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Title: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Russell CircleCityCards on August 20, 2012, 09:31:58 AM

Hey everyone!


As a heads up, the Kickstarter project will launch at NOON today! (EDT) As always, because I am a collector first, there will be a limited number of early backers that can get any number of decks for only $5 each.  I believe the Americana $5 slots were filled up within a day, so get on it while you can!


Just a couple notes:
1. There are a few special rewards that are limited to one person, they are fun and unique for sure!
2. Uncut sheets are priced to move, they won't last long for sure.
3. I have easy to attain 'stretch goals' with free upgrades that collectors want.


http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1017676492/quicksilver-playing-card-deck

- Russell
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Evan on August 20, 2012, 11:00:43 AM
This sounds like it's going to be a really cool, successful kickstarter campaign. I'm looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on August 20, 2012, 11:17:39 AM
depending on the end date i might pledge for a few. This is one deck I have been looking forward to.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Evan on August 20, 2012, 12:07:09 PM
Here it is!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1017676492/quicksilver-playing-card-deck
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Russell CircleCityCards on August 20, 2012, 01:14:05 PM
Less than 50 spots remain for the $5 level, act quick!
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on August 20, 2012, 01:22:27 PM
I got 3 via the $5 slot I really liked the fact that its $5 per deck and you can get as many as you want. If I end up having more money when its closer I can increase my pledge and get a few more.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Knobz1 on August 20, 2012, 01:43:13 PM
I went ahead and grabbed 4 decks as well.  Thanks Russell for the early bird special!  ;)
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Jin Jian on August 20, 2012, 02:11:27 PM
grab the $5 spot but haven't decided how many to purchase
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: hazofhorsham on August 20, 2012, 05:11:22 PM
This won't take long to get funded. Awesome deck. Awesome company. Awesome campaign.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: KPopFever605 on August 20, 2012, 05:21:33 PM
We're already 50% there! - I've pledge $41 for my uncut and deck. I can't wait to see this get funded. I really hope the deck will get at lease 200% funded, which I see entirely possible. : D
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Evan on August 20, 2012, 09:52:21 PM
Already at $9,403! These are going to be funded within the first 24 hours!
This deck is going to go far.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: CBJ on August 20, 2012, 10:21:21 PM
Funded in 10 hours 22 mins!!!

Congrats Russell
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Russell CircleCityCards on August 20, 2012, 10:28:10 PM
I'm still in shock!


I'm an old man and it's past my bedtime, I'll have more news tomorrow.


Thanks everyone!
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Evan on August 20, 2012, 10:28:28 PM
Congrats Russell!
I'm glad I can say that I helped it happen!
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Noobmachine on August 20, 2012, 10:33:32 PM
CONGRATS!!! I missed out on the $5 deal, but I just pledged for my uncut and 6 decks, can't wait for them to arrive!  I think I may have been the pledge to get it to $10000, I put my pledge in at $9940 :) Feels cool to have helped out with the making of this deck!
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: hazofhorsham on August 21, 2012, 11:16:01 AM
Congrats. Must be the fastest playing card project?
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Paul Carpenter on August 21, 2012, 02:08:48 PM
I'm not surprised by the speed. It's well deserved, and Russell is a well-known and previously successful card producer and had a very reasonable goal, so I would have been surprised if he didn't fund it quickly. Once you make something people like and show some respect to those that helped make your dream come true, it will naturally get easier the next time around.

(If I can be honest, at least, I sure hope that's the case...)  ;)
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: KPopFever605 on August 21, 2012, 09:40:06 PM
Congratulations Russell! I can't wait to see this deck get the additional touches you mentioned. By the way, can you give a rough estimated (number-wise) about how many decks you are going to release post-Kickstarter?
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Russell CircleCityCards on August 21, 2012, 10:07:55 PM
Post Kickstarter decks will be VERY small quantity, just a few hundred.


Remember though, the decks sold on Kickstarter will be the only ones with foil, embossing, and the special deck seal.  The decks sold afterwards will be in standard tucks.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: NathanCanadas on August 22, 2012, 02:54:16 PM
Congrats! We've now reached 150%, and it now has silver foil on it! Nice job Russel!
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: cosmicsecret on August 22, 2012, 04:33:41 PM
I just pledged for 2 decks :-)
Its not a deck i would use in flourishes or magic but its a nice deck for my collection :)
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: KPopFever605 on August 22, 2012, 07:47:25 PM
In my opinion, I like the blue seal over the green one.

Russell, a few more questions:

1) If When we reach 250%, will the custom brick boxes me limited to Kickstarter backers only?

2) What rewards do you have in mind if we surpass 300%? - I would love posters to give out, just like the Revision1 deck!
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Noobmachine on August 22, 2012, 10:06:08 PM
Managed to snag an uncut and half a brick, I'm glad that this deck is already turning out to be one of the mot successful decks on kickstarter!! I personally think that the green seal is pretty unique and nice, but looks like majority wants the blue :(
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Knobz1 on August 22, 2012, 10:35:05 PM
Managed to snag an uncut and half a brick, I'm glad that this deck is already turning out to be one of the mot successful decks on kickstarter!! I personally think that the green seal is pretty unique and nice, but looks like majority wants the blue :(
I agree with you.  This was a tough choice.  The blue seal is nice because it matches and blends with the box perfectly.  On the other hand the green seal sticks out and is more noticeable.  I like the green seal better in my opinion.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on August 23, 2012, 04:23:17 AM
I really hate the green one. it seems really cheesy and not right for this deck. the blue one was amazing though. and if it gets to/close to the brick boxes I am changing my pledge to a brick.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Evan on August 24, 2012, 01:46:56 PM
Wow! 200% was just hit! Congrats Russell.

"100% - The deck is funded.
125% - The tuck box will have a special Kickstarter tuck seal.
150% - The tuck box will be adorned with silver foil instead of ink.
175% - The tuck box will have embossing in addition to everything above.
200% - All of the above and the decks pledged on Kickstarter will be the only way to get one with with foil and embossing.  Any decks sold afterwards will be in a standard tuck box with a standard seal.  Great perk for early backers!
250% - Custom Brick Boxes (holds 12 decks) and all of the above. (Any reward with over 12 decks will come with the custom boxes)
300% - I'm taking ideas...  Free dice, earplugs, AA batteries, anything...
500% - Will make us the top card deck on Kickstarter!" - Kickstarter page
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Utterfool on August 24, 2012, 09:01:51 PM
Definitely prefer the blue seal.
The green color does not bother me, I think it will stand out nicely and look decent.
I am not fond of the message on it. It makes the deck feel more like an advertising or free giveaway deck. IMO it loses some of the class of the deck... If a deck can have class.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Russell CircleCityCards on August 26, 2012, 05:38:55 PM

My latest update will bring everyone up to speed!

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1017676492/quicksilver-playing-card-deck/posts/296102
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on August 26, 2012, 05:53:10 PM
Just changed my pledge to the brick.I can not wait to get these.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Knobz1 on August 26, 2012, 05:57:20 PM
Awesome!  Thanks for the update Russell.  I will be changing my pledge as well to get a brick of these.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: KPopFever605 on August 26, 2012, 11:39:32 PM
This deck is coming along just wonderfully!

I'm pretty sure that the decks will probably make it past 300%, and because of that, I have already upgraded my pledge to $42.96. I wonder, Russell, what's next?
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: hazofhorsham on August 27, 2012, 11:37:12 AM
At what point do we specify what dice we want? I added $2 to get a pair of each colour, when do we state this?
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Russell CircleCityCards on August 27, 2012, 01:00:13 PM
At what point do we specify what dice we want? I added $2 to get a pair of each colour, when do we state this?


When I send out the survey at the end.  ;)
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: hazofhorsham on August 27, 2012, 02:43:08 PM
Thank you :) (I did suspect that ;) )
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: KPopFever605 on August 27, 2012, 06:46:01 PM
Upon writing this reply, the deck has surpassed 250%, which means...CUSTOM BRICK BOXES! - And it still has 22 days to go.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Russell CircleCityCards on August 28, 2012, 12:24:52 PM

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1017676492/quicksilver-playing-card-deck/posts/297269


If your reward level says you are getting more than 12 decks ($80 tier) please change your reward selection to $1 and keep the same amount of money pledged. This does not effect anyone in the $5/$7 reward levels.


Kickstarter's new rule is you can't have more than 10 of 1 item for sale. shit.


All you need to do is change your reward selection without adjusting the pledge money.


Sorry, I'll have an update soon.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Paul Carpenter on August 28, 2012, 01:51:20 PM

Kickstarter's new rule is you can't have more than 10 of 1 item for sale. shit.


That is crazy awkward! I read your update on my phone and was like "WTH is he doing?" but that is a crummy situation to be stuck in. Guess from now on all card people are going to have to do awkward rewards that force the user to calculate costs out for the decks they want, what a bummer.

Good luck getting it worked out and making sense for everyone.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: john on August 28, 2012, 01:57:11 PM
Russ, could you possibly cheat the system and offer 2 bricks instead of 12 decks, or 1 gross instead of 144 decks.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Russell CircleCityCards on August 28, 2012, 02:36:30 PM
it's not a big deal, just keep your pledge the same and change your reward to the $1 level.

It's a huge hassle for me.




--- edit---


This is officially my last kickstarter. it's now too much of a pain.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: KPopFever605 on August 28, 2012, 02:56:07 PM
I am officially pissed off at this action. So much for a "kickstart", it's more like a "kick in the buttocks". How come Kickstarter just decided to do this with YOUR deck and with the previous decks. I guess, they probably got jealous that your deck was overly popular - if there's such a thing. Hopefully, you can get this problem handled quickly, and I wish you the best of luck.

P.S. Not to push you beyond your limits, but since Kickstarter might not be an option for you the next time around, what company, if any, do you plan on using to finish your trilogy?

Russ, could you possibly cheat the system and offer 2 bricks instead of 12 decks, or 1 gross instead of 144 decks.

Kickstarter won't allow him to make any rewards offering over 10 decks, and renaming the rewards won't fool anyone. I don't think anyways.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on August 28, 2012, 03:31:23 PM
but he would not sell a deck but a brick, its a box. so doing it that way might.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Russell CircleCityCards on August 28, 2012, 03:33:57 PM
There will still be a third deck.   Quicksilver isn't going anywhere either, even if I lose all of those backers I am still way over my goal.  Hopefully most will come back once they realize it was not me but Kickstarter that canceled their pledge.

I'm not going to cheat the system, I don't want to lose ALL my funding.

I'm still emailing KS back and forth trying to work something out, nothing yet.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Utterfool on August 28, 2012, 06:56:17 PM
If kickstarter begins enforcing their no more than 10 rule more fervently, this may be the end of legitimate decks on Kickstarter.
I think this might be an audit issue. I think that because Russell's campaign made so much and broke it's goal so quickly the staff at kickstarter chose to audit it.
You can see by looking through some of the smaller campaigns on kickstarter they don't audit everyone.

If they start auditing the pledge levels it will certainly make it difficult for card designers to use the kickstarter marketing plan.
We will see the disappearance of decks like quicksilver, Tendril and the like
Kickstarter will still be viable for flash in the pan/ money grab decks like those from AlienInks or the art house deck where they charge $20 per deck.

This would be a real shame if it were so. I like kickstarter for getting decks, I can often get decks in numbers that I want and pick up extras that I want like uncut sheets.
It is a toss up when decks are released on a certain date on a small website if I even get the deck at all let alone any extras


Perhaps I am being too hasty to say that Kickstarter is done as a legitimate place to market cards.
But I have heard too many times that Kickstarter is a bit of a hassle and this certainly won't make it easier.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Russell CircleCityCards on August 28, 2012, 09:30:11 PM
I'll have an update on what happened today early tomorrow morning.  It was only a slight glitch that only affected a dozen people.  thanks for understanding and I'll get back in touch early tomorrow.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: NathanCanadas on August 28, 2012, 09:36:44 PM
So, it's not a new Kickstarter rule? Because if it had been, I would've found that utterly ridiculous.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: 4pm Designer on August 28, 2012, 11:43:24 PM
I actually think this will weed out the flash in the pan decks. Companies who are here for the long haul wouldn't be as threatened considering they would already have a brand that contains brand loyalty among their customers. So getting those pledges wouldn't be as hard as it would for a no name to bring in multiple backers who haven't had a track record. Either way, it's a pointless rule and makes no sense whatsoever. Kickstarter is in the business of making money and cutting out higher backers in the end hurts how much they'll receive from their cut of funding.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: xela on August 29, 2012, 12:16:00 AM
Aaaaand there goes Kickstarter projects for anything that isn't a pure blind investment/expensive product.

Russell, I'm glad this is your last KS project. I think you would have tons more success through your own site. KS is nothing but a hassle.

It's really sad to see them promote this idiotic rule. I pledged for a battery project not too long ago. Awesome batteries, and I ordered well over 10 of each.

It seems they are pushing towards more creative rewards and also towards less of a pre-order vibe that projects have been having lately. I understand their reasoning, the absolute last thing KS is, is a pre-order system. However, they could have gone about it in a different way...

Putting the max at 10 seems like a direct jab to the card market too.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: hazofhorsham on August 29, 2012, 02:53:26 AM
I think the new rule isn't actually that bad. It sucks for card guys like us because if you want a brick (by the way I see what you mean about saying 1 BRICK, instead of 12 cards. It is only 1 thing, especially if its in its own box) but yeah, if you want 12 decks which some of us here is normal, its a pain. But realistically how many projects on kickstarter are cards? Compared to how many projects are on kickstarter in general?  This 10 items or less rule is probably to just stop an ordering system. Recently I have noticed that kickstarter projects just have there pledge levels representative of what a store front would look like. Some offer $1 off after market costs but a don't.

In reality I think its to hit at the resellers, how many times have you seen rewards like "RESELLER PACKAGE - 72 decks". That just treats kickstarters as a pre ordering system which is not what it is, it isn't supposed to be a business model, it's a community driven goal. The mistake they've made is probably not there fault, but its the limit they set.

It is perfectly normal to want 12 decks... But it'd be rare to order 12 t-shirts unless you were selling them, etc.

Hopefully this doesn't mess up the kickstarter campaign because CCC is one of the  top kickstarting companies, instead of a pre-order system there are early pledging rewards, stretch goals, quirks, communication with supporters, etc. Worst person to happen to.

I don't think Kickstarter is gone for new card companies, it is just getting harder and because of how the card market is right now, cards are even more expensive - foil and embossing are becomming standard, custom faces are pretty much a given, custom tuck seals, etc. All makes decks expensive and its now more difficult.

I just didn't think kickstarter would build so much into 'we're not a preodering service' that they would jeopradise a lot of users... Its nice to think that some compaines have principles.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Russell CircleCityCards on August 29, 2012, 11:03:24 AM
Well KS and I met in the middle.  I can sell the 'bricks' of 12 decks. (Pssst if you want 24 decks just double down you pledge)  8)


It's really not a big deal, it only affected around 15 backers in the long run.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: KPopFever605 on August 29, 2012, 01:56:33 PM
That's good news to hear! At least we're almost at 30k! Still sucks that Kickstarter had to enforce THIS rule on THIS particular deck. Arg!!!
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on September 04, 2012, 03:54:54 PM
So the art for the brick boxes looks amazing IMO
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Knobz1 on September 04, 2012, 10:04:08 PM
So the art for the brick boxes looks amazing IMO
Ooooo La La!!
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: NathanCanadas on September 04, 2012, 10:30:51 PM
Beautiful boxes! And at 35,000$ with a dozen days remaining, watch out The Grid, here they come!
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: KPopFever605 on September 04, 2012, 11:21:03 PM
I just read the update, and I think it's amazing how Russell managed to keep this project alive while still amazingly compromising. Now, all I need next is to get $5,000 more in the project and about 50 more likes to see what's coming up next. I can't wait!
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: KPopFever605 on September 08, 2012, 01:22:59 PM
New Update:

The two gaff cards in this deck will be a double backer and "The Executioner" card.

Russell also hints that there might be something coming up in the last three days of funding.
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I like it!
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Evan on September 09, 2012, 11:21:08 AM
They Executioner card looks badass! I love it!
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: NathanCanadas on September 09, 2012, 01:58:41 PM
I love this idea of an X card that the deck of the living dead also used. Plus, it looks awesome!
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Russell CircleCityCards on November 07, 2012, 11:23:16 PM

New update on Kickstarter: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1017676492/quicksilver-playing-card-deck/posts/344656


I posted it about a week late, it was supposed to come out on October 31st!  It is my Halloween/Election update with my good friend the Executioner all dressed up!
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7114/8165790010_af9931349c_b.jpg)


The X cards are just for fun, each update on KS will have a new X card in a new costume!
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: KPopFever605 on November 08, 2012, 12:18:31 AM
Those X's look extraordinary!

Next time around, I'll predict them either in a pilgrim outfit or dressed as Santa.

Not a hard prediction after all. :P
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Russell CircleCityCards on November 23, 2012, 02:58:05 PM
You can check out update #14 here... http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1017676492/quicksilver-playing-card-deck/posts


Basically, the uncut test print looks awesome!
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8202/8211001131_bd9b4fe084_z.jpg)






Gobble gobble!


(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8197/8211007627_2d15e2b7f9.jpg)
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: KPopFever605 on November 23, 2012, 03:20:14 PM
Thanks for the update Russell. I've been itching to get my Quicksilver uncut.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on July 02, 2013, 11:12:34 AM
So I wish I knew what was taking the shipping so long with this deck. I mean the Apocalyptica deck was funded after Russels deck and I already received my decks from him. Just waiting on the quicksilver deck.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Knobz1 on July 02, 2013, 12:17:29 PM
Me too.   Still waiting for my brick...
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on July 02, 2013, 04:10:41 PM
Something's up with that - I got my cards MONTHS ago.  Have you contacted Russell?
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on July 02, 2013, 04:18:59 PM
Yes I have. No response. and on the last update there seems to be a few of us who think we should have gotten ours by now. I mean I had dice but the last update said 95% of them was out.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on July 02, 2013, 04:37:00 PM
Yes I have. No response. and on the last update there seems to be a few of us who think we should have gotten ours by now. I mean I had dice but the last update said 95% of them was out.

Try him on Facebook.  There's no physical address listed for his company on their website or on Google Maps, so snail mail is out of the question.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Knobz1 on July 02, 2013, 04:52:42 PM
I emailed him May 26th asking what the status was on my order because he sent an update stating that he was mainly focused on dice and international packages.   He wrote back and wanted to verify my name and address.   I told him my name and address was correct. That was the last I heard anything.  Again, that was May 26th.   Now we are July 2nd.   

I think I'm done with kickstarter.   This isn't the first time the ball has been dropped with my order.   I can be one of the first people to pledge on kickstarter and I either don't get my stuff and have to send emails or I'm the last one to get it.   I'm just gonna buy straight from the dealers from now on.   They usually are the first ones to get them anyways.   Sigh..........end rant.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on July 02, 2013, 04:56:12 PM
Yea I only pledge for projects that I feel will go well. This one seems to not have.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Knobz1 on July 02, 2013, 05:37:00 PM
On a side note, he sent an email to everyone May 31st stating, and I quote:

"Again, probably wont be answering messages sent asking if the reward has been sent or if I have the correct address. Finding your name in the 1700 person spreadsheet and verifying it with a shipping receipt takes forever. Also, It takes time out of my day when I could be sending out rewards.  The two biggest groups of people who havent had many packages sent out are "International with 2-7" decks" and "all with 20+ dice".

So the two biggest groups who haven't received anything are international with 2-7 decks and all with 20+ dice.   

Sooooo, I'm asking myself again.   Where is my brick of cards?
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: BastianBJ on July 02, 2013, 07:23:27 PM
Yeah I'm stilling waiting for my uncut sheet and a couple of decks as well... I am international though, so I'm trying to be patient about it :)
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on July 02, 2013, 11:12:32 PM
even thats been a while. I thought excel had a search function. I know I used that on one of those office programs before.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on July 03, 2013, 03:42:56 AM
even thats been a while. I thought excel had a search function. I know I used that on one of those office programs before.

Excel does have a search function.  Shouldn't take too long, unless his computer is ancient and slow.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on July 03, 2013, 04:29:59 AM
Yea that is what I was thinking. It should not be to hard to search John Bruckerhoff and then see shipped - y/n
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Knobz1 on July 03, 2013, 06:06:19 AM
Yea that is what I was thinking. It should not be to hard to search John Bruckerhoff and then see shipped - y/n
Totally agree.

I ended up writing Russell again last night.   I will keep you posted if he responds back.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on July 03, 2013, 12:00:29 PM
Yea I hate how 2 out of the 3 kickstarter projects I have supported have taken so long to ship me my decks.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Knobz1 on July 03, 2013, 12:24:59 PM
Like I said before, I'm done with kickstarter.   I have pledged for 3 projects and every one of them have been terrible.   One project took basically a year to get, the other project there were only 100 decks to be given out for a special promotion, signed and numbered, and my order fell through the cracks, and this project is working on taking a year like the first project I pledged for.

Mehh, I will buy my decks from the dealers and have them months before anyone who pledged for them from now on.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: BiggerDee on July 04, 2013, 12:12:46 AM
Just bad luck, hang in there. I've pledged for about 5 dozen projects, and have never had any problems. Just lucky, I guess.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: verloren on July 04, 2013, 10:02:30 AM
Picking ones with a proven track record helps a lot too.

Other times, it depends on how lucky you are (funding, product development issues, creator commitment etc).
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Fanofyankees13 on July 05, 2013, 01:00:32 AM
15 decks, uncut sheet, and 20 dice nowhere to be found. This project is the last Kickstarter project I will ever back.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Yin on July 05, 2013, 03:30:06 AM
15 decks, uncut sheet, and 20 dice nowhere to be found. This project is the last Kickstarter project I will ever back.

I pledged for 12+2 decks (2 added later after KS ended by paypal) and 20 dice and I've yet to received my items too. He did say that he's sending out international orders so I'm still waiting on them.

If it helps, Uusi is one of the companies which I would back everytime. I pledged for their Bohemia deck and they delivered in spades. They were on time and every items of my pledge arrived without a scratch or dent (which is rare for me, because all my pledges for decks all have at least one that arrives damaged).  :)
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Knobz1 on July 08, 2013, 03:36:26 PM
Update.......

Russell finally emailed me back today.   Said he went back through his packages and has a returned package from APRIL with my correct address but it says unable to forward/return to sender.

I responded back verifying my address again and wrote the folowing: 

"Same address I verified with you before when I first emailed you May 26.   Never heard anything back from you nor did receive my cards so I decided to email you again going against what you stated in your emails about contacing you about orders and statuses.   Glad I did so now knowing my cards have just been chilling since April while I patiently wait everyday wondering if today is the day that they will finally arrive.   Not sure why my package was returned.   Been living here for a long time and receive packages all the time.   Indianapolis is only a 3 hour drive from my hometown.   Maybe I was better off just driving and picking them up..."

Arrrgh....
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on August 22, 2013, 04:55:33 PM
So who has actually gotten their cards? I know I am still waiting on mine, I have contacted russel via kickstarter but he never responded. This is why I don't like to use kickstarter. 2 out of the 5 projects decided to take forever to ship (vortex, and quicksilver) and 2 have ended not to long ago. So only one has gone well so far.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: john on August 22, 2013, 06:02:26 PM
I got my decks a LONG time ago, ordered 8 I believe,
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Curt on August 23, 2013, 12:15:42 AM
So who has actually gotten their cards? I know I am still waiting on mine, I have contacted russel via kickstarter but he never responded. This is why I don't like to use kickstarter. 2 out of the 5 projects decided to take forever to ship (vortex, and quicksilver) and 2 have ended not to long ago. So only one has gone well so far.

I received my order of 1 deck quite some time ago. Judging by my tumblr account I use to track my card collection, I received it on (or very near) June 11th.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on August 23, 2013, 08:53:44 AM
Well I just wish he would communicate I know there were dice issues but I just want to know if its shipped or not. He does not update or respond to messages.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on August 23, 2013, 08:55:32 AM
I probably got mine nearly the same time as Curt.

I've heard rumors - totally unverified - that he ran short of cash in the shipping, which is why many people got theirs months ago while others are still waiting.  He may have worked to insure that people in visible positions on the boards got theirs first to try to keep the issue quiet.  If that's the case, it would only have worked so far, and not this long.

But again - TOTALLY UNVERIFIED.  I could be talking out of my ass right now and not even know it.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: AlbinoDragon on August 23, 2013, 02:13:50 PM
I received mine and an uncut shortly after he started shipping. The deck had ripped the uncut unfortunately, but having gone through this nightmare myself back in December I didn't mention it.

Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on September 30, 2013, 01:00:47 AM
Does anyone have an idea of any legal action we can take about this? I heard a lot of people have not gotten theirs and I am pissed.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on September 30, 2013, 02:41:54 AM
Does anyone have an idea of any legal action we can take about this? I heard a lot of people have not gotten theirs and I am pissed.

Complain to your local Consumer Affairs Department or your local equivalent.  You can also try contacting the one in Indianapolis.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on September 30, 2013, 02:44:14 AM
I have no idea what that is or how to go about it. :( looks like I get to go do some reserch.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on November 15, 2013, 01:20:39 PM
So I love how Russell is "still shipping" according to his updates but I just got this because of the fact that I pledged. http://d19cgyi5s8w5eh.cloudfront.net/eml/58467018-415X-4ZY1-8439-UY4Y96W1706Y?e=Johnnyb_2011%40yahoo.com&a=U259U531-Z7U0-407Y-Z71Z-8Y15V4Y36WX7&f=&t=1
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on November 15, 2013, 03:04:15 PM
The part I love is how he mentions that the Hornets won the 2012 award for Best Poker Deck - and in the fine print, mentions that it was given by United Cardists.  I think he still OWNED United Cardists at the time!

But on a more serious note, he's selling his decks at fire sale prices.  I think he's using them to raise funds to get those Quicksilver decks out to his backers.  If that's the case, I'd say it a good idea long overdue.  Hornets are under $4 a pack and the other decks are under $6 a pack - and there's bulk discounting.

I'll post about this in the topic for Holidays 2013, if you don't mind.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on November 15, 2013, 03:10:07 PM
I all honesty I kinda do mind, because if he sells the quicksilver to make money to ship them he is selling whats he is suppose to ship. I really hope it would work out or he would atleast state thats what he is doing.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on November 15, 2013, 03:25:14 PM
I all honesty I kinda do mind, because if he sells the quicksilver to make money to ship them he is selling whats he is suppose to ship. I really hope it would work out or he would atleast state thats what he is doing.

I really doubt he sold out the entire print run on KS.  Few ever do.  His KS decks always eventually ended up on his site, and in a few cases on HOPC as well.

If what I surmised is true, the alternative to this sale would be Russell continuing to drag out shipments at a snail's pace.  This would seem to be the better idea.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: BastianBJ on November 15, 2013, 05:03:41 PM
Looking at the comments at the Quicksilver Kickstarter page, Russell made a update:

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UPDATE:
Im just dropping in to say that I am using the profits from this weekends sale on my site to ship more pledges for my kickstarter backers and fix my mistakes.

So hopefully a handful of people will receive their stuff soon
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on November 15, 2013, 09:32:36 PM
Looking at the comments at the Quicksilver Kickstarter page, Russell made a update:

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UPDATE:
Im just dropping in to say that I am using the profits from this weekends sale on my site to ship more pledges for my kickstarter backers and fix my mistakes.

So hopefully a handful of people will receive their stuff soon

Just as I figured.  This should speed things along - though I can't imagine what it means for CCCC.  The pricing is nearly "going-out-of-business low".
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Fanofyankees13 on December 09, 2013, 11:31:27 PM
Sigh. I just remembered I never received these from the KS campaign. It's been well over a year now. Absolutely ridiculous.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: sliverboi on December 10, 2013, 12:06:27 AM
Sigh. I just remembered I never received these from the KS campaign. It's been well over a year now. Absolutely ridiculous.

Me too Fanofyankees. I guess the only way to receive those deck we pledged for is to purchase from him on his website now. And I am reluctant to do that because I don't want to feed him more of my money. Damn..
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Fanofyankees13 on December 10, 2013, 12:10:37 AM
Sigh. I just remembered I never received these from the KS campaign. It's been well over a year now. Absolutely ridiculous.

Me too Fanofyankees. I guess the only way to receive those deck we pledged for is to purchase from him on his website now. And I am reluctant to do that because I don't want to feed him more of my money. Damn..

I'm in this project for almost $150. Not a chance in hell I'd give him another penny.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on December 10, 2013, 01:03:57 AM
Sigh. I just remembered I never received these from the KS campaign. It's been well over a year now. Absolutely ridiculous.

Me too Fanofyankees. I guess the only way to receive those deck we pledged for is to purchase from him on his website now. And I am reluctant to do that because I don't want to feed him more of my money. Damn..

I'm in this project for almost $150. Not a chance in hell I'd give him another penny.

I can't blame you, especially now that his fire-sale pricing is over.  I'm still trying to figure out why his Hornets are still in stock - that was a great deck.  I just wish it came in two back colors.

Let's hope that the fire sale being over means that he has the cash he needs to get everyone's decks into their mailboxes and he's been working on it.  His reputation has already become mud because of this - I don't think he wants it turning into bulls**t.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: jsa056 on December 10, 2013, 07:00:30 AM
I all honesty I kinda do mind, because if he sells the quicksilver to make money to ship them he is selling whats he is suppose to ship. I really hope it would work out or he would atleast state thats what he is doing.

I don't know if this helps the anger at all John, but the Quicksilver deck that he is selling on his website are not quite the kickstarter version.  Or at least that's what I've been hearing.  If memory serves me right, I think only the kickstarter version got the foil on the tuck,

I will say I don't know Russell personally.  Never met or even spoke to the guy.  He's made a lot of mistakes, but I was one of the lucky backers who got their decks and dice soon after he received them so I don't have the same frustrations toward him that others (rightfully) do.  His lack of money management/business skills hurt him and yeah his lack of communication and lack of transparency on this project has been ridiculous and quite insulting.  But admitting he needed to have a sale to get shipping money?  I can get behind that.  It's honest and hopefully its a small step in the right direction.  All would not be forgiven, but hopefully he can take that money, finish his shipping quickly and everyone can move on.

BTW, I grabbed a brick of Hornets during his fire sale and like Don, I have no idea why these haven't sold out yet - great cards.  I'm hoping/expecting that money I sent him goes straight toward paying for backer shipping.

I'm crossing my finger's and wishing that first and foremost, every backer gets what they pledged for.  Also wishing Russell finds a way back into the good graces of playing card collectors.  It won't be easy, but he designs very nice decks and I think he'd be a big asset to the community if he could get it together.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on December 10, 2013, 08:53:37 AM
I all honesty I kinda do mind, because if he sells the quicksilver to make money to ship them he is selling whats he is suppose to ship. I really hope it would work out or he would atleast state thats what he is doing.

I don't know if this helps the anger at all John, but the Quicksilver deck that he is selling on his website are not quite the kickstarter version.  Or at least that's what I've been hearing.  If memory serves me right, I think only the kickstarter version got the foil on the tuck,

I will say I don't know Russell personally.  Never met or even spoke to the guy.  He's made a lot of mistakes, but I was one of the lucky backers who got their decks and dice soon after he received them so I don't have the same frustrations toward him that others (rightfully) do.  His lack of money management/business skills hurt him and yeah his lack of communication and lack of transparency on this project has been ridiculous and quite insulting.  But admitting he needed to have a sale to get shipping money?  I can get behind that.  It's honest and hopefully its a small step in the right direction.  All would not be forgiven, but hopefully he can take that money, finish his shipping quickly and everyone can move on.

BTW, I grabbed a brick of Hornets during his fire sale and like Don, I have no idea why these haven't sold out yet - great cards.  I'm hoping/expecting that money I sent him goes straight toward paying for backer shipping.

I'm crossing my finger's and wishing that first and foremost, every backer gets what they pledged for.  Also wishing Russell finds a way back into the good graces of playing card collectors.  It won't be easy, but he designs very nice decks and I think he'd be a big asset to the community if he could get it together.

no one got the foil from what I was told. He skipped out on the metalic ink as well.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: CBJ on December 10, 2013, 10:13:48 AM
Mine have foil and embossing.

I received mine in Feb
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Knobz1 on December 10, 2013, 10:48:56 AM
Mine have foil and embossing.

I received mine in Feb
Can you post pics CBJ? I would really like to see them.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: badpete69 on December 10, 2013, 11:19:49 AM
Yeah got mine way back in february also and I do believe I remember foil and embossing.. I will check tonight when I get home
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: CBJ on December 10, 2013, 11:24:06 AM
I still have the uncut on the tube.  It left Circle City Cards on Feb 23rd.

Here are the pics.. not sure if you'll be able to really see the embossing/foil


(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/IMG_3295_zps2fa25d7c.jpg)


(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/IMG_3297_zpse5f33cd9.jpg)


(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/IMG_3296_zps3b1f8b79.jpg)


CBJ
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Knobz1 on December 10, 2013, 11:53:29 AM
Thanks CBJ. I got mine in July/August and they do in fact have the embossing and foil. Just wanted to make sure.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on December 10, 2013, 02:11:59 PM

I don't know if this helps the anger at all John, but the Quicksilver deck that he is selling on his website are not quite the kickstarter version.  Or at least that's what I've been hearing.  If memory serves me right, I think only the kickstarter version got the foil on the tuck,

I will say I don't know Russell personally.  Never met or even spoke to the guy.  He's made a lot of mistakes, but I was one of the lucky backers who got their decks and dice soon after he received them so I don't have the same frustrations toward him that others (rightfully) do.  His lack of money management/business skills hurt him and yeah his lack of communication and lack of transparency on this project has been ridiculous and quite insulting.  But admitting he needed to have a sale to get shipping money?  I can get behind that.  It's honest and hopefully its a small step in the right direction.  All would not be forgiven, but hopefully he can take that money, finish his shipping quickly and everyone can move on.

BTW, I grabbed a brick of Hornets during his fire sale and like Don, I have no idea why these haven't sold out yet - great cards.  I'm hoping/expecting that money I sent him goes straight toward paying for backer shipping.

I'm crossing my finger's and wishing that first and foremost, every backer gets what they pledged for.  Also wishing Russell finds a way back into the good graces of playing card collectors.  It won't be easy, but he designs very nice decks and I think he'd be a big asset to the community if he could get it together.

First, jsa056, welcome to the Discourse.  Interesting name...  You should head over to the "Introduce Yourself" topic and let the gang greet you properly and get to know you better.

It will be hard for him to regain that kind of trust.  I have yet to see a "fallen designer" come back from such a blow - which is not to say that it's impossible, just that it hasn't happened.  He'd probably get quicker acceptance by making designs for other people.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Adam on December 15, 2013, 07:05:11 PM
i dont think i will ever get my uncut sheet and 2 decks which is a shame because the cards themselves would look great framed. anyone have any news what russel is doing..........
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on December 15, 2013, 09:57:06 PM
i dont think i will ever get my uncut sheet and 2 decks which is a shame because the cards themselves would look great framed. anyone have any news what russel is doing..........

Check out the topic on Kickstarter's "Successful Failures".
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: BastianBJ on February 25, 2014, 05:12:43 AM
Apparently, Russel has sent my stuff the 19th! Checked on the tracking number provided, at the moment my stuff is in Chicago.. my stuff is finally on the way! :D
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on February 25, 2014, 06:01:52 AM
That's good to hear.  I'm sure he's been trying to get these things out all along - I got mine months ago.  It appears to have been a simple case of running out of cash on shipping due to a little poor planning on his part.  It's a shame, though - he'd been quite successful up to this point.  Between this and the fiasco with the Bicycle Army Men deck and Adam Clarkson, it appears that Circle City will likely close up shop - at least, that's my guess.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: John B. on February 25, 2014, 08:48:34 AM
Well I still have no word on my brick, and my dice.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: vmagic on February 25, 2014, 06:15:22 PM
I'm still waiting for my stuff, hopefully it gets here eventually. I think it would help a lot if he posted an update and admitting his mistakes.
Title: Re: Quicksilver Deck - Circle City Cards
Post by: Shade on February 26, 2014, 11:20:24 AM
Ya, I haven't received my brick, uncut and dice, either. No update in forever.

At this point I would be almost willing to pay the shipping myself just to get the decks & uncuts.