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Title: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: dmbaggs on January 23, 2012, 11:04:09 PM
Now available! Same day as the deck release of the Chinatown deck. Check it out...


(http://shop.dananddave.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/690x390/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/c/h/chinatown-uncut-1.jpg)


Get yours here now... http://shop.dananddave.com/playing-cards/fultons-chinatown-year-of-the-dragon-playing-cards-uncut-sheet.html (http://shop.dananddave.com/playing-cards/fultons-chinatown-year-of-the-dragon-playing-cards-uncut-sheet.html)
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: zaganh on January 24, 2012, 01:35:55 AM
on the pic next to this the deck is covering a card it looks like it has somthing dark and bllack on it that might be cool ^^
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: moonexe on January 24, 2012, 01:44:15 AM
I think that's a QR code... Ad card? Or maybe smartphone reveal?
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: zaganh on January 24, 2012, 01:46:17 AM
I think that's a QR code... Ad card? Or maybe smartphone reveal?

oh yeah it looks like one of those like on the tungstene maybe its a link to the custom brick box they desighned and couldnt print haha
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: KPopFever605 on January 24, 2012, 01:47:44 AM
I'm starting to see a trend among D&D:

1) Release the Uncut Sheet the Same Day with the Decks

2) Hand Out Decks accompanying each Uncut Sheet Sold

From what I can remember, both of these techniques were first used by D&D solely for the purpose of bringing in more dough. Not that I'm hating of it in any way,shape,size, or form. :D
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Don Boyer on January 24, 2012, 02:10:18 AM
I'm starting to see a trend among D&D:

1) Release the Uncut Sheet the Same Day with the Decks

2) Hand Out Decks accompanying each Uncut Sheet Sold

From what I can remember, both of these techniques were first used by D&D solely for the purpose of bringing in more dough. Not that I'm hating of it in any way,shape,size, or form. :D

Getting a free deck with an uncut is never a bad thing.  I'd love to see the idea spread to other designers.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: phantom1412 on January 24, 2012, 05:00:52 AM
on the pic next to this the deck is covering a card it looks like it has somthing dark and bllack on it that might be cool ^^

Do you mean the card next to the signed card?
I can't see anything.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Evan on January 24, 2012, 06:37:20 AM
I really hope theres an uncut sheet left when I have the money for it. I love this deck and would really like to frame it on my wall
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Don Boyer on January 24, 2012, 09:17:04 AM
I think that's a QR code... Ad card? Or maybe smartphone reveal?


I took a look - I don't see any QR code anywhere.  Can you get a zoom on the pic?
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Paul Carpenter on January 24, 2012, 09:27:16 AM
Doing an uncut with an included deck is a great idea and makes for a very attractive package. Compared to the normal uncut cost and the (high) cost of the Chinatown deck, that's actually a great deal.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: zaganh on January 24, 2012, 09:44:45 AM
on the pic next to this the deck is covering a card it looks like it has somthing dark and bllack on it that might be cool ^^

Do you mean the card next to the signed card?
I can't see anything.

this picture the second deck on the card looks like its covering the codetilt your screen so it lighter and in the shadow you can see somthing
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Don Boyer on January 24, 2012, 09:58:59 AM
My friend, and I mean this in the best possible way, but - you are seeing things!  I don't see anything looking like a QR code.  I see the printer's color marks at the sheet's edge, that's it.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: zaganh on January 24, 2012, 10:01:14 AM
My friend, and I mean this in the best possible way, but - you are seeing things!  I don't see anything looking like a QR code.  I see the printer's color marks at the sheet's edge, that's it.

haha not the edge of the sheet the shadow of the box on the right make your screen lighter and from the edge of the left side of the box the corner of a qr code
 
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: zaganh on January 24, 2012, 10:06:05 AM
i lightend it and put an arow in photoshop to show you




Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Don Boyer on January 24, 2012, 10:13:28 AM
OK, now THAT is a QR code...  :))  Could be a link to their website or something.  I wouldn't read much into it.  It's definitely on an ad card.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Evan on January 24, 2012, 02:52:42 PM
That QR code "will unlock..something at some point"
Thats what Brad Fulton said  ;D
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: dmbaggs on January 24, 2012, 10:40:44 PM
That QR code "will unlock..something at some point"
Thats what Brad Fulton said  ;D


hmmm... I wasn't going to pick up an uncut, but that might make it worth it.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Evan on January 24, 2012, 10:42:09 PM
That QR code "will unlock..something at some point"
Thats what Brad Fulton said  ;D


hmmm... I wasn't going to pick up an uncut, but that might make it worth it.
Or you can just get the deck :P
The same code is in the deck
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: dmbaggs on January 24, 2012, 10:46:37 PM
Really? It looked like it was on the white part of the uncut that would be cut away on the actual deck. Granted it's hard to tell from that picture.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Evan on January 24, 2012, 10:50:40 PM
This is what Brad Fulton tweeted, "Secret fact about the CHINATOWN DECK..it includes a QR Coded Card that will unlock..something at some point."
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: dmbaggs on January 24, 2012, 10:55:28 PM
This is what Brad Fulton tweeted, "Secret fact about the CHINATOWN DECK..it includes a QR Coded Card that will unlock..something at some point."


Oh thanks for clearing that up. I don't follow brad on twitter, so I wouldn't have seen that. If what it unlocks is worth while I think that makes the price more reasonable, but I guess we won't know that until we find out what that "unlockable" is. I think I'll end up getting two... maybe three of this deck now.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: phantom1412 on January 24, 2012, 11:49:07 PM
Thanks a lot for the pics.
I finally saw that.
Hmmm, they obviously used the idea of the tungsten deck here.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Don Boyer on January 25, 2012, 02:17:50 AM
I'm betting it'll lead to sneak peek photos of the THIRD Fulton's deck, when they're ready to release it...
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: dmbaggs on January 25, 2012, 02:20:32 AM
That it could be!


I think that we will see more QR codes used in decks and whatnot. Whether it be on the bottom of the box or on a card. The QR code as blown up in advertising and is spreading into other areas. I wouldn't be surprised if we start to see it a little more in decks/other magic products.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Don Boyer on January 25, 2012, 03:34:43 AM
That it could be!


I think that we will see more QR codes used in decks and whatnot. Whether it be on the bottom of the box or on a card. The QR code as blown up in advertising and is spreading into other areas. I wouldn't be surprised if we start to see it a little more in decks/other magic products.

The more smartphones that end up in people's hands, the more QR codes you're going to see.  Interesting fact: they're designed with redundant information storage - a code can be significantly damaged and still be readable.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: dmbaggs on January 25, 2012, 03:42:41 AM
That it could be!


I think that we will see more QR codes used in decks and whatnot. Whether it be on the bottom of the box or on a card. The QR code as blown up in advertising and is spreading into other areas. I wouldn't be surprised if we start to see it a little more in decks/other magic products.

The more smartphones that end up in people's hands, the more QR codes you're going to see.  Interesting fact: they're designed with redundant information storage - a code can be significantly damaged and still be readable.


Yeah I actually did know that. I've also noticed it used a lot more in graffiti, which is very interesting. It's probably the biggest change in the latest history of graffiti. We've seen tagging, murals, slaps, and now QR codes. I've been studying graffiti art and have many books and movies on the subject and this is one that isn't covered in detail... yet.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: moonexe on January 25, 2012, 03:50:36 AM
QR codes in graffiti? Now that's interesting! I'll be sure to research that a bit. ;)

@Phantom, I don't think the Tungstene deck has anything to do with it. Tungstene used it as a design element, while in this case it's simply used the way it was intended to, and is only one of countless other examples.

I'm actually quite interested to see what it will lead to.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: dmbaggs on January 25, 2012, 03:57:49 AM
I know this is off topic but allow me to add one more comment... haha


@Moon yeah check it out online. One of my favorite artists (space invader) has been known to use it, especially since it fits so well with his style. There isn't A TON of information on it but there is a good amount. Enough to get one started. I've seen more and more of the codes in the tags and stuff around my city. It's awesome stuff.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: LauR on January 25, 2012, 05:34:04 AM
The Fulton decks were quite a disappointment, and this dragon deck is only special because it was CNY and the year of the dragon. I do not see how this series will be able to survive.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: phantom1412 on January 25, 2012, 09:32:12 AM
I think this Fulton's series will be a little weird, because the red one will be more rare than the black one, and who knows about the next one? Maybe it could be another big limited print run deck.

Personally, I like the Clip Joint more than the Chinatown deck.
I really love the pips and the theme of the deck.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: dmbaggs on January 25, 2012, 01:12:53 PM
I think this Fulton's series will be a little weird, because the red one will be more rare than the black one, and who knows about the next one? Maybe it could be another big limited print run deck.

Personally, I like the Clip Joint more than the Chinatown deck.
I really love the pips and the theme of the deck.


Yeah I agree that it is strange that it is uniform in the number of decks. I think this "series" is a little different though because it isn't like the Smoke and Mirrors series where you had the same deck in different colors. This is more of a story per say.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Don Boyer on January 25, 2012, 10:32:01 PM
I think this Fulton's series will be a little weird, because the red one will be more rare than the black one, and who knows about the next one? Maybe it could be another big limited print run deck.

Personally, I like the Clip Joint more than the Chinatown deck.
I really love the pips and the theme of the deck.


Yeah I agree that it is strange that it is uniform in the number of decks. I think this "series" is a little different though because it isn't like the Smoke and Mirrors series where you had the same deck in different colors. This is more of a story per say.


Color changes only held true for the last three S&M decks.  The first three sets were black and white with design variances.


I like the idea of a series that's more like what Karnival developed into, meaning that the decks aren't nearly identical from one model to the next.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: KPopFever605 on January 26, 2012, 12:57:53 AM
If the Clip Joints had the Chinatown  back, but slightly tweaked, I would buy it in a heartbeat. To me, I love the faces of the Clip Joints, but the lack of color isn't doing it for me.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Lushbob on January 26, 2012, 11:12:21 AM
If the Clip Joints had the Chinatown  back, but slightly tweaked, I would buy it in a heartbeat. To me, I love the faces of the Clip Joints, but the lack of color isn't doing it for me.
Yeah, I agree about the colour. But, I guess that's what they were going for, right? A black and white silent movie sort of deck?
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: shutupdangit on January 28, 2012, 05:08:52 PM
I got my decks today, the QR code leads to www.dananddave.com/chinatown which has nothing on the page.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Evan on January 28, 2012, 05:45:17 PM
I got my decks today, the QR code leads to www.dananddave.com/chinatown which has nothing on the page.
They said it will eventually lead to something
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: phantom1412 on January 28, 2012, 11:48:08 PM
Why they just lead us to the page that we already know?
That's kinda let down.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Evan on January 28, 2012, 11:55:43 PM
Why they just lead us to the page that we already know?
That's kinda let down.
Did you even click the link? Its not a page that we already knew
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: phantom1412 on January 29, 2012, 12:12:54 AM
Why they just lead us to the page that we already know?
That's kinda let down.
Did you even click the link? Its not a page that we already knew

Sorry, I didn't. I saw the url and I thought it was the same as what the page we bought it from.
Thanks for telling me. I would have missed this.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: dmbaggs on January 29, 2012, 01:28:17 AM
Yeah all in good time! Eventually it will lead to something. That's one of the only things bringing me back to the thought of buying this deck haha

Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Atheosile on February 01, 2012, 10:16:52 PM
Just for a quick update the Chinatown Uncut sheet is now Out of Stock. Congrats to those who purchased them :)
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Evan on February 01, 2012, 10:26:55 PM
Of course, the one thing that I don't have the money to buy, sells out!
I was really hoping to get one but I guess not  :(
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: dmbaggs on February 01, 2012, 11:01:22 PM
Of course, the one thing that I don't have the money to buy, sells out!
I was really hoping to get one but I guess not  :(

You cant win them all  :P

How do you get the money to buy all those cards??
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: chdmagicdude on February 02, 2012, 03:39:49 AM
i got one did any buddy on the forms get or was it just me?
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Atheosile on February 02, 2012, 07:15:12 AM
I purchased 2 of them.  ::)
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Evan on February 02, 2012, 08:58:35 AM
Of course, the one thing that I don't have the money to buy, sells out!
I was really hoping to get one but I guess not  :(

You cant win them all  :P

How do you get the money to buy all those cards??
From reselling sold out decks. And my parents pay me for doing chores
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: KPopFever605 on February 05, 2012, 01:46:38 PM
Unfortunately, this uncut sheet has sold out - lucky are those who had enough time to buy it!
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Evan on February 05, 2012, 04:16:10 PM
Unfortunately, this uncut sheet has sold out - lucky are those who had enough time to buy it!
Thanks for the repeated post :)


Anyways, Ive seen some pics of people who have the sheets and they look awesome!
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: KPopFever605 on February 05, 2012, 05:19:28 PM
Oh, sorry about that.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: xlacs on February 06, 2012, 09:41:08 AM
Shoots, I was planning to buy an uncut sheet. I was saving up money hoping they would still be some left over, I guess you never know what will sell out and what will not.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Don Boyer on February 06, 2012, 10:43:33 AM
I'm kind of surprised, considering that most people around here considered that deck one of D&D's laziest designs.  As far as I'm concerned, even if I was an uncut collector, I wouldn't touch the Chinatown uncut if you paid me to.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: sinsandman on February 06, 2012, 10:58:10 AM
What makes you say that Don? I would have loved to have one (as a collector) I have many uncuts...waiting until I move to get them all framed and hung. But, the CT uncut would have been a nice addition.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: NathanCanadas on February 06, 2012, 12:21:29 PM
Meh, I wasn't planning on getting one either.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: xZEROx on February 06, 2012, 01:41:57 PM
I'm kind of surprised, considering that most people around here considered that deck one of D&D's laziest designs.  As far as I'm concerned, even if I was an uncut collector, I wouldn't touch the Chinatown uncut if you paid me to.

That's a little harsh to say don't you think? I'm not sure "most" people actually considered this deck to be one of the laziest designs. I mean the V5 and V6 was merely a colour variation from V4, should you consider V4 as a new design apart from the three editions prior to itself.

I personally think it's a fancy deck, suited well and greatly timed for the Chinese New Year. Some may consider them sly as they target the Asian market to their profits, but it's just their strategy, there's nothing wrong with that.

Please, if you hate it that much, send me the money and I'll get myself one of those sheets.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: dmbaggs on February 06, 2012, 04:46:23 PM
I wouldn't call this lazy. There are so many other decks like this out there with just customized back, jokers, and AoS. I would love on these uncuts!
Title: Re: Dan and Dave Chinatown Uncut Sheet
Post by: Don Boyer on February 07, 2012, 01:21:44 AM
What makes you say that Don? I would have loved to have one (as a collector) I have many uncuts...waiting until I move to get them all framed and hung. But, the CT uncut would have been a nice addition.

I'm kind of surprised, considering that most people around here considered that deck one of D&D's laziest designs.  As far as I'm concerned, even if I was an uncut collector, I wouldn't touch the Chinatown uncut if you paid me to.

That's a little harsh to say don't you think? I'm not sure "most" people actually considered this deck to be one of the laziest designs. I mean the V5 and V6 was merely a colour variation from V4, should you consider V4 as a new design apart from the three editions prior to itself.

I personally think it's a fancy deck, suited well and greatly timed for the Chinese New Year. Some may consider them sly as they target the Asian market to their profits, but it's just their strategy, there's nothing wrong with that.

Please, if you hate it that much, send me the money and I'll get myself one of those sheets.

I wouldn't call this lazy. There are so many other decks like this out there with just customized back, jokers, and AoS. I would love on these uncuts!

OK, think back to the original Fulton's - the Clip Joint deck.  It had a cool '40s look, as if it was something out of film noir.  The spot cards all had that one distinctive pip, all the aces were done large as opposed to just the aces of spades, and the face cards, while generally the Bicycle standard, were recolored to fit the design of the deck.

Now, Chinatown, the new Fulton's deck - It has a fancy box, I'll give you that, but the color, not the red of red money envelopes as advertised, is more like orange.  Even in their own photos the tuck box looks much more red - kudos to the photographer, but boos to the designer.  There's plenty of gold foil in the box, but none on the cards.  (Monarchs did that - and they were largely not well received, also in part due to an overheated hype machine pushing them as the greatest cards since the dawn of time, while in reality they weren't all that exciting, more of an OK deck.)

The card back is done in the same orange, with a non-foil gold that's so close to the orange in color temperature and shade that they practically blend into each other unless seen under a bright light, while Fulton's Clip Joints were extremely clear in stark black and white.  So the back looks like a muddy mess most of the time.

Then the faces - the red on the cards is not just a shade of the orange-ish color on the box and the back.  It was the EXACT SHADE of the Vintage Plaid decks.  In fact, take a Vintage Plaid court card, strip away the yellowish background and change all the yellow to the non-metallic gold used on the Chinatown card back, and presto, you have the SAME EXACT LOOK of a Chinatown court card of the same value.  They could have used the same exact plates to make this deck, and only would have needed to change a little bit of ink!

I give them a few points for the pretty box.  But that's not the cards, that's the box.

I give them a few more points for a cool ace of spades.  I'm neutral on the jokers - some loved them, some hated them, but they fit the Fulton's theme in that the same was said about the similar jokers in the Clip Joint.

The back, if actually done in metallic gold, would have looked awesome and been worth several points, but in the muddy non-metallic gold, no, that's a point deduction.

The orangy color instead of a real red?  Points lost.  The fact that the faces are practically identical to another deck design in a different "product line" of decks?  Big points lost.  Seriously, they were released so close to each other, it's entirely possible they were part of the same print run with just a minor ink change.

This was rehashed to death in the topic on the deck itself, by me and others.  Check it out.