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Title: Performing rapture, with a blue split spades?
Post by: amateur101 on August 09, 2012, 09:18:11 AM
Well some people know how raptures done will some what understand this, i dont wanna say anything becasue it might reveal the trick but if you do know how rapture is performed then just think about a blue split spades and tell me if it would be a good idea.
Title: Re: Performing rapture, with a blue split spades?
Post by: YorbSterling on August 09, 2012, 10:24:46 AM
In my opinion.  A bicycle deck is the best deck to use.  Just because every one knows about it and it doesn't rise suspicion. Using a deck someone has never seen before would make them already think your going to cheat.  In the end, a little less magical.
Title: Re: Performing rapture, with a blue split spades?
Post by: Don Boyer on August 10, 2012, 06:14:25 PM
In my opinion.  A bicycle deck is the best deck to use.  Just because every one knows about it and it doesn't rise suspicion. Using a deck someone has never seen before would make them already think your going to cheat.  In the end, a little less magical.


That's actually a common misconception.  A deck like any of the Split Spades/White Lions aren't very exceptional from the perspective of the spectator, especially when you consider they have single-color backs and Bicycle faces (custom Ace of Spades, Joker and select faces on the court cards, but the overall design is fairly traditional).  Give them something they can identify with and you'll be fine.  Bust out a pack of Bicycle Karnival Dose Redux and unless your audience is composed largely of Goths/emos, you might raise an eyebrow or two - but even then, that's all.


The things I think will throw a spectator off the most would be:
- cheap-looking off-brand generic faces, because the cheapest magic decks are made thusly,
- bizarrely intricate back, like the old DeLand marked decks
- cheap manufacture, stock, etc., (see first reason)


Blaine's entire series of decks have standard USPC faces with the exceptions listed above, which many spectators wouldn't notice or care about.  If you want to and can for this trick, hand the deck over to the spectator to examine.  What I do is I spread the cards out, ostensibly for the purpose of checking that there's "nothing missing, damaged, misprinted, etc.", while the reality is that I'm letting the spectator see the cards aren't gimmicky in any way - without actually drawing attention to it.  It helps that I often use a fresh pack when performing for the patients at the hospital; they see I'm opening a sealed box and the cards are all in original order.


You tell a spectator that it's an "ordinary deck," warning lights go off in his or her head and they'll distrust the deck.  Let them see it for themselves, and they're convinced it's legit.

EDIT: Most people would accept a Bicycle deck as OK, if it was a brand they knew well.  But fellow magicians know better!  If you have one in your audience, or just someone who knows enough about magic, a Bicycle deck would do the opposite - set off warnings that the deck might be gaffed in some way.  More gaffs come in the Bicycle Rider Back than any other design, hands down.
Title: Re: Performing rapture, with a blue split spades?
Post by: Arjun on September 11, 2012, 05:52:40 AM
Hey Buddy ,
 
I would say that performing Rapture with any deck will be OK , as long as you make the gimmick perfectly and you perform it flawlessly. So go for it ;)

Also I totally agree with Don using standard bikes may be more suspicious when performing to magicians.  Spectators usually don't get suspicious with any of the decks and don't seem to actually care what deck you actually use as long as it looks fine and smooth. Cheap decks are what usually makes them suspicious.

Thanks ,
Arjun
Title: Re: Performing rapture, with a blue split spades?
Post by: ItsMagicITellYou~ on September 26, 2012, 08:38:05 PM
i agree with everything don says :) i also found boxes that are made of stiffer cardboard (fourniers?) made pretty bad gimmicks. the standards and split spades will do fine though :)