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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Playing Card Plethora => Topic started by: Labyrinth on March 07, 2012, 10:08:34 PM
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Hi
I'm Labyrinth and I come form Taiwan (same as digipunk)
this is my first time to post by myself :)
and here is my new article for Fournier 605 v2
http://labyrinthhsieh.blogspot.com/2012/03/fournier-605-series.html (http://labyrinthhsieh.blogspot.com/2012/03/fournier-605-series.html)
there will be some English for explanation
although my English is not very good
if you have any question of any my post, you can just leave comments for the post I will reply ASAP :)
(because I'm 4th year for dentistry, so I'm busy now, but I still collect the cards!!!)
and I just post a help buy post for yellow deck
if you want to get one just read it
http://aethercards.com/discourse/index.php?topic=2012.0 (http://aethercards.com/discourse/index.php?topic=2012.0)
thanks
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Wow nice review, very detailed pictures. I have these decks and I really like the handling ( great for cuts ). The 505's are similar to your standard bike decks IMHO and the 605's feel alot smoother, not a great deck for fanning, but they handle great for chops,cuts and lifts. The 605's are an ideal deck for magic routines. Welcome to the greatest card forum on the web Labyrinth, hope to read more of your reviews.
Billy.
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@Billy, 605 v2 may fan. Take a look at these pics and scroll down to the bottom of the page: http://www.wretch.cc/blog/VALION/7705338 (http://www.wretch.cc/blog/VALION/7705338)
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hey nice review and welcome to the discourse .
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@Billy, 605 v2 may fan. Take a look at these pics and scroll down to the bottom of the page: http://www.wretch.cc/blog/VALION/7705338 (http://www.wretch.cc/blog/VALION/7705338)
I agree digi, you can fan these cards, but look at the spacing between your cards in the picture ( nice fan by the way ). I love the 605's, but there are nicer fanning decks for the price, that give you a more even card spread. IMHO.
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@Billy, sorry I got you wrong. It's Valion's blog and I don't have any 505 or 605 :mindf-ck: :mindf-ck:
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ha
the reason that I didn't put the fanning picture is I need to hold the camera by my right hand, the light by my left hand
in order to take the picture I want
maybe next time I can put some fanning when I have something to hold the light in the position I want :)
and
I think 605 is good for flourish for "cut"
but not good enough for fanning
if need fanning, I think tally-ho may better than 8)
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nice post man .. are those card smooth finish ?? coz it look quite similar to my aladdin cards
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I really enjoyed that review and I hope you keep em coming!
One other thing... I would like it if you included handling in your review.
And welcome to the Discourse!
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@hawjinjian I think it didn't call smooth finish, because this finish is from USPCC
and 605 use "plastic coated" without air-cushion and use paper, ink, that different from aladdin deck :)
@MagicAddictz if you doesn't mind to read my poor English...
I will be glad to keep post with 2 language 8)
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@labyrinth u were the one that wrote about the secrets of the white lions deck right? I think that it was an awesome 'discovery' I even shared it here.
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@Siegismyname
I think I'm the one that I just search on internet before I post it and I didn't find any post about it
so I just make a post for it :)
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Your review is so nice, Labyrinth. I like that. 8)
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Ah I see some of our biggest Taiwanese collectors are finally coming together here. Good to see you here too, Valion!
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@xZEROx in fact, Taiwan still have some awesome card collectors
and some were underground collectors
that I just start to collect cards after chatting with they :)
Valion and digipunk are some of they :)
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Don't be so humble. I know the few of you on facebook and have seen pictures of your collection (by the way you still haven't accepted my friend request).
I know there are some mad collectors out there on the island and you sure are one of them.
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Don't be so humble. I know the few of you on facebook and have seen pictures of your collection (by the way you still haven't accepted my friend request).
I know there are some mad collectors out there on the island and you sure are one of them.
what's your FB name?
maybe you just send me FB message first let me know who you are :)
because I seldom add FB stranger to friends
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nice post man .. are those card smooth finish ?? coz it look quite similar to my aladdin cards
@hawjinjian I think it didn't call smooth finish, because this finish is from USPCC
and 605 use "plastic coated" without air-cushion and use paper, ink, that different from aladdin deck :)
Whether a deck is smooth or textured/linen/air-cushion/linoid/cambric/bumpy is all in the stock, not the finish. It's a marketing misnomer that many companies like to use. The stock for the Fournier 605 is smooth, and Fournier has their own formula for their finish. Furthermore, I think the 605s may be "dip-coated" or somehow finished after the cards have been cut, because the edge is also protected by the finish - it's why you can actually wash a pack of 605s in water, if you're careful and follow Lee Asher's directions. You wouldn't dream of doing that with any USPC Kentucky or Ohio deck made from at least the '80s forward to today.
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Whether a deck is smooth or textured/linen/air-cushion/linoid/cambric/bumpy is all in the stock, not the finish. It's a marketing misnomer that many companies like to use. The stock for the Fournier 605 is smooth, and Fournier has their own formula for their finish. Furthermore, I think the 605s may be "dip-coated" or somehow finished after the cards have been cut, because the edge is also protected by the finish - it's why you can actually wash a pack of 605s in water, if you're careful and follow Lee Asher's directions. You wouldn't dream of doing that with any USPC Kentucky or Ohio deck made from at least the '80s forward to today.
from I start to collect I just saw the "air-cushion finish" on 808 box, or "linoid finish" on tallyho box
does the "finish" mean "the last work for card paper after printing"?
and from some information I got before
air-cushion / smooth finish for bicycle stock
linoid finish for tallyho stock
cambric/ivory finish for bee stock
I'm not sure that 605's finish protect its card edge or not
(I think not, because I think it's to expensive for make some finish for single card)
and 605 just write down "plastic- coated" on 4 of clubs :)
I think I just try water wash 605 next time (when my 605 get dirty)
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Whether a deck is smooth or textured/linen/air-cushion/linoid/cambric/bumpy is all in the stock, not the finish. It's a marketing misnomer that many companies like to use. The stock for the Fournier 605 is smooth, and Fournier has their own formula for their finish. Furthermore, I think the 605s may be "dip-coated" or somehow finished after the cards have been cut, because the edge is also protected by the finish - it's why you can actually wash a pack of 605s in water, if you're careful and follow Lee Asher's directions. You wouldn't dream of doing that with any USPC Kentucky or Ohio deck made from at least the '80s forward to today.
from I start to collect I just saw the "air-cushion finish" on 808 box, or "linoid finish" on tallyho box
does the "finish" mean "the last work for card paper after printing"?
and from some information I got before
air-cushion / smooth finish for bicycle stock
linoid finish for tallyho stock
cambric/ivory finish for bee stock
I'm not sure that 605's finish protect its card edge or not
(I think not, because I think it's to expensive for make some finish for single card)
and 605 just write down "plastic- coated" on 4 of clubs :)
I think I just try water wash 605 next time (when my 605 get dirty)
Before you go washing your cards, download the PDF on the subject at leeasher.com! He also has a good article on the care and feeding of Jerry's Nugget decks which has a lot of sound advice for more garden-variety decks as well. In the 605s PDF, he explains how the cards are coated with finish, which protects not just the back and face but also the edges - the finish was applied after the card was printed and cut. Pretty much all American-made decks coat the paper before the cards are cut.
The "finish" is the layer of clear varnish added to a deck sheet after it's been printed, but before it's been cut. I've written many posts on the subject of USPC finishes and stocks, but this is probably the most comprehensive of them. The topic was about the Doomsday deck, but the topic took a tangent when I mentioned that the newest CARC Bee Erdnase deck, the black and metallic silver deck, was the first Erdnase deck to use Magic Finish and that the "Ivory" version was the first smooth card to use Magic Finish.
http://aethercards.com/discourse/index.php?topic=756.msg35810#msg35810
The short version of that post is that there are exactly two finishes in the entire USPC catalog (a third one is in development and being tested on a small percentage of the Vortex decks). There's also exactly four different stocks, though there are many variants of them. Any branding regarding Linoid, Cambric, Air Cushion, Linen, etc. is just that, branding - different ways of describing the same exact thing. Texture differences are not in the finish, despite what the marketing convinces people, but in the stock.
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Ah I see some of our biggest Taiwanese collectors are finally coming together here. Good to see you here too, Valion!
Actually Valion is my idol and he's in California ???