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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Design & Development => Topic started by: ItsMagicITellYou~ on July 03, 2012, 06:55:55 PM
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so ink saturation is a big factor in how quickly a deck wears out. that being said, black cards seem to be quite popular and more people seem to be designing them. So do you think a black stock would be economic for the USPCC to use? like have an actual black sheet that isnt ink. like the monarch boxes. (think construction paper or something along those lines) just a thought :)
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so ink saturation is a big factor in how quickly a deck wears out. that being said, black cards seem to be quite popular and more people seem to be designing them. So do you think a black stock would be economic for the USPCC to use? like have an actual black sheet that isnt ink. like the monarch boxes. (think construction paper or something along those lines) just a thought :)
Ink saturation has more to do with the softness of the card. Depending on how the card is used, that can affect lifespan differently.
In point of fact, if you're talking about "black cards" in the sense of decks like Black Tiger and Black Ghost, there's more of a trend away from those kinds of decks. Many of the more recent releases from the various well-known companies are white-bordered decks with backs in various colors. Artifice v.2, Infinity, LTD, Monarchs, much of what Dan and Dave have put out, NOC decks - these are all "non-black" decks with white borders. One definite trend would be towards a cleaner and more elegant look, which is why some aren't even customizing the faces, such as Zenneth Kok's new Bee deck. He specifically wanted something for his own performances that would allow the audience to recognize the cards and not be distracted by them. A custom-faced deck like Sentinels would have a totally different feel to it, depending on the performance and the performer.
The biggest reason that black decks started falling out of favor, in my opinion, has nothing to do with ink saturation and everything to do with chipped edges. Every card chips at the edges with use, unless they're handled with kid gloves and never riffled. On white decks, it's not much of an issue because the paper beneath is white. But for black decks, it's a totally different story.
I've spoken with others about the idea of using a black paper in the past. The problem then becomes printing on the face in colors and white - you'd have to come up with some kind of silk-screen process, literally sticking the ink to the card's surface. It would very difficult getting the cards to be completely flat at that point - and sensitive fingers would be able to read the inks by touch if they weren't flat.
Rajas Paranjpe at Brahman Playing Cards has mentioned that he can do a similar process using black PVC for the card stock. But I don't think he's actually tried it yet for a client. I have a sample deck of his in the black PVC - it has a certain appeal to it if you're a fan of black decks.
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A large part of the general printing process is based around white paper. Switching that up would be a big deal technically. It would be sweet, but USPCC is most likely not equipped to even try it.
So, just get a Tendril deck to avoid those pesky edge chips. :)
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i would get it but I cant get an eco clip for it.
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i would get it but I cant get an eco clip for it.
...and that's a prerequisite because...?
There's lots of great clips out there!
If you're itching for an Eco clip, get a hold of Rob Butler - that's his baby. I can't say that I blame you for wanting one - I have one of each of the two prototypes and they're great. I *think* I'm still owed a pair of Tendril Eco Clips in black and teal.
If you love a black deck but can't deal with chipping, Paul's Tendrils are a good choice.
If you're dead set on a fully black deck, here's the one that was created by Brahma for Alexander Wang:
http://www.alexanderwang.com/shop/objects/shop-objects-collection/910007/playing-cards
The cards are 100% PVC plastic.
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i would get it but I cant get an eco clip for it.
...and that's a prerequisite because...?
There's lots of great clips out there!
If you're itching for an Eco clip, get a hold of Rob Butler - that's his baby. I can't say that I blame you for wanting one - I have one of each of the two prototypes and they're great. I *think* I'm still owed a pair of Tendril Eco Clips in black and teal.
If you love a black deck but can't deal with chipping, Paul's Tendrils are a good choice.
If you're dead set on a fully black deck, here's the one that was created by Brahma for Alexander Wang:
http://www.alexanderwang.com/shop/objects/shop-objects-collection/910007/playing-cards
The cards are 100% PVC plastic.
because any deck i actually take with me gets damaged, and from all the research i have done eco is the best and i did and gensis eco clips are the only ones he has, I would have to pledge through kickstarter.
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because any deck i actually take with me gets damaged, and from all the research i have done eco is the best and i did and gensis eco clips are the only ones he has, I would have to pledge through kickstarter.
Like I said - get a hold of Rob Butler. He IS Conjuring Creations.
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Off topic-y, but I will have a few clips available in my store after the Kickstarter orders are fulfilled. Sign up for my mailing list or watch Facebook/Twitter to find out when those will be available.