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Title: Dan and Dave or theory11?
Post by: awesomeness12 on December 28, 2011, 08:05:05 PM
I'm really starting to get into flourishing. There's 2 DVDs that Im thinking about getting-Genesis and The flourishing DVD from the trilogy by Dan and Dave . What are your opinions on these and which one is better? Would you guys recommend these?
Title: Re: Dan and Dave or theory11?
Post by: KPopFever605 on December 28, 2011, 08:25:33 PM
For me, it depends on what skill level you are at. Genesis teaches very basic and beginner material, while the Trilogy is more an advanced DVD. Teaching wise, I believe Genesis teaches better than the Trilogy. Genesis teaches over the shoulder with Andrei narrating. While in the Trilogy, D&D teaches from a face-to-face point of view and they do not speak at all, there's only subtitles. Good luck on your decision anyway. Hope that helped!
Title: Re: Dan and Dave or theory11?
Post by: xela on December 28, 2011, 10:59:10 PM
Genesis teaches far better than the Trilogy, but the moves are simpler (for the most part). Genesis was my first DVD and a lot of what I know is from that.

Still, the Trilogy offers some stuff that Genesis was lacking. If you're looking to learn some fans, none of those are in Genesis except a terrible tutorial for the Flower Fan and a few variations on thumb fans and the like. The Trilogy teaches the basic fans, like the Pressure Fan and the Carnahan Fan.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave or theory11?
Post by: Jin Jian on December 28, 2011, 11:04:14 PM
if you are a starter defintely go for genesis since it teaches more of basic moves .. but if you are quite good at flourshing go for trilogy
Title: Re: Dan and Dave or theory11?
Post by: Fallen_Angel_of_Luck on December 29, 2011, 09:33:35 AM
Genesis teaches far better than the Trilogy, but the moves are simpler (for the most part). Genesis was my first DVD and a lot of what I know is from that.

Still, the Trilogy offers some stuff that Genesis was lacking. If you're looking to learn some fans, none of those are in Genesis except a terrible tutorial for the Flower Fan and a few variations on thumb fans and the like. The Trilogy teaches the basic fans, like the Pressure Fan and the Carnahan Fan.

actually ive been wondering for quite a while alex but never got around to asking. did u used to mainly flourish or do magic? why did u get into cards?
Title: Re: Dan and Dave or theory11?
Post by: Evan on January 04, 2012, 10:56:41 PM
Genesis 1 is more for beginners and lower intermediates. Trilogy is really hard to learn if you are a beginner.
I tried Trilogy and it didn't work out well
Title: Re: Dan and Dave or theory11?
Post by: Overflight on January 07, 2012, 03:53:27 PM
I'm going though Genesis myself. Pretty great stuff. I watched a little bit of The Trilogy and went back to Genesis since it actually EXPLAINS things. I'll probably go back once I get better though.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave or theory11?
Post by: Evan on January 20, 2012, 02:06:45 AM
Trilogy is somewhat advanced and won't be easy at all for a beginner. Also, trilogy has no sound... just music.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave or theory11?
Post by: moonexe on January 20, 2012, 04:14:05 AM
I just got Genesis yesterday and watch some of it, the explanations are great and in-depth and there's a good amount of moves to keep you going for a while, definitely worth checking out. I'll be practicing some of the moves in the next few days. Andrei also explains a few important concepts of cardistry, which I found to be a really nice touch.
Title: Re: Dan and Dave or theory11?
Post by: KPopFever605 on January 20, 2012, 07:05:38 PM
I just got Genesis yesterday and watch some of it, the explanations are great and in-depth and there's a good amount of moves to keep you going for a while, definitely worth checking out. I'll be practicing some of the moves in the next few days. Andrei also explains a few important concepts of cardistry, which I found to be a really nice touch.

Yes! That's why I appreciate theory11 far better than D&D, as far as teaching methods go. I learned many things from Genesis easily, whereas from the Trilogy, I could barely learn much at all. The only advice provided in the Trilogy are captions as to where to place your fingers and where to place each packet. If I were searching to a great cardistry DVD, I'd completely go for Genesis. If v1 is too easy for you, pick up v2, it will be worth your while.