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Title: is it possible...
Post by: Gunshy1 on November 04, 2011, 04:27:49 PM
... to make the magic/performance finish into a smooth finish? I would think they could just not put the dimples into the card and just put the finish on making it a smooth finish, or is there WAY more to it then that?
Title: Re: is it possible...
Post by: xela on November 04, 2011, 07:08:47 PM
... to make the magic/performance finish into a smooth finish? I would think they could just not put the dimples into the card and just put the finish on making it a smooth finish, or is there WAY more to it then that?
Way ahead of you...
Title: Re: is it possible...
Post by: Gunshy1 on November 04, 2011, 08:15:06 PM
Way ahead of you...

good stuff. id love to have a sneak peak of that deck ;)
Title: Re: is it possible...
Post by: john on November 04, 2011, 08:50:15 PM
Way ahead of you...

As in it is going to be on the vortex, or it is in the making.
Title: Re: is it possible...
Post by: xela on November 04, 2011, 09:18:12 PM
As in it is going to be on the vortex, or it is in the making.

As in it's going to be something I toy with for future decks. The Vortex is Magic Finish with dimpling, that's not changing.
Title: Re: is it possible...
Post by: Kanped on November 04, 2011, 11:58:49 PM
Doesn't that BOM deck have something very similar to that?
Title: Re: is it possible...
Post by: 6insider9 on November 05, 2011, 12:27:09 AM
... to make the magic/performance finish into a smooth finish? I would think they could just not put the dimples into the card and just put the finish on making it a smooth finish, or is there WAY more to it then that?

Yes its possible, But if you take away the embossing "Air Cushion", the cards will feel cheap and not have the slippery slide. No embossing = more friction = less slide
Title: Re: is it possible...
Post by: Curt on November 05, 2011, 12:38:33 AM
Yes its possible, But if you take away the embossing "Air Cushion", the cards will feel cheap and not have the slippery slide. No embossing = more friction = less slide

Unless there is a coating that would produce a lower coefficient of friction than the one currently being used, then it could conceivably create the same amount of friction as the "Air Cushion". I know its probably unlikely, but just trying to think of different ideas.
Title: Re: is it possible...
Post by: 6insider9 on November 05, 2011, 12:45:23 AM
Unless there is a coating that would produce a lower coefficient of friction than the one currently being used, then it could conceivably create the same amount of friction as the "Air Cushion". I know its probably unlikely, but just trying to think of different ideas.

This would be interesting if it could be done. But would people be able to get over the dramatic feel difference?
Title: Re: is it possible...
Post by: xela on November 05, 2011, 01:31:49 AM
I want to experiment with the USPCC smooth finish options because of how amazing smooth finish decks are for cuts.

It will be interesting to see what comes of this. :)
Title: Re: is it possible...
Post by: Gunshy1 on November 05, 2011, 05:05:55 AM
I want to experiment with the USPCC smooth finish options because of how amazing smooth finish decks are for cuts.

It will be interesting to see what comes of this. :)

that is exactly why i asked this question. i love the Michel Herp style of cardistry with lots of cuts and very few fans, and sometimes the performance finish can be to slick.
Title: Re: is it possible...
Post by: xela on November 05, 2011, 03:44:37 PM
that is exactly why i asked this question. i love the Michel Herp style of cardistry with lots of cuts and very few fans, and sometimes the performance finish can be to slick.

Any dimpling is definitely too slick, although right now I'm handling the Prototype decks with no finish and only air cushioning and although the fans are slightly clumpy, I've never handled a better deck for cuts.

Title: Re: is it possible...
Post by: Gunshy1 on November 05, 2011, 04:24:16 PM
who needs thumb or finger fans when you can pressure fan the cards. looks good and is way more fun to do.
Title: Re: is it possible...
Post by: sinsandman on November 06, 2011, 06:48:22 PM
Lance is also planning on some huge steps into the future with regards to stock and finish. This is good to read that we are moving forward as opposed to staying with what we know and are comfortable with.
Title: Re: is it possible...
Post by: xela on November 06, 2011, 07:10:23 PM
who needs thumb or finger fans when you can pressure fan the cards. looks good and is way more fun to do.
Try pressure fanning prototype stock and get back to me, darn things are as stiff as steel.
Title: Re: is it possible...
Post by: sinsandman on November 07, 2011, 05:27:03 AM
You're not kidding there. I have tried handling a proto deck...it didn't go well and I just ended up getting frustrated.
Title: Re: is it possible...
Post by: loldudex2 on November 07, 2011, 02:09:06 PM
You're not kidding there. I have tried handling a proto deck...it didn't go well and I just ended up getting frustrated.

What proto deck have you handled?
Title: Re: is it possible...
Post by: Kanped on November 07, 2011, 02:13:12 PM
What proto deck have you handled?

Umm... probably the Vortex proto deck.
Title: Re: is it possible...
Post by: loldudex2 on November 07, 2011, 03:25:45 PM
Umm... probably the Vortex proto deck.

I doubt Brandon has the Vortex prototype deck.
Title: Re: is it possible...
Post by: Kanped on November 07, 2011, 03:33:04 PM
I doubt Brandon has the Vortex prototype deck.

Oh, i thought you meant Alex :/