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Title: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Kenneth on August 01, 2012, 08:15:24 AM
(http://52cartes.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/carpathia.jpg?w=614&h=414)
http://52cartes.wordpress.com/2012/08/01/carpathia-deck-infos/ (http://52cartes.wordpress.com/2012/08/01/carpathia-deck-infos/)
via 52 Cartes

Owner Facebook Page
http://www.facebook.com/carpathia.jo (http://www.facebook.com/carpathia.jo)

"I have a new deck- CARPATHIA Deck, and I would publish it on August 3. Do you like this deck? It’s a fully customized deck, and is a new design of TUCK JOKER ACE BACK and JQK. Wish you have a nice day, and please keep an eye on update information on my Facebook."

"100% customized Deck"

MOD'S EDIT: both of the links above no longer work, as of 12:04am EDT 14 Aug 2012.  The 52cartes link leads to a 404 error and the Facebook link leads to a "Page Not Found" page.
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Don Boyer on August 01, 2012, 08:30:19 AM
I'll have to add this one to the NDR when I get home later. Thanks for the post.

BTW: feel free to post new release info on that topic as well.

Don't suppose you have more info on it?
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Kenneth on August 01, 2012, 08:36:42 AM
I'll have to add this one to the NDR when I get home later. Thanks for the post.

BTW: feel free to post new release info on that topic as well.

Don't suppose you have more info on it?

Well I asked the creator if it is possible for him to show the ace,court cards or jokers but as for now that's all I'm getting on his facebook page and also the page was created on Monday so it's quite new.
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Don Boyer on August 01, 2012, 02:30:59 PM

Well I asked the creator if it is possible for him to show the ace,court cards or jokers but as for now that's all I'm getting on his facebook page and also the page was created on Monday so it's quite new.


Something went wonky - 52cartes seems to have PULLED the article.  Your link now leads to a 404 error, and it doesn't appear when you look at the home page.


"Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K..."
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Evan on August 02, 2012, 04:24:12 AM
The designer told me that he will reveal more cards on August 3rd.
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Don Boyer on August 02, 2012, 11:05:23 AM
The designer told me that he will reveal more cards on August 3rd.


He said similar to me on FB - that he'd give more info about the artist.
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: CarpathiaTeam on August 03, 2012, 09:25:18 AM
Carpathia Deck Updating photos
Carpathia Deck 100% Customizing 、 new JQK design .More than 20 persons like it. Carpathia team will hold competitions You will get the deck for free.
If you have any questions, please leave a message to us.
wish you a good day!
Carpathia Team

http://www.facebook.com/#!/carpathia.jo
Thank you

MOD'S EDIT: as of 12:01am EDT on 14 Aug 2012, the link above is now dead.  A search on Facebook for "Carpathia" turns up everything Carpathian except this deck.  Searching "Carpathia Playing Cards" or "Carpathia Cards" yields zero results.
MOD'S 2ND EDIT: found out they're using "Carpathia Team" as their page name.  They're there.
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Kenneth on August 03, 2012, 09:40:23 AM
Wow it looks really interesting, might pick up a couple of these I like the Ace a lot and the dolphin with reveal is cute
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Evan on August 03, 2012, 10:49:31 AM
The faces remind me of a mix of the infinity deck and the artifice deck. It looks really good but I also think that the back really lacks color. I also think that the borders should be thinner. Looks great!
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: RandyButterfield on August 03, 2012, 10:58:07 AM
I think the cards look nice. Too bad the back's only 1-Color and has such a large border.

The fonts on the Tuck Box are horrible though! CARPATHIA in the banner looks really plain in Helvetica and the kerning is way too spaced out, especially at the end with the I and A. The font used for PLAYING CARDS and on the side looks like it could work with the art but the kerning with this font is way too tight.

I like the Dolphin and Court Cards!

thanks, Randy
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: CarpathiaTeam on August 03, 2012, 11:25:26 AM
The faces remind me of a mix of the infinity deck and the artifice deck. It looks really good but I also think that the back really lacks color. I also think that the borders should be thinner. Looks great!

Please see Back Clear images
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Don Boyer on August 03, 2012, 06:19:12 PM


The faces remind me of a mix of the infinity deck and the artifice deck. It looks really good but I also think that the back really lacks color. I also think that the borders should be thinner. Looks great!


To me, the indices are straight from the LTD deck, which were modified versions of the Artifice deck to begin with - from Artifice to LTD, the pips went from custom to standard.  The court cards look nearly identical to those from the Magic-Con v2 deck.


The back in interesting, and I'm not against a one-color deck back (done right, it looks very elegant), but I'm not seeing any organized theme.  Take a look at this:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpathia


There's a LOT of things that can be tied to Carpathia.  I'm not seeing a single one of them in this deck.  The closest it gets would be the ship's rudder wheel tying to the RMS Carpathia - and that's a real stretch.  The back is, however, the most original part of the deck so far.  I'm just not seeing this as something I'd pick up for my collection - it feels more like someone pulling together a bunch of elements to try making something sellable and less like original art with a cohesive theme.

But hey, that's just me; if you guys love it, then go for it.
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: CarpathiaTeam on August 05, 2012, 08:21:50 AM
I will hold competitions in tomorrow . You will get free Carpathia Deck!
Good Luck!
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: NathanCanadas on August 08, 2012, 11:21:17 PM
I am so so on this deck. I find the artwork very nice, but also inconsistent, and very similar to many other decks (seasons, artifice mostly IMO). However some little added details fit pretty nicely.
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: CarpathiaTeam on August 13, 2012, 09:32:09 AM
I have received the sample of Carpathia Deck sent by USPCC today. It’s very great, a real work of art. I would release high-resolution pictures for your appreciation this week. At the same time, I have prepared many activities and prizes, 18 Carpathia Deck, 20 Uncut Sheet, Golden monarch, and ultimate prize: Mac Book Air 13’. In addition, I would hold another competition on Wednesday, and good luck!
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: NathanCanadas on August 13, 2012, 10:23:27 AM
You guys, there's no need to try and give suggestions. We were right: they were all ignored.
Look at their photo on facebook and their comments:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=156066404517001&set=a.155262694597372.4334.155152251275083&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf

Carpathia Team said: "Won't have change, I like this design.
Great"

I find if very selfish and rude to ask for suggestions with a complete design that you are unwilling to change.
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: redtank151 on August 13, 2012, 11:07:30 AM
That was my comment asking them about the change. Anyways, there is a SEVERE lack of blue in the deck. Why was blue not even the colour of the water below the ship, why the hell are there dolphins, why are the court cards holding severely out of proportion wind instruments instead of in sailor costumes and life jackets. It really just makes sense.

This deck I suspect will be abit of a bummer to open up, it is essentially a black and white deck.

Yeah Nathan, it was kind of rude, they didn't even bother to show us what it would look like with our suggestions.
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: CarpathiaTeam on August 13, 2012, 11:55:19 AM
That was my comment asking them about the change. Anyways, there is a SEVERE lack of blue in the deck. Why was blue not even the colour of the water below the ship, why the hell are there dolphins, why are the court cards holding severely out of proportion wind instruments instead of in sailor costumes and life jackets. It really just makes sense.

This deck I suspect will be abit of a bummer to open up, it is essentially a black and white deck.

Yeah Nathan, it was kind of rude, they didn't even bother to show us what it would look like with our suggestions.


We try the Blue Black Back, printing in Sweden.
We will not modify JQK design, I think initially designed better.
Thank you
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: CarpathiaTeam on August 13, 2012, 11:58:23 AM
You guys, there's no need to try and give suggestions. We were right: they were all ignored.
Look at their photo on facebook and their comments:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=156066404517001&set=a.155262694597372.4334.155152251275083&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf


I do not neglect everyone's proposal, and I looked at each.
I try to modify the back color, and edge narrower.
Printing in Sweden, the original design printing in uspcc
Thank you!
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: CarpathiaTeam on August 13, 2012, 12:00:17 PM
I do not neglect everyone's proposal, and I looked at each.
I try to modify the back color, and edge narrower.
Printing in Sweden, the original design printing in uspcc
Thank you!
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: RandyButterfield on August 13, 2012, 03:26:30 PM
I have received the sample of Carpathia Deck sent by USPCC today. It’s very great, a real work of art. I would release high-resolution pictures for your appreciation this week. At the same time, I have prepared many activities and prizes, 18 Carpathia Deck, 20 Uncut Sheet, Golden monarch, and ultimate prize: Mac Book Air 13’. In addition, I would hold another competition on Wednesday, and good luck!

I'm curious as to why you're giving away so many prizes that are going to make your profit margin almost non-existent, unless it's a 5,000 run and they're priced at $10 per Deck! To me the 20 Uncuts and Mac Book Air 13" makes it look like you're trying to buy support.

thanks, Randy
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: CarpathiaTeam on August 13, 2012, 08:49:07 PM
I have received the sample of Carpathia Deck sent by USPCC today. It’s very great, a real work of art. I would release high-resolution pictures for your appreciation this week. At the same time, I have prepared many activities and prizes, 18 Carpathia Deck, 20 Uncut Sheet, Golden monarch, and ultimate prize: Mac Book Air 13’. In addition, I would hold another competition on Wednesday, and good luck!

I'm curious as to why you're giving away so many prizes that are going to make your profit margin almost non-existent, unless it's a 5,000 run and they're priced at $10 per Deck! To me the 20 Uncuts and Mac Book Air 13" makes it look like you're trying to buy support.

thanks, Randy

only 2500 decks print, May be only a few sold in international.
I used  good paper!
Thank you.
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: NathanCanadas on August 13, 2012, 08:53:50 PM
So it's not USPCC? I'm really confused... Has this already been answered?
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Evan on August 13, 2012, 09:01:17 PM
So it's not USPCC? I'm really confused... Has this already been answered?
It is a USPCC deck.
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: NathanCanadas on August 13, 2012, 10:08:24 PM
This sounds pretty fishy to me. Giving away so many decks and a macbook air on a 2,500 deck print run from USPCC... I don't see how that's possible.
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: John B. on August 13, 2012, 10:21:09 PM
give me a mac book air and i still wont buy decks i dont like, lol
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Don Boyer on August 14, 2012, 12:43:57 AM
I do not neglect everyone's proposal, and I looked at each.
I try to modify the back color, and edge narrower.
Printing in Sweden, the original design printing in uspcc
Thank you!

Did you or did you not announce that you were using USPC as your printer?  Because now it seems like you're using some printer in Sweden.  Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the Swedish printer will do a bang-up job, but it's NOT USPC.

Looking at proposals and taking action on them are two different things.  You decided to take the easiest ones - give the back a color, and make the border more narrow - while completely neglecting the gaping holes in your deck's theme.  If you don't fill them, this deck might be better off named Titanic II, 'cause it's gonna sink like the first one!

And all these insane giveaways!  Nobody in playing cards gives away a thousand-dollar computer, never mind the other stuff!  Not if they want to have even a slim margin of profit.  You even tried giving me three decks, just for being who I am and writing so much about your deck - never mind that you ignored most of my suggestions.  It's clear you just wanted to build hype for your deck, but the old adage of any publicity, negative or positive, is better than no publicity at all will not hold true here.

(Just so everyone knows, I turned him down and stated that if they really improve the design into something worth owning, I'd BUY three decks.  But it's pretty apparent to me that it's not going to happen.  First time I ever turned down a free deck.)

I am so so on this deck. I find the artwork very nice, but also inconsistent, and very similar to many other decks (seasons, artifice mostly IMO). However some little added details fit pretty nicely.

Fit what?  A sudoku puzzle?

From what I've seen of the court cards so far (and that ain't much), he pulled off the frame, played with the geometric patterns in the clothing a little and replaced weapons and flowers with somewhat disproportionate musical instruments and wine glasses.  It's more like cut-and-paste at its finest!  You can even see where the Queen of Clubs's hand holding the glass went unchanged - they covered the flower with the glass, which is why the glass seems just a little big.

If this deck goes through with only the minimal changes "Carpathia Team" stated they would make, then I'm not interested, thankyewverrymush.
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: redtank151 on August 14, 2012, 09:33:58 AM
Perhaps it is because printing in Sweden is cheaper than the USPCC they can afford to give away so much stuff, I assume its gonna handle like the Anglos which is not a problem of course. But according to Carpathiateam there will be 2 print runs, 1 USPCC and 1 Swedish, the Swedish ones will have more colours splashed in.

But even that being said giving away so much stuff really cuts the profit margin,I believe fearless leader Alex made about $3,000 designing and selling the vortex. Assuming the profits are the same that leaves the Carpathia team with less than $2,000 as profit.

Assuming there are more than 1 person in said team, each person won't get much for their work. Although that being said each person probably didn't really give a crap seeing how they ignored all suggestions and is adamant about giving us a thick bordered, black and white, nowhere near the theme put forward in the first place deck.

' I do not neglect everyone's proposal, and I looked at each. ' Suggestions were seen and promptly forgotten about.
'I try to modify the back color' Sorry what colour? I guess black and white are 2 colours.

Also to show how disproportionate their instruments are, this is the instrument on the King of Clubs in real life, see how my hand is not half the size of it?
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Don Boyer on August 14, 2012, 05:33:17 PM
Redtank - the math is a bit oversimplified, but the general idea is correct.  Give away thousand-dollar computers, profits go bye-bye...
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on August 14, 2012, 09:14:15 PM

Two words.

DOLPHIN = LOVE
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Don Boyer on August 14, 2012, 11:58:44 PM

Two words.

DOLPHIN = LOVE

Oh, Lara, you're such a pushover!  :))
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Marcus on August 15, 2012, 05:14:57 AM
Which printing company are you planning to use in Sweden?
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: CarpathiaTeam on August 15, 2012, 05:22:52 AM
print in USPCC.
Thanks!
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: redtank151 on August 15, 2012, 08:05:27 AM
I swear the Carpathiateam doesn't even read questions properly, it is actually very funny. On facebook " What is the print-run? " " yes ,will print. " Lollery.
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Lara Krystle "Lane" on August 15, 2012, 08:51:25 AM

Two words.

DOLPHIN = LOVE

Oh, Lara, you're such a pushover!  :))



So not a pushover.
I just said I loved the dolphins.
Never said I'm getting a deck. Not really interested in the other aspects of the deck just yet. Im just watching the thread proceed and see how it goes. :P
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Utterfool on August 15, 2012, 10:02:27 AM
Why does the dolphin have a tea bag in its mouth?
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: vmagic on September 20, 2012, 09:26:04 PM
I swear they had a website the other day and now it is gone.
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: CarpathiaTeam on September 20, 2012, 10:06:29 PM
http://www.carpathiadeck.com/
Thanks!
Carpathia Team
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Evan on September 21, 2012, 09:05:29 PM
This deck is now available!

http://www.carpathiadeck.com


One thing I find EXTREMELY odd is that Aloys (designer of blue tune) and Charle (designer of Carpathia deck) both offer similar rewards:The first order will get free GOLD Monarch. With each purchase of 12 CarpathiaDeck, the customer will gain a free Carpathia Chips. The customer who purchases the most will obtain a set of Mac Book Air 13’.

Also, they both had a different color of their deck printed by a company in a different country. AND, they both talk very similarly.

It doesn't really matter but I just find it very odd.
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Don Boyer on September 22, 2012, 12:47:06 AM
This deck is now available!

http://www.carpathiadeck.com (http://www.carpathiadeck.com)


One thing I find EXTREMELY odd is that Aloys (designer of blue tune) and Charle (designer of Carpathia deck) both offer similar rewards:The first order will get free GOLD Monarch. With each purchase of 12 CarpathiaDeck, the customer will gain a free Carpathia Chips. The customer who purchases the most will obtain a set of Mac Book Air 13’.

Also, they both had a different color of their deck printed by a company in a different country. AND, they both talk very similarly.

It doesn't really matter but I just find it very odd.

I've heard unsubstantiated rumors that they are indeed one and the same individual.  The identical reward structure itself wouldn't be so odd were it not for the fact that it contains some rather oddball items, most odd being that MacBook Air.  Note that there was no mention of whether wholesale purchases were eligible to win it or not.
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Don Boyer on September 24, 2012, 01:04:08 PM
Hey, I poked around the Carapathia website and stumbled onto their "About Us" page.  Read this:



CollarMe Fashion Accessories Co.,Ltd, committed to supply various fashion accessories, from China to the worldwide. Our products are,
Ø         
Chain&Necklaces: box chain and woven chain
Ø         Pendants
Ø         Earing
Ø         Ring
Ø         Bracelet
Materials: Grade-316L Stainless Steel, Solid Titanium and Tungsten Carbide
At early years, every vendor has to pass a rigorous selection process to be our fixed suppliers.
We realized it hard to control the cost and some tiny requirements to stand in clients' shoes ,so we pick the most valuable ones among those regulars and cooperate with them,continuously designs and introduces new products.
With tremendous efforts and constant development, we had built a modernized factory, there are a number of internationally advanced technology processing equipments, quality control equipment and experienced & skilled workforce. Our annual output of various fashionable accessories reach to 200 thousands pieces . The strict product designing, assembly and testing process ensure superior manufacturing capability, stable and reliable product quality.
In the meanwhile, we set up a few stores in the wholesale markets, to expand our business. What's more important, it can feedback us the popularity of the products and the trends of the market.

So, how bogus does all THAT sound?
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: vmagic on September 27, 2012, 07:02:41 PM
I swear the Carpathiateam doesn't even read questions properly, it is actually very funny. On facebook " What is the print-run? " " yes ,will print. " Lollery.

You ever think that English isn't their first language and that maybe they don't know what "print-run" means?
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Don Boyer on September 28, 2012, 12:38:52 AM
I swear the Carpathiateam doesn't even read questions properly, it is actually very funny. On facebook " What is the print-run? " " yes ,will print. " Lollery.

You ever think that English isn't their first language and that maybe they don't know what "print-run" means?

To be fair, the inquiring mind posing the question (assuming your quote is accurate) neglected to ask anything about number or size.  It's not much of a stretch to interpret the question as an inquiry as to whether the cards were printed yet.
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: uusikissa1 on September 28, 2012, 01:46:47 PM
Hey, I poked around the Carapathia website and stumbled onto their "About Us" page.  Read this:



CollarMe Fashion Accessories Co.,Ltd, committed to supply various fashion accessories, from China to the worldwide. Our products are,
Ø         
Chain&Necklaces: box chain and woven chain
Ø         Pendants
Ø         Earing
Ø         Ring
Ø         Bracelet
Materials: Grade-316L Stainless Steel, Solid Titanium and Tungsten Carbide
At early years, every vendor has to pass a rigorous selection process to be our fixed suppliers.
We realized it hard to control the cost and some tiny requirements to stand in clients' shoes ,so we pick the most valuable ones among those regulars and cooperate with them,continuously designs and introduces new products.
With tremendous efforts and constant development, we had built a modernized factory, there are a number of internationally advanced technology processing equipments, quality control equipment and experienced & skilled workforce. Our annual output of various fashionable accessories reach to 200 thousands pieces . The strict product designing, assembly and testing process ensure superior manufacturing capability, stable and reliable product quality.
In the meanwhile, we set up a few stores in the wholesale markets, to expand our business. What's more important, it can feedback us the popularity of the products and the trends of the market.

So, how bogus does all THAT sound?

Extremely bogus and bizarre. I was briefly under the impression they were from Sweden, but the name Charles Lee seemed kind of odd for a Swedish designer. There are a few things I do like about some of the design, and have to agree that the simplicity of a design using just black and white can work, if done well. I am sure I am going to be the only one here who feels this way, but I do kind of like certain vintage cheap decks for their simplicity. This deck definitely had some of those qualities but to many other inconsistencies that just came off as not paying attention to details and some questionable choices. 

Nice sleuth work Don.
Title: Re: NEW DECK - Carpathia Deck
Post by: Don Boyer on September 28, 2012, 02:02:08 PM
You are welcome, Peter!