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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Playing Card Plethora => Topic started by: vmagic on July 06, 2012, 06:00:04 PM
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Just found these cards while doing a search on Kickstarter. They seem pretty interesting. They are definitely not standard. Totally custom and with custom suits - Earth, Moon, Sun, and Ringed Planet. These are not USPC, they are printed on a 310 gsm black core stock which tells me they are probably from Brahma. Back design seems to be lacking a bit.
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I don't know about these, what do you think?
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1919551650/alien-ink-galaxy-cards?ref=live (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1919551650/alien-ink-galaxy-cards?ref=live)
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I think it has a small chance at being successful. The number cards look pretty cool but I still don't like them. And the back is just absolutely terrible. This is a definite pass for me.
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Ok images look pretty good, but overall design is pretty crap. Imagine how bad the handling would be on these, with sooooo much ink.
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Actually if you see the video on the kickstarter page you will see that they handle pretty nicely.
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Surprisingly enough, I'm actually interested in this deck. While using alternate suits was never a great selling point for me in a deck, this particular one just grabbed my interest. I'd be very much interested in seeing the finished product.
Actually if you see the video on the kickstarter page you will see that they handle pretty nicely.
If the deck already existed, why would they need a Kickstarter project to create it? Are you certain they were handling a USPC-issued deck, or a homemade sample? Even the USPC prototype decks aren't exactly the same as the print run decks because of the difference in printing method.
In short, it doesn't matter how well they handle in the video because the actual factory-issue decks will be different.
Ok images look pretty good, but overall design is pretty crap. Imagine how bad the handling would be on these, with sooooo much ink.
Magic Finish is an excellent cure for that specific problem; it's practically the reason why the stuff was invented. It's entirely possible they'll handle as smooth as glass.
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Oh snap, I love space and astronomy. I really would have liked to see the one with the sun show the progressing stages of a star.
They look really cool though. Sometimes we forget that a huge number of folks that use cards are younger than 13. This deck would have been awesome back when I was in middle school and we all played Egyptian Ratscrew.
EDIT: After reviewing the art I can't say with certainty that it's all 100% original. Can anyone confirm that? Because the difference is astronomical (pun intended). If this stuff is original, then that artwork is extremely amazing. If it's just a hodge podge of stuff someone found on deviantArt then... not so much.
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Hello,
It seems the former project was canceled two days ago and come back again with more info about the decks.
I have posted in at maxplayingcards.com (http://www.maxplayingcards.com/en/2012/07/19/galaxy-deck-aliens-strike-back-kickstarter/) and you can see the site of the new project at kickstarter (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1919551650/galaxy-cards-by-alien-ink-upgraded-playing-cards).
Best
Max
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Make sure to check out the relaunch, the whole deck looks so much better. New and much improved back design and white borders on backs and faces as well as new faces!
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Make sure to check out the relaunch, the whole deck looks so much better. New and much improved back design and white borders on backs and faces as well as new faces!
It's a distinct improvement, but I'm wondering which printer they're using...
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did you hear... it has FRENCH paper!
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did you hear... it has FRENCH paper!
Woo. And Hoo. :))
French paper, sure. It's not USPC. But who?
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Alright so there was a whole bunch of drama on UC about this deck. There are a lot of red flags about this KS, but what really ticked people off was their video. I personally thought the video was a tad obnoxious, albeit a little hilarious. The video quality is what really made me shake my head, though. The content is on par with what a lot of other projects on KS do, though.
Anyway, I will summarize what happened on UC since a lot of the posts seem to be deleted now:
- People crapped on the video, a lot.
- The brother of one of the guys in the video signed on and posted calmly about the project, saying that indeed the video was terrible but that the two guys are honest and good people
- The community was not amused by this, but went a tad overboard with the insults and harassment, especially from some people who should be maintaining a more professional demeanor but did not.
- The brother said that they are "just cards" and didn't see why people were making such a huge fuss about them. He also stated that they are on GOOD stock with a good printer and a good cut. He failed to discuss the finish, but said the handling was good. He also pointed out how he had no experience in the matter (I take it this means the cards indeed have awesome paper, but the finish is terrible, which makes handling them impossible).
- The brother got harassed some more by one immature member in particular, and had a whole bunch of other people try and give him sound advice to improve the campaign.
- The brother deletes all his posts (I don't think it was for a malicious reason; having had owned forums for the last decade, I can say there are a lot of people that don't know board etiquette and think deleting posts is acceptable).
tl;dr: The project will probably be a success if it is funded. People are acting as if they can take your money and run. That is not the case. KS ToS requires buyers to offer refunds if they are "unable or unwilling" to fill a pledge reward. So if you love the decks, pledge for them, but keep in mind that based on the posts of that "brother" that the handling is most likely going to be terrible in every sense of the word. Also, the designers use words like "trade secret" and don't want to tell people about their printer because "other designers may use them." This leads me to believe that they have no experience with playing cards at all.
So if you're buying these cards, just remember, they'll only be good for as a gift to a kid who likes space-themed shit.
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funding got canceled. So looks like its not going through.
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funding got canceled. So looks like its not going through.
Not surprised, they lost at least a third of their pledges in a few days.
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- The brother said that they are "just cards" and didn't see why people were making such a huge fuss about them.
Wow well that just proves they were in the game just to cash in. How do you expect to have people back your product and eventually make a profit if you don't take your own product seriously? I saw their video and also thought they were arrogant and completely unprofessional. It doesn't mean they couldn't of made a goofy video. But if they did it with proper quality and approached it professionally they probably wouldn't of gotten the reaction they did.
Luckily, KS backers weed out the rotten apples.
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That's a shame. I wasn't really into the cards from the start, but the theme intrigued me. Their rerelease pushed me over the edge in getting these cards. At only $9, I was planned on getting these cards. However, after reading the following posts, I guess that won't be happening anymore now that the "author" has canceled pledging. Oh well.
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I hate to say this, but the campaign is still active.
I have been very vocal about how they have handled the situation. Just give us a straight answer, who is printing them. I know USPCC is not the be all, end all of manufacturers, there are many other fine companies. What irks me is the blatant posturing of how great the cards are when they won't even tell us which printer they went with. I have samples from nearly 20 manufacturers across the globe, I know which ones are shit and which ones are good. If they truly cared about the cards and not the money they would be upfront. I like the artwork (http://heavenwill.deviantart.com/) and I would happily back them if I knew the real quality.
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Hello Aether Cards!
This is AlieN InK's official id on this forum... The Blot153 reference will makes sense relatively soon, as we have lots of great ideas we are working with. This id just got approved and I am working on getting an official AlieN InK id here.
I just want to say our piece, on where we are coming from, so you can make judgements based on what's real. First, we really appreciate that people are enjoying the art for the project. We spent 6 months with our handpicked artist, Heavenwill on deviantart to make these cards as absolutely beautiful as we could. It is rewarding to see that people appreciate what we put so much work into.
Let me just say, that my brother posting on the UC forums was unsolicited, and I was not very happy with the way he went about explaining that 'cards are just cards'. It does not reflect our views in any way. We spent 4 months buying cards and getting samples and searching the entire globe to find the right printer for our cards. We understand that a lot of ink means we have to adjust our finish. We know that card stock, cut, and finish are absolutely vital to how a card handles. We are, (albeit relatively new) cardists ourselves and would never create decks that we couldn't use ourselves. Street magic, Cardistry, Fans, Flips! We love that stuff as much as you do, and we know that you take cards very seriously.
It is a bit disheartening to see so much distrust about this project but we understand that is it not your fault and that you are just being careful. We really are sorry if you have been jaded or hurt and we understand that as a company we will have to earn the community's trust. The one thing that we know, is that once we get these cards into the hands of reviewers and cardists, there won't be any doubt that we have done our homework and that we very much intend to be making cards especially for cardists and magicians for a long time to come. We love cards, and we are willing to put in the time and work.
We have deck designs lined up that we think are really creative and we want to make a real impact and show everyone some really beautiful and original decks. We love cards, have some great ideas and want to participate in this community. We found our printer after unending research and know that we have a quality product. It is because of our goal to be in this business for a long time that we want to keep our proprietary printer proprietary. What I can tell you is that it is a great company, prints for an international magician that uses his own cards in his performances, multiple casinos and that they exclusively print playing cards. We hand picked every aspect of these cards, and know what is needed in the way of performance from them. They are 310 gsm, Casino quality paper, linen embossed and have a cambric finish to make them slick and fluid.
At this point we are hoping that people see that the rewards outweigh the risks. This is a first edition deck from a design company that is creative enough to replace the suits with celestial bodies and reinvent the court cards. Dedicated enough to spend 6 months on the designs alone and put great care into every single card, including the jokers. Our next decks are just as unique. We see the future of this company. We see the beautiful decks that we have in store for you all. I promise, you will be delighted. We hope you see a glimpse of the future too, and see what a special thing it will be to be one of the people that saw our creativity and supported us from the start. We know that all it would take is one bad product from any company to turn people off to them. We know the first impression is vital. And we will do what it takes to earn the trust of Cardist internationally.
The gist is. We love cards, and no matter what, if we have to crawl through broken glass to get these cards made, whether it takes only this project to kickstart us, or if it takes us a lifetime, we will stop at nothing to see these cards and our future decks around the world in the hands of people that really enjoy them as much as we do. We are a designer company that insists on offering the highest quality playing cards with the most unique and out there designs we can imagine. We hope you see our vision, the amount of work we have put into these cards and this project, and join us.
Thank you to everyone for your support, and we hope to see you be a part of this project. Ask us anything you like, just please understand that we would like to keep our printer private. This is just the beginning, and there is much more we will be sharing with you all in the coming months and years. Hope to see you support us on Kickstarter, and we hope to have a deck of GalaxY CardS in your hands soon!
Here is a link to my (Jeremiah's) first cardistry video. I know, it's not insanely awesome, but I love cards and wanted to document me getting a grip on the first few things I learned. I made this a few days after we launched the first project.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZEVIzSEBGE
-Jeremiah and Sebastian
-AlieN InK
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9 paragraphs worth of words and it contains zero content.
This is my last post on the topic. Good luck with the Kickstarter, and I do truly hope the cards will be good. Unfortunately, you won't see a dime of my money without the printer information. BTW, don't worry about telling us who the printer is, CCCC will never use anyone but USPCC.
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9 paragraphs worth of words and it contains zero content.
This is my last post on the topic. Good luck with the Kickstarter, and I do truly hope the cards will be good. Unfortunately, you won't see a dime of my money without the printer information. BTW, don't worry about telling us who the printer is, CCCC will never use anyone but USPCC.
I know what you mean regarding the printer - but I tried recently to find out the printer who made the MSM decks (Moth/Myth & The Watcher). They also keep their printer a proprietary secret. It's a bloody nuisance, but a small number of companies do this. The MSM decks handle excellently, but all I can tell you about the printer is that it's likely a company in Taiwan somewhere, or maybe one of the free-trade zones like Shenzen.
@Blot153 - you consulted with me on this deck and asked me for some advice. I didn't expect you to take all of it as gospel, but it looks like you didn't take a word of it seriously. People want substance in the card collecting world, not promises and goofy ad campaigns. You take cards seriously? Drop the hyperbole and get down to the facts. BTW: the term "cambric" as a proprietary finish name is probably owned by USPC, who've been using it on cards for about a century-plus now, so I wouldn't go around stating that unless you're waiting to hear from their attorneys.
I was a backer of this project before you canceled it, stating that you were "being acquired by a larger company." Good luck with that, but if you drag this back to KS, I'd have to think long and hard before backing this for a second time...wait, scratch that - I have to rein in my deck spending anyway, so no, no second time around for me.
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That was Spider Realms that said they were being acquired by a larger company, not us.
I own a Casino Bee deck and have done some research, and 'cambric finish' is not owned by USPCC. 'Bee-Cambric Finish' and the absolutely brilliant designs on their court cards, backs and stunning jokers are.
I did appreciate your advice Don, and I will be applying much of it to our next deck. I understand your position in the world of Cardistry and it would be silly not to pay close attention to what you recommended. However, many of the design changes you recommended are as design heavy as they are brilliant, and our design is what people on Kickstarter have pledged for. Look for them in the next edition of GalaxY CardS.
Sorry to hear about those that won't pledge their dimes, but as you can see, it is a select few that will be able to say that they were there at the beginning of AlieN InK. Fewer I would think even, than could say they bought Bicycle or Bee's first deck. Fortune favors the bold.
It is hard for me to imagine anyone feeling comfortable giving away information (namely our printer) to a group of people that have done nothing but accuse us of stealing the images used on the deck after we clearly stated how we made them, and seriously attempting to drive our deck into the ground. The thread made to simply make people aware of our deck on UC became an all out war against us, before we had even gotten to the board to speak a word. We were contacted and advised to go to the boards to defend ourselves. With as many people up in arms, we know we are doing something right. I could care less when an ant walks in front of me but people get really upset when there is a lion in the room don't they?
I believe the creator of Tendril went so far as to yell that our deck should be burned, (twice) like it was some kind of witch hunt. (correct me if I'm wrong, I have a copy of the forum I can double-check, but his name and 'Tendril sold out' was in the signature) We will not miss their pledges.
We will miss yours though Don, as we really did appreciate the time you took to give us some advice and it was very rewarding to hear that you were following the project and had backed us. We will always be a fan of you and your composure and your willingness to be open with us.
Well I'm sure that this has again, been nothing but blah blah blah, so I bid you farewell.
-Jeremiah
-AlieN InK
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I don't know why people care who the printer is. That's idiotic at best. How it be a guarantee of quality if customers know that Gemaco is making these decks? Gemaco has stock/finish combos that far surpass anything the USPCC has made, and their printer quality makes the USPCC look like a joke. And yet there are tons of garbage decks that are made by them. Same goes for Cartamundi, Anglo, etc.
Don't cave in, there is no reason you should release a printer's name. However, if you don't want to do that, you have to give some kind of assurance to backers. Get a prototype deck in, and show how it handles. If you spend so much time finding a printer, and made your decision based on handling quality, then you should have gotten something close to a full deck to demonstrate that.
Getting the cards in the hands of reviewers only helps after the cards are produced.
I've seen what MSM did with their cards, and their decks make any USPCC deck look like a joke when it comes to handling. Those morons that honestly think USPCC is the "best" there is are just trying to push their own sales and promote themselves. However, the USPCC is a 100% guarantee that a deck will at the very least have good handling, and perhaps even outstanding.
There has to be a compromise between you and backers. If you can't listen to feedback and act on it, don't expect to double or triple your funding goals. Russell and Lance didn't kick their goals in the ass by refusing to budge. When fans overwhelmingly wanted something, they were more than willing to listen.
What you said about Paul (creator of Tendril) seems very out of character. He is starting his own business, and making attacks of that nature would likely haunt him in the future. If you do have a quote, post it, instead of just accusing the person.
I will grant you that the folks on UC exaggerated things quite a bit. One guy said something about this hurting the sales of other decks, I believe.
However, keep in mind that they were very shocked by your video. Before you guys put that atrocious thing up, the support for you was mixed, but overall positive. Seriously, what did you film it on? A potato? I get that you may not have the experience/funds to get an amazing camera and do awesome video editing, but in these scenarios it'd be best to just have nothing at all. Plenty of KS deck campaigns succeed with no video.
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Re: Galaxy deck at Kickstarter
Postby xmetal ยป Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:06 pm
Utterfool wrote:These guys just put up a video for this deck.
Wow.
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In this case, the smilies perfectly encapsulate my overall reaction. I know it's tricky to market yourself and your ideas, but oh my sweet Lord in Heaven that is not the way to do it.
Kill it! Burns it with fire!
Paul Carpenter - Encarded Designer
http://encarded.com
Tendril: Sold Out | Aurum: Coming Late 2012
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I don't want to try and quote Paul (xmetal) but I think he was referring to you guys "Killing it and Burning it with Fire" with your video you posted last week. He was commenting on the bad choice of marketing tactics.
thanks, Randy
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Yep, I sure said that about the VIDEO. The cards themselves, I really don't care much for but that is my opinion. I stand by my statement about the video, the promo video was mind bogglingly bad for a group that wants to market themselves as a serious entry into playing card design. I also posted later with some realistic advice for them, which I hope might be at least thought about.
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That was Spider Realms that said they were being acquired by a larger company, not us.
I own a Casino Bee deck and have done some research, and 'cambric finish' is not owned by USPCC. 'Bee-Cambric Finish' and the absolutely brilliant designs on their court cards, backs and stunning jokers are.
I did appreciate your advice Don, and I will be applying much of it to our next deck. I understand your position in the world of Cardistry and it would be silly not to pay close attention to what you recommended. However, many of the design changes you recommended are as design heavy as they are brilliant, and our design is what people on Kickstarter have pledged for. Look for them in the next edition of GalaxY CardS.
Sorry to hear about those that won't pledge their dimes, but as you can see, it is a select few that will be able to say that they were there at the beginning of AlieN InK. Fewer I would think even, than could say they bought Bicycle or Bee's first deck. Fortune favors the bold.
It is hard for me to imagine anyone feeling comfortable giving away information (namely our printer) to a group of people that have done nothing but accuse us of stealing the images used on the deck after we clearly stated how we made them, and seriously attempting to drive our deck into the ground. The thread made to simply make people aware of our deck on UC became an all out war against us, before we had even gotten to the board to speak a word. We were contacted and advised to go to the boards to defend ourselves. With as many people up in arms, we know we are doing something right. I could care less when an ant walks in front of me but people get really upset when there is a lion in the room don't they?
I believe the creator of Tendril went so far as to yell that our deck should be burned, (twice) like it was some kind of witch hunt. (correct me if I'm wrong, I have a copy of the forum I can double-check, but his name and 'Tendril sold out' was in the signature) We will not miss their pledges.
We will miss yours though Don, as we really did appreciate the time you took to give us some advice and it was very rewarding to hear that you were following the project and had backed us. We will always be a fan of you and your composure and your willingness to be open with us.
Well I'm sure that this has again, been nothing but blah blah blah, so I bid you farewell.
-Jeremiah
-AlieN InK
About Spider Kingdoms - my mistake.
The design advice was what I expected to be take it or leave it. But the more business-oriented advice probably should have been taken a little more to heart. Card collectors take their business seriously, sometimes a little too much, I'd admit, but seriously nonetheless - they expect the companies that make them to be serious about it as well (not devoid of humor, but largely serious). I watched about the first minute of that video and I didn't see a professional company out to make a solid impression. I saw two guys hanging out who thought it'd be fun to go and make a deck for the heck of it. This is what really dismayed me the most. I lost some confidence in your seriousness about the project you were creating.
Do as you wish on the design - you're artists, and art is subjective. But treat your business like a business and not a way to kill time on summer break.
And ignore anyone who isn't constructive in their critiques. Some people would rather tear things down than build them up.
Best of luck on the project.
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To Blink 153
I was going to stay out of this one, since I had my say at UC. But since my name was brought in by bring a post from there, I thought I would comment here as well.
I will admit you received a lot of vitriolic comments from some of the UC users after the video. The video disgusted me so much that I was one of them.
And when your "brother" came on to defend you he received even more, I was not one of those.
However I think there was a lot of constructive criticism and questioning that you completely ignored. You found it easier (which it is) to defend yourself against the childish attacks, and that is all you did . Besides saying that your printer was a trade secret you never addressed any of the legitimate concerns.
So I will restate here my biggest concern.
You have claimed on many occasions to have received copies of this deck and know that it handles expertly. However you have yet to produce physically for review or (and all I want) is physical evidence through video or image that this deck even exists.
Right now you have shown art work that is computer created and therefore only exists in bytes. Although much of it looks to me, that it is clipped from other sources so should have taken you only a few hours to put together in photoshop, I will take your word that it is original work that took time to create. It is still not proof of a deck.
A person may not ask of such proof of a company that has shown itself to be professional, and until the release of the video I did not ask for it myself (I was a backer). But after seeing that video I had absolute doubt that you could or would bother to come through on your promises. You need to gain back trust and you continue to fail to do this by supplying long drafts with no substance, I will admit however that your last post where you defended yourself and talked less about promises but admitted to some of your mistakes and tried to explain what you have learned , was, actually, a step in the right direction.
The second issue I have is with your secret nature. This is not just about the printer (though it has a lot to do about it) but in general
Keeping a trade secret is fine for a company that is going it alone. But you are not selling your deck on Kickstarter, you are asking for investment in the deck and your company and offering the deck as incentives to invest. A company that is not open to it's investors (freely or when ask questions) does not get investors. Investment is a risk, if you are unable to come through with this project we lose money. (There apparently is some way to get money back through Amazon but it is not a clear and easy system.) People ask questions so that they can minimize their risk. If you don't answer them, they minimize their risk by not investing.
Believe me I actually want to back this project. I am quite fond of the kickstarter system and would like to see it thrive. I am also quite fond of collectible playing cards and do not see a problem with the market being saturated with 100s of awesome cards (I am not in the game for the value). I however would hate to see the market get flooded with 100s of sub par cards, or scam offers.
If you try and answer my concerns fully (go ahead and keep your trade secret just show us the deck) you would probably be able to winme back as a backer.
I am not sure if you really care to though.
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No matter what people say, I'm pretty confident in this deck. I'll watch it during it's few last days of funding and hopefully bid then. I think these cards are wonderfully designed and deserve to be in the hands of many cardists worldwide. I'll message you shortly about another potential offer.
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You are right on, extraordinaire... That's exactly what we want to do, and we love the support of open minded Cardists like yourself. We want to share these decks with as many people around the world as we can. We've got plenty of decks lined up after this one and can't wait to hear your thoughts on those as well! Thank you very much for your comment!
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shame to see it didn't succeed they asked me for advice too heres what i suggested at the first desighn
a lot of people buy decks only from uspcc also some people only buy decks that have the bicycle logo on
also with no borders they wouldnt be good for magic you would need them on both sides as the decks dark
if your sticking with the no borders art type of deck for flourisihng you should put a better back just for flourishing like an aurora or somthing or the galaxy
and the stock and finish to have on a deck at the moment is either bee casino or aristocrat stock and magic finish
it looks like a really nice art deck but you would have to change it for magic users or make the back pop more for cardists i might pledge for some next time im paid
and for the second design they put with the borders i suggested
hi the back looks really nice but i would prefer it without the little planets just whats behind looks awesome but that's just my opinion haha also the ones with the rings should face the same way and be the same size also i think the box needs more work the cards look really nice but the box looks cheap many people buy to collect so they want an awesome looking box the fans look really nice also your welcome im glad i can be of help =D
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shame to see it didn't succeed they asked me for advice too heres what i suggested at the first desighn
Didn't succeed? There's seven days left and they're about $1,200 from their goal, only $5,000.
They have a shot still.
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@Zaganh
We appreciated your feedback very much.
We incorporated what we could into this deck and think that the features that we have, make a great Cardistry and Magic deck. There are even more revisions in the next deck after GalaxY CardS 1st Edition and we are really stepping up the total design elements to be mouthwatering for Cardists and Magicians. I won't give anything away here, but we will have a sneak peek of the next deck in the last few days of this project. Getting this project funded means the next deck that has been built from the ground up incorporating all the feedback from experts in the field had to offer up will happen soon after.
As you can see, we sought out people with experience in this field and asked what they wanted to see in a deck and we have done our best to incorporate what we could into the current design. It is important for us to listen to the constructive criticism we receive from our supporters. I really can't thank the community enough for being willing to help us, and we love the idea of the community having a say in what the would like in a deck. That process is a cornerstone of AlieN InK and you will always see us reaching out to the community.
There is still time to get a deck, and the project is doing great! Hope to see you on Kickstarter!
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@Zaganh
We appreciated your feedback very much.
We incorporated what we could into this deck and think that the features that we have, make a great Cardistry and Magic deck. There are even more revisions in the next deck after GalaxY CardS 1st Edition and we are really stepping up the total design elements to be mouthwatering for Cardists and Magicians. I won't give anything away here, but we will have a sneak peek of the next deck in the last few days of this project. Getting this project funded means the next deck that has been built from the ground up incorporating all the feedback from experts in the field had to offer up will happen soon after.
As you can see, we sought out people with experience in this field and asked what they wanted to see in a deck and we have done our best to incorporate what we could into the current design. It is important for us to listen to the constructive criticism we receive from our supporters. I really can't thank the community enough for being willing to help us, and we love the idea of the community having a say in what the would like in a deck. That process is a cornerstone of AlieN InK and you will always see us reaching out to the community.
There is still time to get a deck, and the project is doing great! Hope to see you on Kickstarter!
You've said a lot, but none of it really addressed the key issue that may end up costing you this project. Your "corporate image" still needs a lot more polish than you've given it, and it probably resulted in a few lost backers - either cancellations or potential investors who decided against investing in the first place. For a project that's coming down to the wire, a few lost backers can be the difference between being funded or coming close but not quite there and getting zero funding.
What do you have to say in regard to that issue?
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shame to see it didn't succeed they asked me for advice too heres what i suggested at the first desighn
Didn't succeed? There's seven days left and they're about $1,200 from their goal, only $5,000.
They have a shot still.
From my browser, I see that the place to pledge is block by a red bar stating the funding was canceled on July 13th.
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shame to see it didn't succeed they asked me for advice too heres what i suggested at the first desighn
Didn't succeed? There's seven days left and they're about $1,200 from their goal, only $5,000.
They have a shot still.
From my browser, I see that the place to pledge is block by a red bar stating the funding was canceled on July 13th.
You're looking at the original project posting. They shut it down and relaunched.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1919551650/galaxy-cards-by-alien-ink-upgraded-playing-cards
They have five days and less than five hundred bucks to go. This will probably end up funded.
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Funded, and I'm glad. I find this whole accusing childish (look who's talking :P I would just wait and see. I think you guys (Alien Ink) should focus on this deck before talking about your futur decks. Because that makes it seem like you're in it for money more than anything else.
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Funded, and I'm glad. I find this whole accusing childish (look who's talking :P I would just wait and see. I think you guys (Alien Ink) should focus on this deck before talking about your futur decks. Because that makes it seem like you're in it for money more than anything else.
It's barely funded as of now - only $40 over. They still need more to cover the inevitable declined credit/debit cards. I'm sure that will materialize.
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What's up Aethercards!
Just wanted to say thanks to ALL our supporters! We needed 5K to make the project possible, and we got it. The cards will be made, they will be delivered, and then we will see on the reviews what everyone has to say about them. One thing is for sure, AlieN InK, GalaxY CardS will be delivered to Plaliens around the world, since they had the vision and the courage to suppport us from the beginning, through the whole process, till today, Funding day, and Mars rover landing day! Be confident that AlieN InK will only be making these cards with the high quality stock and finish that a designer playing card is expected to have.
At this time, we are focusing all our energy into the completion of GalaxY CardS. We will release information later on about future decks.
We also want to wish the best of luck to Lazarus, and we have enjoyed being a part of this journey on kickstarter. Congratulations to Genesis for their funding.
We still have 4 days left on the project, so for those of you that want to support the project, there is still time.
Thanks so much for ALL your support!
Jeremiah and Sebastian
-AlieN InK
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Congrats on this successful release! I look forward to hearing more about your company and decks in the future.