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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Design & Development => Topic started by: zaganh on February 26, 2012, 01:52:40 AM
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desighning a deck called the light deck
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Didn't you post this in another thread already? I'm not sure why you have to open up another thread for opinions.
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Didn't you post this in another thread already? I'm not sure why you have to open up another thread for opinions.
because i htought rather than like make an ace for this deck desighn then a back desighn for another deck i htought if i think of a deck the next bit of that deck i would add the the thread thats just about that one if that makes sense or am i better just putting all desighns into one thread ?
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Wow lol I couldn't understand that at all. Say what?
Maybe try to use punctuations and correct spellings. I'm having a hard time trying to understand. >.<
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Wow lol I couldn't understand that at all. Say what?
Maybe try to use punctuations and correct spellings. I'm having a hard time trying to understand. >.<
haha i tried i dont know how to use them
i meant rather than have one thread of muddled desighns each time i think of a deck i would post a new thread then if or when i continue the desighn for that deck i would add it to the one thats just for that deck
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Oh lol okay. I get what you're saying now.
Then maybe try to edit the title and let people know these designs are for two separate decks. You'll probably want to post the picture once too, otherwise people would think you want to use the same design for two decks.
Don't know how to use...punctuations? @.@ Isn't that the first thing you learn in English class? I've also noticed that a lot of the times your "h" and "n" come out together, like "desighn".
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Yeah yup mhm.
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Oh lol okay. I get what you're saying now.
Then maybe try to edit the title and let people know these designs are for two separate decks. You'll probably want to post the picture once too, otherwise people would think you want to use the same design for two decks.
Don't know how to use...punctuations? @.@ Isn't that the first thing you learn in English class? I've also noticed that a lot of the times your "h" and "n" come out together, like "desighn".
haha ill edit it and i posted it twice because i htought about it after haha
yep but i could never learn it some things just wont go into my mind like i studied at an it aprentership and i got microsoft certified and passed loades of tests i dont rember at all what i did i have no information on computers i go to the doctors and diffrent places to be assest they think i have dislexia dispraxia and somthing else im on some mental health thing im not sure but things like punctuation adding subtracting without a calculator i pretty well much can only do primary level math if that they said i might have a bit of alot of things like a spectrum im 19 and i failed my maths test i think 7 times that was 5 motnh ago
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My honest opinion is that I don't like that design.
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My honest opinion is that I don't like that design.
haha would it look better on white or not at all ?
Yeah yup mhm.
cool
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I think you could have a grew design but your designs are um... sloppy in a way. You wouldn't actually put that exact artwork on a card right? It has to be put in the perfect shape like any other ace of spades.
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I think you could have a grew design but your designs are um... sloppy in a way. You wouldn't actually put that exact artwork on a card right? It has to be put in the perfect shape like any other ace of spades.
yeah i just scribble somthing down harldy no work goes into them there just ideas i wouldnt put any acual work into it unles i here everyone loves desighn i really like this one but not sure other people will yep there very sloppy just sketches ill mirror the brush if i was to do it properly these are just ideas of what could be
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that looks pretty cool but you should make it cleaner.
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The biggest problem is how dark the drawings are. I can see no detail and it's hard to see what you are trying to convey in the sketches. Try drawing on white paper to start. After that it'll be easier to give good feedback
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Like brown_baggs said, it's hard to identify the details to these drawings. It's somewhat hard on the eyes.
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thanks guys white paper coming up ill do deisghns there =D thanks for feedback everyone i aprecheate it
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If you're not using white paper, maybe at least use photoshop or even the windows photo editor to adjust the contrast a little? I could barely see anything besides the yellow outline (diamond and square).
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Yeah I can only see the diamond and square. What are you using to do your sketches?
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If you're not using white paper, maybe at least use photoshop or even the windows photo editor to adjust the contrast a little? I could barely see anything besides the yellow outline (diamond and square).
i draw on white i just used to prefer black but i just redrew it on white in more detail haha i tend to forget when i scrible somthing down only i can see the vision of what it can be ill keep adding detail when i have time
Yeah I can only see the diamond and square. What are you using to do your sketches?
paint tools and phtoshop somtime somtimes corel and z brush if i want it mirrored
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That looks much better!! It seemed like an ipad app or something. Do you prefer a sketch feel over more straight lines?
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That looks much better!! It seemed like an ipad app or something. Do you prefer a sketch feel over more straight lines?
haha thank you yep when im like in the first stages the messy sketchy look alows me to be more bold then when i want it clean and deatiled phtoshop comes in and thats the tediouse long bit ill finish this in photo shop to show you what i mean or well half do it to give you an idea it will take long haha also i like the messy panted blurry look but it wouldnt look nice on a deck haha
if you look at the top irght vine with the thorns it will end up like that but more detailed but you get the idea and my process it takes long its to do its just me cklicking the mouse and drwaing lines and filling them in and more lines and shapes haha its the lasso tool pencil and paint bucket ^^
heres more of my artwork so you see my style
http://zaganh.deviantart.com/#/d32elhq
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This one looks great with the colouring! Now I could see some details! I'm looking forward to one of those completed designs with all the details and everything photoshopped. Good luck!
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This one looks great with the colouring! Now I could see some details! I'm looking forward to one of those completed designs with all the details and everything photoshopped. Good luck!
thank you ill work on it and try get looking best as possible what would everyone prefer white or black deck ? is it starting to look like a deck any of you would be intrested in ?
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Not just yet because it's just a basic sketch right? But I'm sure it's getting there.
I personally prefer black deck but that's just me.
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Not just yet because it's just a basic sketch right? But I'm sure it's getting there.
I personally prefer black deck but that's just me.
yes its just the basic sketch i will be developing each area more it should look really cool when all the details there and its finished and polished oh cool
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thanks guys white paper coming up ill do deisghns there =D thanks for feedback everyone i aprecheate it
You're a nice guy, but please - you're torturing me! Use "spellcheck" at the very least. I left my Zaganhian to English dictionary behind when I moved last... ???
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As of this point I REALLY enjoy the spade and the diamond. This is Avery promising start, and if you keep this up, I will really like it.
The only thing that is weird for me is that the diamond is yellow, so it won't match the other cards.
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thanks guys white paper coming up ill do designs there =D thanks for feedback everyone i appreciate it
You're a nice guy, but please - you're torturing me! Use "spellcheck" at the very least. I left my Zaganhian to English dictionary behind when I moved last... ???
thank you ha ha I'm sorry i will =D
As of this point I REALLY enjoy the spade and the diamond. This is Avery promising start, and if you keep this up, I will really like it.
The only thing that is weird for me is that the diamond is yellow, so it won't match the other cards.
wow really awesome i hope you like the first concept of the ace of hearts =D below
well I'm planing the red cards to have red in the middle and yellow on the outside and the other two black cards be brown and green hope everyone likes
this is the first concept of the ace of hearts just so everyone gets a general idea of where this deck is going remember its freehand guys ill mirror them later its just me with a pen and tablet at 8am ha ha and music on repeat
ps tilt your screens back so its a little darker it looks better :P
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That heart looks really good!! I like the style. It'd be nice to see a mock up of one of the cards so that I can envision it as a deck instead of a drawing. Ya know what I mean? It's looking better though! Nice work
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That heart looks really good!! I like the style. It'd be nice to see a mock up of one of the cards so that I can envision it as a deck instead of a drawing. Ya know what I mean? It's looking better though! Nice work
thank you brown baggs =D i just did one for you after you put the comment i rushed to do it ha ha i even mirrored it for you let me know what you think ha ha i know what you mean thank you ^^
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mock up of ace of hearts feedback please guys ^^
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I like it! Kind of hard to tell it's hearts from the pips though...
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I like it! Kind of hard to tell it's hearts from the pips though...
thank you ^^ oh well the pips wont be like that basically i just drew the heart then brown bags wanted to visualize how it would look on a card but my pen setting were off in photo shop so i couldn't draw the pip right so i held shift while i drew to make an even pip you know a quick one with straight lines they wont Be like that i kind of like them after i did it though ha ha ill have some pips up soon
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I think these designs really are starting to come together!
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I think these designs really are starting to come together!
thank you ^^ hmm what next to desighn
the pips or the back what would people like to see ?
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I'm more interested in the back.
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I'm more interested in the back.
would you all like me to design one back and then people can tell me what bits they like and what bits they don't or make a few back designs and you vote on one and then i can work more into that
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Wow. I haven't looked at this thread in a little while and I guess I missed a good amount. I love the artwork! Its getting better and better! I really like that you used yellow because its not too common with playing cards. Great work man and I can't wait to see more designs!
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Wow. I haven't looked at this thread in a little while and I guess I missed a good amount. I love the artwork! Its getting better and better! I really like that you used yellow because its not too common with playing cards. Great work man and I can't wait to see more designs!
thank you =D i know right i love yellow it should make an awesome change I'm glad everyones liking yellow so far i just finished v2 of the ace of hearts =D
let me know what you think guys ^^ I'm going to design everything all custom i hope when i finish it Alex could help me get it over to kick starter hopefully people would go for it ^^
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I like the V2 of the Ace of Hearts better. My only problem with it is that it looks like a face and it bugs me lol.
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I like the V2 of the Ace of Hearts better. My only problem with it is that it looks like a face and it bugs me lol.
awesome im glad people liking the progression haha does everyone have that problem should i take the nose away or somthing ?
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I like the V2 of the Ace of Hearts better. My only problem with it is that it looks like a face and it bugs me lol.
awesome im glad people liking the progression haha does everyone have that problem should i take the nose away or somthing ?
I actually like that the heart looks sort of like a face, it's a unique little twist.
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I like the V2 of the Ace of Hearts better. My only problem with it is that it looks like a face and it bugs me lol.
awesome I'm glad people liking the progression ha ha does everyone have that problem should i take the nose away or something ?
I actually like that the heart looks sort of like a face, it's a unique little twist.
awesome ^^ it will defiantly pop anyway should draw people attention should the name be changed and would people like this white or black deck ?
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I like the V2 of the Ace of Hearts better. My only problem with it is that it looks like a face and it bugs me lol.
awesome I'm glad people liking the progression ha ha does everyone have that problem should i take the nose away or something ?
I actually like that the heart looks sort of like a face, it's a unique little twist.
awesome ^^ it will defiantly pop anyway should draw people attention should the name be changed and would people like this white or black deck ?
From the designs I've seen, I think I would like to see this as a white deck. But I think you should post pics of it on black and then on white.
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I like the V2 of the Ace of Hearts better. My only problem with it is that it looks like a face and it bugs me lol.
awesome I'm glad people liking the progression ha ha does everyone have that problem should i take the nose away or something ?
I actually like that the heart looks sort of like a face, it's a unique little twist.
awesome ^^ it will defiantly pop anyway should draw people attention should the name be changed and would people like this white or black deck ?
From the designs I've seen, I think I would like to see this as a white deck. But I think you should post pics of it on black and then on white.
cool ill get both of those up in the next few days i was messing with the colour how this look nightshade colour heart
im eager to get on with more desighns but i havent got my graphics tablet with me at the moment so i was just toying with colour ^^
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I actually prefer this over the yellow one. There hasn't been a whole lot of decks on purple. Of the two, I'd choose the later, for its contrast.
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I actually prefer this over the yellow one. There hasn't been a whole lot of decks on purple. Of the two, I'd choose the later, for its contrast.
awesome ill put a poll up weather to have purple instead of yellow hearts and diamond's purple and spades and clubs yellow in the spaces where theres not much happening I'm going to have a cool like paters shining through like light does that sound cool ? purple would be nice on a black deck ^^
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Just don't fall into the Tattoo Deck trap - don't make a four suit-color deck! They're not easy for many solitaire games and decks that are too far from the standard don't generally sell as well. The only practical four suit-color decks I've seen are the super/jumbo/low-vision decks for people with eye problems, to make the suits easier for them to distinguish - but even many of those still also have the traditional black-red pips as well on each card.
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Just don't fall into the Tattoo Deck trap - don't make a four suit-color deck! They're not easy for many solitaire games and decks that are too far from the standard don't generally sell as well. The only practical four suit-color decks I've seen are the super/jumbo/low-vision decks for people with eye problems, to make the suits easier for them to distinguish - but even many of those still also have the traditional black-red pips as well on each card.
is there too many colours on them now or do they seem ok would you prefer it more plain ? like the pic under should i go for just two diffrent colours or yellow for 2 and black for 2 or just standard ?
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Just don't fall into the Tattoo Deck trap - don't make a four suit-color deck! They're not easy for many solitaire games and decks that are too far from the standard don't generally sell as well. The only practical four suit-color decks I've seen are the super/jumbo/low-vision decks for people with eye problems, to make the suits easier for them to distinguish - but even many of those still also have the traditional black-red pips as well on each card.
is there too many colours on them now or do they seem ok would you prefer it more plain ? like the pic under should i go for just two diffrent colours or yellow for 2 and black for 2 or just standard ?
You can change the traditional red and black to two different colors - the most common way to do this would be the lighter color is the swap for red, unless it's a black deck. I'm talking about the use of four DIFFERENT colors, one for each suit. Great for old people who have trouble distinguishing suits, but a bit ugly and very difficult to use for most solitaire games. Poker players normally wouldn't touch those with a ten-foot pole.
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Just don't fall into the Tattoo Deck trap - don't make a four suit-color deck! They're not easy for many solitaire games and decks that are too far from the standard don't generally sell as well. The only practical four suit-color decks I've seen are the super/jumbo/low-vision decks for people with eye problems, to make the suits easier for them to distinguish - but even many of those still also have the traditional black-red pips as well on each card.
is there too many colours on them now or do they seem ok would you prefer it more plain ? like the pic under should i go for just two diffrent colours or yellow for 2 and black for 2 or just standard ?
You can change the traditional red and black to two different colors - the most common way to do this would be the lighter color is the swap for red, unless it's a black deck. I'm talking about the use of four DIFFERENT colors, one for each suit. Great for old people who have trouble distinguishing suits, but a bit ugly and very difficult to use for most solitaire games. Poker players normally wouldn't touch those with a ten-foot pole.
oh no i didn't mean that when i say blue and cream for clubs and spades i mean both the spades and clubs will be both blue and cream they ll only be 2 colours for suits or it would get crazy ha ha i mean like the edges of the yellow are red so both hearts and diamonds would be that same yellow and red colour
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Interesting concept, but it'll be relatively more expensive to print so many colours on a deck. But I do like the design right now.
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Interesting concept, but it'll be relatively more expensive to print so many colours on a deck. But I do like the design right now.
True, but no more so than if he were making any other fully-custom deck. Full-custom decks see to be pretty popular these days - the next Blue Crown deck, Vaudeville, will be a full-custom job, and aside from the LTD., it's been a while since E released a deck that wasn't full-custom. People have been busting on Dan and Dave as well as T11 for, among other things, rarely releasing full-custom decks.
The point of all that being: a full-custom deck would sell better and faster than one that isn't, as long as it's a quality job from start to finish.
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Interesting concept, but it'll be relatively more expensive to print so many colours on a deck. But I do like the design right now.
True, but no more so than if he were making any other fully-custom deck. Full-custom decks see to be pretty popular these days - the next Blue Crown deck, Vaudeville, will be a full-custom job, and aside from the LTD., it's been a while since E released a deck that wasn't full-custom. People have been busting on Dan and Dave as well as T11 for, among other things, rarely releasing full-custom decks.
The point of all that being: a full-custom deck would sell better and faster than one that isn't, as long as it's a quality job from start to finish.
hopefully everyone will love the deck haha ill put the same quality into every aspect and with the feedback from people here it should be awesome hopefully it will do well on kickstarter and i can keep designing full custom decks if people take a liking to this one
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starting to draw up the joker
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Dang that's an interesting looking joker!! What look are you going for? It looks like a monster or something ???
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Dang that's an interesting looking joker!! What look are you going for? It looks like a monster or something ???
the arms are cards shooting out of it or going into it to assemble it im not sure yet haha and the shoulders have j for jokers on one joker those will be gold and on the other red the reveal will be in the blue dome and it will look more clownish by the end ^^ theyll be reds and golds hoping you all like the end result i wasnt sure what i was drawing until i had the main shapes already drawn haha i wanted a cool menacing looking joker
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Interesting Joker... it's cool but not something I'd like on a deck of cards. I think you should keep working on the Joker.
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I've been thinking about it and thinking about it - I finally figured it out. Your heart design bears a strong resemblance to the "lion-faced spade" on the Ace from the White Lions deck!
I would show you a picture from David Blaine's site, but it appears that all products were pulled! There's zero items listed for sale! No decks, no AIP bottles, no t-shirts, no caps, no posters - nothing.
EDIT: found an image on the Playing Cards Wiki:
http://playingcards.wikidot.com/local--files/split-spades:white-lions/Split%20Spades%20White%20Lions.JPG
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Interesting Joker... it's cool but not something I'd like on a deck of cards. I think you should keep working on the Joker.
would you like it more simple ill draw up another mock and leave this one ?
I've been thinking about it and thinking about it - I finally figured it out. Your heart design bears a strong resemblance to the "lion-faced spade" on the Ace from the White Lions deck!
I would show you a picture from David Blaine's site, but it appears that all products were pulled! There's zero items listed for sale! No decks, no AIP bottles, no t-shirts, no caps, no posters - nothing.
EDIT: found an image on the Playing Cards Wiki:
http://playingcards.wikidot.com/local--files/split-spades:white-lions/Split%20Spades%20White%20Lions.JPG
really that's awesome i wish mine was as cool as anything on a David Blaine deck let me check the image i see what you mean but mines no where near as cool >< maybe one day thanks for finding the pic for me that's strange there stuff has gone they where still selling white lions last week
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really that's awesome i wish mine was as cool as anything on a David Blaine deck let me check the image i see what you mean but mines no where near as cool >< maybe one day thanks for finding the pic for me that's strange there stuff has gone they where still selling white lions last week
Are you sure? They've been sold out of White Lions for some time now. They had the White Lions "Anything is Possible" bottle still for sale, but they were down to their last 19 or so.
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really that's awesome i wish mine was as cool as anything on a David Blaine deck let me check the image i see what you mean but mines no where near as cool >< maybe one day thanks for finding the pic for me that's strange there stuff has gone they where still selling white lions last week
Are you sure? They've been sold out of White Lions for some time now. They had the White Lions "Anything is Possible" bottle still for sale, but they were down to their last 19 or so.
yep they were selling 2 for 25 dollars i think it was i checked last week because during the mana release i was working out a trade and the guy mentioned white lions and i showed him they were still there on the site it was 1 signed one normal deal
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well then i will keep an eye on these deck.
2 white lions for 3 v6? or 1v5 and 1v6?
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erm hwite linos are 2 for 25 dollars on his site and v5 about 20 to 25 v6 are about 15 i think
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who's site?
Zagan Zaz Hall
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david blaines haha
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oh alright! then we will stick with the old one first. need to think first! HAHA:D
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Mmm I don't think you should've showed your private messages in public. It's between you and the other member. Letting us know the content is more than enough already. Just to keep a little privacy for others. :)
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There used to be 2 white lions sets for $25 but now when I went to his site there is no products at all.
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Mmm I don't think you should've showed your private messages in public. It's between you and the other member. Letting us know the content is more than enough already. Just to keep a little privacy for others. :)
im sure he wont mind we was doing it on selling and trading wall but i moved it private he was offering those trades to everyone even i dont remember why was was talking about white lions because i dont have any to trade and i was trading my decks for mana but ill take the name away ^^
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really that's awesome i wish mine was as cool as anything on a David Blaine deck let me check the image i see what you mean but mines no where near as cool >< maybe one day thanks for finding the pic for me that's strange there stuff has gone they where still selling white lions last week
Are you sure? They've been sold out of White Lions for some time now. They had the White Lions "Anything is Possible" bottle still for sale, but they were down to their last 19 or so.
yep they were selling 2 for 25 dollars i think it was i checked last week because during the mana release i was working out a trade and the guy mentioned white lions and i showed him they were still there on the site it was 1 signed one normal deal
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well then i will keep an eye on these deck.
2 white lions for 3 v6? or 1v5 and 1v6?
Zagan Zaz Hall
March 4
Zagan Zaz Hall
erm hwite linos are 2 for 25 dollars on his site and v5 about 20 to 25 v6 are about 15 i think
white lions*
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who's site?
Zagan Zaz Hall
March 4
Zagan Zaz Hall
david blaines haha
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oh alright! then we will stick with the old one first. need to think first! HAHA:D
I knew about the two-deck pairs - it's how I got my WLs in the first place. I thought they sold out of those already, though.
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Wow! REally looking nice! I don't like the joker a whole lot but I do really love the Aces!
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Wow! REally looking nice! I don't like the joker a whole lot but I do really love the Aces!
awesome im glad your liking the aces and im listening to the people and im drawing up v2 of the joker here is the rough sketch of what it will be it will be in the dark and look really cool
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update two feedback please guys ? make sure you see it full size click it then click it to zoom again for best detail
i really like this one compared to the other i hope you guys do too and thank you for giving me feedback other wise i would of never started to draw this joker
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Sorry, I hate to be a downer but I'm not a fan of this joker either. But don't make me the one that makes you change your designs... if everyone else likes it, go with it. And in the end, its your deck so it should be how you like it.
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update two feedback please guys ? make sure you see it full size click it then click it to zoom again for best detail
i really like this one compared to the other i hope you guys do too and thank you for giving me feedback other wise i would of never started to draw this joker
Looks a bit nightmarish. If that's the look you were shooting for, you hit the target in the bull's-eye.
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Sorry, I hate to be a downer but I'm not a fan of this joker either. But don't make me the one that makes you change your designs... if everyone else likes it, go with it. And in the end, its your deck so it should be how you like it.
haha at least you like the main cards so far :P i think ill finish this one and ill keep ideas for it coming
update two feedback please guys ? make sure you see it full size click it then click it to zoom again for best detail
i really like this one compared to the other i hope you guys do too and thank you for giving me feedback other wise i would of never started to draw this joker
Looks a bit nightmarish. If that's the look you were shooting for, you hit the target in the bull's-eye.
awesome yep i wanted a menacing cool looking joker something goblinesque and creepy and scary it will be lurking in the dark if its a black deck so it should look really cool when its finished =D I'm excited to get it done
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another update still in progress
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The new joker is looking better! Will he have a body?
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The new joker is looking better! Will he have a body?
thank you ^^ i was just going to do the head coming out of the darkness should i put a body too ? =)
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The new joker is looking better! Will he have a body?
thank you ^^ i was just going to do the head coming out of the darkness should i put a body too ? =)
I recommend a body, or at least a change in the shape of the head. The more I look at the shape, the more I think it resembles a vagina.
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The new joker is looking better! Will he have a body?
thank you ^^ i was just going to do the head coming out of the darkness should i put a body too ? =)
I recommend a body, or at least a change in the shape of the head. The more I look at the shape, the more I think it resembles a vagina.
haha you keep seeing things in the cards i miss ill add more jester bits at the top and draw up a body ^^ long and thin ? or short and plump ? what does everyone think
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The new joker is looking better! Will he have a body?
thank you ^^ i was just going to do the head coming out of the darkness should i put a body too ? =)
I recommend a body, or at least a change in the shape of the head. The more I look at the shape, the more I think it resembles a vagina.
haha you keep seeing things in the cards i miss ill add more jester bits at the top and draw up a body ^^ long and thin ? or short and plump ? what does everyone think
Long and thin with big head - think Jack Skellington.
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started sketching the back desighns heres a little preview of a part of it
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started up on the back desighn let me know what you all think its in progress it will be mirrored after i colour the top half
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My first thought is that the back design looks like the first designs of the Aurum deck.
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My first thought is that the back design looks like the first designs of the Aurum deck.
wow thats a big compliment i wish haha the reason it dosent look as painted as the others is because im drawing it with a stylus on my ipad so i changed my style it would of been the same but looked painted and not as clean how does everyone like it ?
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updated again the back desighn in progress