Evan on November 01, 2011, 03:31:35 PM
Cool! Is there a website for these?
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Kanped on November 01, 2011, 03:34:34 PM
Wow, that's... not pretty.
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: LauR on November 01, 2011, 07:45:47 PM
The court cards are quite interesting, the back however...
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Evan on November 01, 2011, 07:55:42 PM
It looks good except for the back design. And its a one way back.... ewww
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: loldudex2 on November 01, 2011, 08:22:52 PM
Is that 7 of Clubs a gaff card, or the design for the whole deck?
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Evan on November 01, 2011, 08:23:36 PM
Is that 7 of Clubs a gaff card, or the design for the whole deck?
The whole deck is like that.  ???
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: loldudex2 on November 01, 2011, 08:27:47 PM
The whole deck is like that.  ???

I think all of his decks are like that.
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: phantom1412 on November 01, 2011, 08:49:12 PM
The black one is better for me.
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: xela on November 01, 2011, 10:12:55 PM
...Yikes.
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Billywiz on November 01, 2011, 10:39:45 PM
The split colours on the number card pips is interesting,court cards look to busy and miss coloured and the backs....yuke!

Billy.
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Mrmagic on November 02, 2011, 12:05:47 AM
seems not that great. do we know if it will be a limited run?
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: CBJ on November 02, 2011, 12:57:57 AM
seems not that great. do we know if it will be a limited run?

2500 of each color

CBJ
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Mrmagic on November 02, 2011, 01:07:16 AM
no reprints? i might get some. depends on if we have a release date.
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: junjie04 on November 02, 2011, 01:10:33 AM
This is ugly...
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: LauR on November 04, 2011, 07:24:34 AM
I'm gonna buy some and put them with my beyblades
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: xZEROx on February 09, 2012, 04:24:54 AM
Kudos to Kete Moon.

So apparently this deck, along with the Black Warrior, has passed its production stage, should be on its way to the designer (Eric Duan).

Promotion video for the Rosefinch and Black Warrior:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=H5c-8NH7lbA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=H5c-8NH7lbA)
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: digipunk on February 09, 2012, 05:38:20 AM
@sxjy0109, hahaha... you know it's really difficult to express the names of these 2 decks in English, but they decided to produce these 2 decks first  :P :P
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: xZEROx on February 09, 2012, 05:46:02 AM
@sxjy0109, hahaha... you know it's really difficult to express the names of these 2 decks in English, but they decided to produce these 2 decks first  :P :P

Lol yeah I know. It's the more difficult two out of the four.
But I think he should've came up with a better name than Black Warrior. It misleads those who don't know the story behind the series.
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: digipunk on February 09, 2012, 06:13:23 AM
@sxjy0109, yes, so do I think. "Black Warrior" is a poor translation.
 
I found these pages, they provide better explaination of "The 4 Celestial Animals" in ancient China:
http://www.sempai.org/~felicia/myth.html#genbu (http://www.sempai.org/~felicia/myth.html#genbu)
http://www.thefengshuiconcept.com/4_animals.jsp (http://www.thefengshuiconcept.com/4_animals.jsp)
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Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Robert Butler on February 09, 2012, 07:37:15 AM
Something I think that's important to consider is that Eric is an artist from the east and caters to that market.  Funny enough the eastern market is booming just as much as the western market.  Each culture is going to relate to art types differently. 
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: K on February 09, 2012, 08:57:47 AM
Hmm, similar to my post on the black warrior deck, they look really unique but then again, it looks really complicated and cluttered up. And i'm still not a fan of those fully red cards..  :-*
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: digipunk on February 09, 2012, 10:53:02 AM
This series has most profound Chinese style so far. Even Chinese, not everyone can well explain these 2 animals and unfortunately I think the names, "Rosefinch" and "Black Warrior", are both poor translation that might mislead people.
 
@sxjy0109, do you really think "朱雀" means "Rosefinch"? Wasn't it "Phoenix" in ancient China? How could a little bird match the dragon and tiger ???
 
"玄武" is very very difficult to be expressed in other languages (even in Chinese it is hard), but obviously "Black Warrior" is far away from its original meaning.
 
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Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 09, 2012, 11:28:20 AM
Wow, what a nice deck!
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: xZEROx on February 09, 2012, 03:52:41 PM
@sxjy0109, do you really think "朱雀" means "Rosefinch"? Wasn't it "Phoenix" in ancient China? How could a little bird match the dragon and tiger ???
 
"玄武" is very very difficult to be expressed in other languages (even in Chinese it is hard), but obviously "Black Warrior" is far away from its original meaning.

I did a little search, and many seem to disagree with Phoenix. Despite the reliability of wiki, this is what showed up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermilion_Bird

玄武 is even harder. I don't know where to begin with this... Black Warrior isn't even close. At least the Rosefinch got the species right. o.O

Wow, what a nice deck!

Nathan, this isn't constructive at all. You've asked your fellow member to be so, for what you yourself have not done.
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: CBJ on February 10, 2012, 08:30:56 AM
Really not a fan of the name on this one.

CBJ
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Jin Jian on March 08, 2012, 06:02:13 AM
any idea where i can buy this cards?? and also the promotion video has being taken down
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: xZEROx on March 08, 2012, 06:11:15 AM
Interesting...
I'll see if I can contact the designer and see what's going on.
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: bmpokerworld on March 08, 2012, 06:15:52 AM
any idea where i can buy this cards?? and also the promotion video has being taken down

We will have these available on our website shortly.
Thanks!
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Evan on March 08, 2012, 08:30:40 AM
any idea where i can buy this cards?? and also the promotion video has being taken down

We will have these available on our website shortly.
Thanks!
Do you have a price that you can share with us? Thanks
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: CBJ on March 09, 2012, 07:15:24 PM
This deck is now available from PokerStud52

1 deck
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-DECK-Bicycle-Rosefinch-playing-cards-NEW-/300676118042?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4601b1761a

2 decks
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-DECKS-Bicycle-Rosefinch-playing-cards-NEW-/251013586155?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a71935ceb

(click pics for larger view)

CBJ
Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: CBJ on March 09, 2012, 07:19:34 PM
2 more pics

(click pics for larger view)


Title: Re: NEW DECK -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Evan on March 09, 2012, 07:22:33 PM
CBJ said on Facebook that they did a bad job scanning the cards.

They made the cards look horrible and really makes me not want to get them.
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: CBJ on March 09, 2012, 07:34:54 PM
I meant ... it looks like PokerStud52 did a really bad job scanning these cards

I wish he'd re-scan them

CBJ
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: xZEROx on March 09, 2012, 08:34:10 PM
Personally I'm really disappointed in the Joker (and I'm pretty sure @digipunk would too).
Glad the court cards are customized, but I don't like how he put the suits again next to the pip.
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Jin Jian on March 09, 2012, 09:06:29 PM
i only like the court cards .. beside that everything look like crap .. the card design i dun really like it i prefer the bicycle pirates design
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Evan on March 09, 2012, 09:30:46 PM
Are the cards pink? Or are they red and just look pink because of the scans?
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: moonexe on March 09, 2012, 10:28:13 PM
I actually hope they're pink, it would change from all the red everywhere. ::)
The court cards look beautiful, not exactly full custom but still a lot more than just a recoloration. I don't understand the scans though, I see an ace of spades that isn'T the same color as the rest...? :-\
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: digipunk on March 09, 2012, 11:00:24 PM
Personally I'm really disappointed in the Joker (and I'm pretty sure @digipunk would too).
Glad the court cards are customized, but I don't like how he put the suits again next to the pip.

hahhaa, my problem is I don't see the back of the cards. There are only box and faces. :-\
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: xZEROx on March 09, 2012, 11:44:44 PM
It should be the design on the back of the box. Also, if you look back to the first post by CBJ, it does seem like the case.
This needs to be confirmed though.
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: digipunk on March 09, 2012, 11:47:50 PM
It should be the design on the back of the box. Also, if you look back to the first post by CBJ, it does seem like the case.
This needs to be confirmed though.

Thanks, I see now. And that's why the seller didn't scan the back... one way design. I have to reconsider this deck... ::)
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: moonexe on March 09, 2012, 11:53:29 PM
They're still very pretty though, I'd definitely want them in my collection regardless. I might not use them too much, but I would love to see them in person. They could be good inspiration for future projects, too. ;)
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: xZEROx on March 09, 2012, 11:54:21 PM
Thanks, I see now. And that's why the seller didn't scan the back... one way design. I have to reconsider this deck... ::)

Take it as a piece of art that resembles our culture. That should make it easier. ;)
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: digipunk on March 10, 2012, 12:39:32 AM
Thanks, I see now. And that's why the seller didn't scan the back... one way design. I have to reconsider this deck... ::)

Take it as a piece of art that resembles our culture. That should make it easier. ;)

Now it's the only reason that may convince me to get the deck. This is not the designers' first deck, I don't understand why it is one-way back again (the Bicycle Pirate deck is already one-way).
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: xZEROx on March 10, 2012, 01:08:17 AM
Lol I know it is, and that's why I'm saying it to convince you.
He's just a designer right? I'm not sure he knows much about magic or even playing cards itself.
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Linguist_ on March 10, 2012, 02:09:20 AM
I just purchased a couple of these from the Ebay seller. I don't see myself using them very much, but I like the Chinese mythology background and the style fits well with it. If I was going to frame some single cards for their aesthetics, I think this deck's Ace of Spades would have to be in there.
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: dmbaggs on March 10, 2012, 03:04:58 AM
Yeah I kind of like the design (it's grown on me) but I'm still unsure. I would love to see a good video review of this one. That way I could really get a good look at the cards and make up my mind on them. I'll be crossing my fingers for a review I guess  ::)
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: LauR on March 10, 2012, 03:38:57 AM
Is this deck going to be sold only by resellers? Does the designer have a website where he sells them?
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Don Boyer on March 10, 2012, 03:40:15 AM
Guys, I have to admit, when I saw these images, I wasn't happy with this deck.  It looks like someone dropped transparent playing cards on some samples in a wallpaper store and used that for the inspiration.  And now it's not just different-colored pips, but half-outline pips?  Why?  It makes no sense.  And having jokers and an Ace of Spades that doesn't match with the rest of the faces is a big turn-off for me.

I'm even considering selling my Pirates.  Two sets, one opened, one sealed.  That's how much I don't like them.

They're better as Linguist put it - to hang on the wall rather than play cards with.
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Aaron on March 10, 2012, 03:48:48 AM
Honestly I like most of the decks by Merz more than these. I hate this deck and hopefully the other 2(or was it 3?) decks in the series are nice.
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: cosmicsecret on March 10, 2012, 05:55:09 AM
I don't like the design at all.Everything looks so rushed and not well thought of. 10USD for this design...well some people gonna pay that price.
 :karrit:
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: xZEROx on March 10, 2012, 06:04:02 AM
I don't like the design at all.Everything looks so rushed and not well thought of. 10USD for this design...well some people gonna pay that price.
 :karrit:

I'm not trying to convince you to like this deck, but I don't think it's completely "rushed and not well thought of". It's got custom court cards, jokers and AoS. Regardless of whether you appreciate the design or not, you have to say more work has been put into the deck than many decks out there where only the back is redesigned, or simply put together using clip arts.

As for the $10USD price, I personally think we couldn't blame the designer for it. It's the trend of the custom decks nowadays. Most decks don't even start off low like the old days in $6.
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Don Boyer on March 10, 2012, 11:41:20 PM

I'm not trying to convince you to like this deck, but I don't think it's completely "rushed and not well thought of". It's got custom court cards, jokers and AoS. Regardless of whether you appreciate the design or not, you have to say more work has been put into the deck than many decks out there where only the back is redesigned, or simply put together using clip arts.

As for the $10USD price, I personally think we couldn't blame the designer for it. It's the trend of the custom decks nowadays. Most decks don't even start off low like the old days in $6.

I will grant you that some work was put into this deck.  But there's a difference between working hard and working smart.

This deck wasn't really designed by someone who is into playing cards, at least based on what I'm seeing.  Having solid indices for black cards but outlined ones for red is not conducive to easy use at the card table, nor is it good for magic.  The face cards are not all that custom - they're standard Bicycle faces with unusual colorations and patterns in them.  Anyone with just a little skill and a fair amount of time could erase sections of a court card and put in those funky patterns.  And having a different, darker color face for the Ace of Spades makes it easily spotted within a shuffled deck.

I understand that this is based on some very old Chinese traditional stories, but they could have been much better executed than this.  These cards are practical for art, maybe as a collector's piece, and possibly for flourishing - and not much else.  I have enough impractical playing cards in my collection, some of which are much better looking that these, and as art they're just not my cup of tea.  Sentinels, Artifice, Infinity - those are art to me and as an added bonus they're actually practical.
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Evan on March 11, 2012, 12:09:57 AM
I don't like the design at all.Everything looks so rushed and not well thought of. 10USD for this design...well some people gonna pay that price.
 :karrit:

I'm not trying to convince you to like this deck, but I don't think it's completely "rushed and not well thought of". It's got custom court cards, jokers and AoS. Regardless of whether you appreciate the design or not, you have to say more work has been put into the deck than many decks out there where only the back is redesigned, or simply put together using clip arts.

As for the $10USD price, I personally think we couldn't blame the designer for it. It's the trend of the custom decks nowadays. Most decks don't even start off low like the old days in $6.
It wasn't rushed. The points about the design that zero made are correct and we've known about this deck for a while and it was just printed recently.
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: Evan on March 13, 2012, 05:53:13 PM
The1eyedjack uploaded a review of the Bicycle Rosefinch deck. Now we can actually see what the cards look like! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DMJ-ODwYF6Q

In my opinion, this deck has its ups and its downs. The back design is interesting and very unique... I don't like the center design and that it is a one way back. But I love the designs that are around the center and they look beautiful in a fan with the different colored corners. The number cards are eh... they are creative but I don't love how they look. The court cards on the other hand, look pretty awesome. They look like they have some sort of floral design around them which I think is really cool and I like how it looks.  :)
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: xZEROx on March 13, 2012, 06:00:47 PM
Here the review MagicAddictz's talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMJ-ODwYF6Q&list=UUwIEVz_FZqL8xf9ty_-kjpQ&index=1&feature=plcp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMJ-ODwYF6Q&list=UUwIEVz_FZqL8xf9ty_-kjpQ&index=1&feature=plcp)

And a picture of the cards if some are too lazy to watch. Sorry for the size, it's what I got from The1eyedjack's website.
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: bmpokerworld on March 14, 2012, 07:59:55 PM
We now have these in stock.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Now Available! -- Bicycle Rosefinch
Post by: moonexe on March 14, 2012, 08:55:07 PM
The court cards are beautiful, the back design could've been much better but is still pretty nice, but the number cards look stupid to me. They're different for the sake of being different. And what's with the different colored ace of spades? That is one of the most ridiculous ideas I've ever seen. I wouldn't even use it for flourishing because of that one card sticking out. Better luck next time.