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Title: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: CBJ on January 06, 2012, 11:37:41 AM
Via Kete Moon

More info to follow


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Title: Re: Black Acorn Back
Post by: phantom1412 on January 06, 2012, 11:39:26 AM
Is this coming up on D&D site?
Title: Re: Black Acorn Back
Post by: Eyeball on January 06, 2012, 11:53:06 AM
Is this coming up on D&D site?


Yeah I'm wondering if this will be one of the 3 new releases?
Title: Re: Black Acorn Back
Post by: Don Boyer on January 06, 2012, 12:08:58 PM
Looks nice.  Bordered?  Or black to the bleed?
Title: Re: Black Acorn Back
Post by: Evan on January 06, 2012, 02:49:14 PM
I hate the designs like those with the circle on the ends. But I really like this one! Probably because I love black and white decks
Title: Re: Black Acorn Back
Post by: xela on January 06, 2012, 03:37:15 PM
More Erdnase/Acorn decks? Joy!

I'll pass.
Title: Re: Black Acorn Back
Post by: moonexe on January 06, 2012, 04:20:37 PM
CARC decks, with the exception of the Ask Alexander one, all look the same to me... Did I miss something? :-\

http://conjuringarts.org/store/merchandise/erdnase-1902-acorn-green-special-edition-sold-out/ (http://conjuringarts.org/store/merchandise/erdnase-1902-acorn-green-special-edition-sold-out/)
Here's the same deck in green.

http://conjuringarts.org/store/merchandise/sold-out-new-erdnase-1902-bee-playing-cards-green-acorn-back-members-only/ (http://conjuringarts.org/store/merchandise/sold-out-new-erdnase-1902-bee-playing-cards-green-acorn-back-members-only/)
And what seems to be the exact same as above, except it is for members only.

http://conjuringarts.org/store/merchandise/sold-outnew-erdnase-1902-bee-playing-cards-red-acorn-back-members-only/ (http://conjuringarts.org/store/merchandise/sold-outnew-erdnase-1902-bee-playing-cards-red-acorn-back-members-only/)
Same deck in red and gold.

And then there's al the borderless ones that are just the accorn pattern without the logos. Black, green, white... Whatever, they're all the same.
Title: Re: Black Acorn Back
Post by: Jin Jian on January 06, 2012, 09:11:53 PM
nice back design i really like it ... this is the coolest back design all the other
Title: Re: Black Acorn Back
Post by: Don Boyer on January 07, 2012, 01:09:13 AM
CARC decks, with the exception of the Ask Alexander one, all look the same to me... Did I miss something? :-\

http://conjuringarts.org/store/merchandise/erdnase-1902-acorn-green-special-edition-sold-out/ (http://conjuringarts.org/store/merchandise/erdnase-1902-acorn-green-special-edition-sold-out/)
Here's the same deck in green.

http://conjuringarts.org/store/merchandise/sold-out-new-erdnase-1902-bee-playing-cards-green-acorn-back-members-only/ (http://conjuringarts.org/store/merchandise/sold-out-new-erdnase-1902-bee-playing-cards-green-acorn-back-members-only/)
And what seems to be the exact same as above, except it is for members only.

http://conjuringarts.org/store/merchandise/sold-outnew-erdnase-1902-bee-playing-cards-red-acorn-back-members-only/ (http://conjuringarts.org/store/merchandise/sold-outnew-erdnase-1902-bee-playing-cards-red-acorn-back-members-only/)
Same deck in red and gold.

And then there's al the borderless ones that are just the accorn pattern without the logos. Black, green, white... Whatever, they're all the same.

I know what you're talking about - after a while they all start blending together...  And don't get me started on how these blasted things come in two finishes!
Title: Re: Black Acorn Back
Post by: Evan on January 19, 2012, 11:23:54 PM
now available!
http://conjuringarts.org/store/merchandise/new-erdnase-1902-black-and-silver-acorn-back-playing-cards/
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: Kanped on January 20, 2012, 04:09:17 AM
I might get it if a UK retailer gets it in stock.  If not... well, you know I do collect Bee cards and I'm guessing this one will have a different box colour to any of the ones I've got, so I would like one but not right now.
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: john on January 21, 2012, 05:14:37 PM
Few things to note with this deck:

The "ad" wasn't supposed to go up and went up by mistake. The real release is in a few weeks.

This deck will be on both cambric and ivory *like all others  ::)*

If you buy a brick you will also get a special deck that can only be received from buying a brick.
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: munro159 on January 21, 2012, 09:01:12 PM
I bought 6 of these.  They didn't say anything about these having a Ivory or Cambric finish...although since the release was a mistake they could have simply not listed a choice between the 2 finishes.  Mine should be here Monday or Tuesday so we shall see.  I didn't get a chance to email them before they sent me shipping notification so maybe they made an educated guess and sent me 3 of each!
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: Don Boyer on January 22, 2012, 02:17:54 AM
Few things to note with this deck:

The "ad" wasn't supposed to go up and went up by mistake. The real release is in a few weeks.

This deck will be on both cambric and ivory *like all others  ::) *

If you buy a brick you will also get a special deck that can only be received from buying a brick.


Special deck of what?  Any word on it?
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: john on January 22, 2012, 08:18:51 AM
Few things to note with this deck:

The "ad" wasn't supposed to go up and went up by mistake. The real release is in a few weeks.

This deck will be on both cambric and ivory *like all others  ::) *

If you buy a brick you will also get a special deck that can only be received from buying a brick.



Special deck of what?  Any word on it?

No not yet, I will keep everyone posted if/when i find out more information about it.
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: KPopFever605 on January 31, 2012, 01:50:39 AM
Has this deck been released yet? I couldn't find the link!
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: Don Boyer on January 31, 2012, 02:28:22 AM
The deck has just been released, in TWO versions - BUT it's only available to CARC members!

There's the standard black and silver version, available in cambric and ivory.

There's a LIMITED EDITION (aren't they all?) silver and black version as well - all-silver back with black images on it.  You only get it as a free gift - one per brick purchased - and it only comes in cambric.  Based on the hyperbole in the ad print, those will be gone long before this deck makes to to public release direct from CARC.  Expect those to go for a premium.

I've officially given up on even attempting to get caught up on the CARC/Erdnase decks.  It's insanity, man, insanity!

As seen on 52cartes.wordpress.com

http://conjuringarts.org/2012/01/new-erdnase-1902-black-and-silver-acorn-back-playing-cards/
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: moonexe on January 31, 2012, 02:48:32 AM
Heh, not really worth the hype IMO. I would've liked to get a few just because I don't own any other acorn backs, but that's about it.
I'm actually more interested in the older green diamond back Erdnase decks, which I might be getting soon along with a few other discontinued decks. If I do chose to go with that order over another one. ::)

Though if D&D manage to get some in stock, I might get one or two along with the book!
 
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: dmbaggs on January 31, 2012, 02:56:16 AM
I agree with Moon, it's not worth the hype. I just don't bother to keep up with these decks. I don't care much for the design and there are too many colors. I have a couple that I got in variety boxes or something, but I haven't ever purchased a deck of these from CARC. I'm sure they are nice decks, but not my cup of tea
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: Don Boyer on January 31, 2012, 03:01:48 AM
I own just a few decks, most of them NOT Erdnase, per se - EATCT, Ask Alex, Erdnaseum, etc.  I have one green Acorn back and an EATCT stripper from D&D.  It's not really a variety when it's a zillion color combos of about three different designs, all based on the theme of a magician no one outside of magic's ever heard of.

Moon: you think the Bucks'll carry this one?  I don't know if it will make it to D&D before selling out - certainly not the silver version.
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: moonexe on January 31, 2012, 05:36:13 AM
Of course not the silver ones, I meant the black ones. It all depends on how many are produced - do we have that information yet?

And even if they don't have those, they still have green ones in stock - they're all the same to me, whatever. ::)
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: CBJ on January 31, 2012, 09:34:03 AM
I really don't keep up with these decks.  I'm just not a fan

CBJ
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: Evan on January 31, 2012, 05:37:38 PM
52Cartes posted these awesome pics!

Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: dmbaggs on January 31, 2012, 05:39:43 PM
I do like that silver deck! I wouldn't mind having the black and the silver versions in my collection. I doubt that'll happen though, I'm not buying many decks because of some of the bigger releases coming up  :P
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: Evan on January 31, 2012, 05:59:28 PM
I like the silver deck too! Thats the first deck in the series of colors that I actually like! But I won't be buying it because of other decks :)
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: Don Boyer on February 01, 2012, 12:06:12 AM
Hey, I have to ask you guys a question here.

Would you EVER use one of these decks for a magic routine?

Think about it: pretty much ALL the CARC decks aside from the Bicycles & Ask Alex have the Erdnase theme going on.  They have his name, or his initials - or in one instance, come in a box designed to look like his book!  Many of them have little images on them - drawings of sleight of hand moves taken from his book!

I don't think I could ever pull a pack of these out for magic.  I mean, sure, the average spectator will never know what those things mean, but all it takes is for one person, that one in (name any high number) who gets curious enough to at least ask...

Now I definitely don't regret giving up on buying all these Erdnase decks.
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: Evan on February 01, 2012, 08:46:23 AM
Hey, I have to ask you guys a question here.

Would you EVER use one of these decks for a magic routine?

Think about it: pretty much ALL the CARC decks aside from the Bicycles & Ask Alex have the Erdnase theme going on.  They have his name, or his initials - or in one instance, come in a box designed to look like his book!  Many of them have little images on them - drawings of sleight of hand moves taken from his book!

I don't think I could ever pull a pack of these out for magic.  I mean, sure, the average spectator will never know what those things mean, but all it takes is for one person, that one in (name any high number) who gets curious enough to at least ask...

Now I definitely don't regret giving up on buying all these Erdnase decks.
thank you for saying that! Most of he time, I dont like a hack design with words on it which is why I dont like these. But I must say that the silver one is actually appealing
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: Don Boyer on February 01, 2012, 10:23:11 PM
Yeah - but I think the Vipers in this reversed pattern would be SO much cooler!
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: Evan on February 01, 2012, 10:28:01 PM
I wish they were selling the Silver Acorn backs! I love how they look!
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: VortexHead on February 04, 2012, 11:16:40 AM
Will any of the big ebay sellers get these in both versions? I dont have any intention of becoming a member of the site but I would like a couple, I don't have the past decks but I like these colours. Also if any ebay sellers do get them does anyone know of any prices? Cheers
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: Evan on February 04, 2012, 11:18:06 AM
Unless they're selling them now, we won't know the price. But if a seller has the Silver Acorn Backs, its going to be a bit pricey.
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: VortexHead on February 04, 2012, 11:47:27 AM
I've just read over at UC that bmpokerworld I think it was will be getting a small supply of silver's and some blacks, not sure of the prices though, cheers.
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: CBJ on February 04, 2012, 01:44:49 PM
Bmpoker has them both listed now.

Here are the reversed ones..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BEE-ERDNASE-SILVER-BLACK-ACORN-BACK-PLAYING-CARDS-LIMITED-EDITION-CAMBRIC-/250988071004?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a700e085c
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: Evan on February 04, 2012, 03:26:08 PM
I really wanted those silver ones but $50 is too much for me  :-[
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: dmbaggs on February 04, 2012, 03:29:39 PM
Yeah, $50 bucks isn't unreasonable, but I'm not going to get any. I'm sure there will be some who pay that much once you can't get them from CARC anymore.
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: john on February 04, 2012, 03:38:32 PM
I got my brick in today and i must say they are my favorite CARC decks up to this point. The ivory is stiff as you would expect. The cambric fans and feels much better in the hands then the previous CARC decks. Comprehensive written review coming soon.
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: anep21 on February 05, 2012, 08:41:29 AM
can anyone tell me about the difference between cambric and ivory finish? which one is better? thanks
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: Don Boyer on February 05, 2012, 10:04:02 AM
can anyone tell me about the difference between cambric and ivory finish? which one is better? thanks


Cambric - textured, like air cushion; a finish term usually reserved for Bee decks (much like how Linoid finish is usually reserved for describing Tally Ho decks).


Ivory - smooth, more like smooth Aladdins but not as good, and generally very stiff in Bee stock.  Again, the term is usually reserved for Bee decks, but it was used recently for the Professional Bicycle decks (also made by CARC with USPC, also made from Bee stock).

Better in this case is a relative term.  Most people like air cushion/textured, some go for smooth, some like both.  You have to try them to see if you like them.  The best example of a good-handling smooth deck would definitely be the smooth Aladdins.  Aviators, also smooth, are on par with standard Bicycles.

And as Alex mentioned recently, smooth and textured aspects of a deck's finish are actually in the stock, not the finish.  The paper comes either smooth or textured.
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: john on February 06, 2012, 05:51:21 PM
Hey guys got a bit more info for you straight from Bill Kalush.

"They are a little different. It's not the finish per se but the coating. Because these cards were printed using metallic ink we used the Magic coating instead of our standard. At Conjuring Arts we prefer the regular coating but these black acorns using the magic coating turned out really well."

So it turns out the cambric decks are really magic finish. That being say i will write my comprehensive review, expect to see it soon.
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: anhedonia on February 06, 2012, 10:27:06 PM
First deck of these I opened had a very off-centered Joker and one side of the back of the Q Clubs had a green smear. Is anyone else getting issues?
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: Don Boyer on February 07, 2012, 04:31:30 AM
Hey guys got a bit more info for you straight from Bill Kalush.

"They are a little different. It's not the finish per se but the coating. Because these cards were printed using metallic ink we used the Magic coating instead of our standard. At Conjuring Arts we prefer the regular coating but these black acorns using the magic coating turned out really well."

So it turns out the cambric decks are really magic finish. That being say i will write my comprehensive review, expect to see it soon.

Did he mean this in reference to only the cambric decks, or all of them?  Because that means this might just be the first smooth-finish deck to use Magic Finish!  Now I'm very curious...
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: moonexe on February 07, 2012, 04:44:55 AM
Yeah, I brought up the same thing about the smooth ones earlier on skype. From what John said, they are standard, but I don't know if he actually tested them out well enough since he mentioned he didn't like them as much. :P
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: john on February 07, 2012, 03:02:23 PM

Did he mean this in reference to only the cambric decks, or all of them?  Because that means this might just be the first smooth-finish deck to use Magic Finish!  Now I'm very curious...

From CARC
"Hi, John.  The coating is on both the ivory and embossed decks, but we don't plan on using it on future cards as it's not our preferred coating.  Sorry to disappoint, but glad you're pleased with the Acorns!"

I'll take that as a yes :).
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: Don Boyer on February 07, 2012, 11:46:28 PM

Did he mean this in reference to only the cambric decks, or all of them?  Because that means this might just be the first smooth-finish deck to use Magic Finish!  Now I'm very curious...

From CARC
"Hi, John.  The coating is on both the ivory and embossed decks, but we don't plan on using it on future cards as it's not our preferred coating.  Sorry to disappoint, but glad you're pleased with the Acorns!"

I'll take that as a yes :) .

OK, now I think I'm going to have to check this deck out.  Coin of the realm, wherefore art thou?
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: Don Boyer on February 17, 2012, 01:51:22 PM
Guys, I bought this deck.


The "Ivory" deck with the Magic Finish is - wow.  Stiff like a smooth deck often is, especially with the Bee stock, but the Magic Finish makes it so slick...


Alex, you HAVE to try out one of these decks.  It's impressive.
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: Gunshy1 on February 17, 2012, 04:04:11 PM
@don im my experience, as much as i love smooth finish decks, they tend to hold oil on the surface more so then other decks. have you noticed this at all? also, with the magic finish making them slick do they still cut and stay in packets well like other smooth finish decks?
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: Don Boyer on February 17, 2012, 11:39:31 PM
@don im my experience, as much as i love smooth finish decks, they tend to hold oil on the surface more so then other decks. have you noticed this at all? also, with the magic finish making them slick do they still cut and stay in packets well like other smooth finish decks?

Whoa, Tex!  Slow down...  I've had the deck open for maybe twenty-eight hours now, and I haven't used it for all twenty-eight of them!

I used them to shuffle, swing cut and play some solitaire and they felt superior to smooth-finish Aladdins, although as stiff as you would expect from Bee stock.  The feel was also superior to the ivory finish Pro Bicycles from CARC, which are also Bee stock.  Whether this will hold over time remains to be seen.  They slide off each other with extreme ease.

Beyond that, you'd have to get a cardist to review them.  Much as I'd like to be, I'm not one.

Additionally, I generally keep my hands clean when handling my cards and use a non-oily skin moisturizer.
Title: Re: Erdnase 1902 Black and Silver Acorn Back
Post by: K on February 18, 2012, 01:25:33 AM
I've gotten a black acorn cambric deck yesterday, does anyone find the cards a little flimsy..? Maybe the stock of these are really really soft, I can bend them without using much force.  :)  easy to do riffle shuffles