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Don Boyer · « **Reply #25 on:** February 15, 2012, 01:00:40 AM »

All I'll say is that everyone knows my feelings about his clip-art lazy-design decks and the pricing tactics he employs to sell them. I buy other stuff from him since he does have good prices on them, but never a deck he designed.

xZEROx · « **Reply #26 on:** February 15, 2012, 01:15:58 AM »

Quote from: Don Boyer on February 15, 2012, 01:00:40 AM

All I'll say is that everyone knows my feelings about his clip-art lazy-design decks and the pricing tactics he employs to sell them. I buy other stuff from him since he does have good prices on them, but never a deck he designed.

You're right. But as a collector I'll probably pick them up sooner or later. Probably when they're at $8 a piece or less. But he does have some insanely good prices for a lot of the other decks. I'm not sure how he manages to gain profits selling them. For those of you who don't know, check his website too, alongside with his eBay store. Sometimes he's got cheaper goods on one, sometimes on the other.

Kanped · « **Reply #27 on:** February 15, 2012, 04:34:29 AM »

These decks will continue to go down in value, in contrast to every other deck on the market. They're essentially worthless. They're definitely worth less than standard Bikes i.e. you should never pay more than $2 for them.

phantom1412 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 15, 2012, 07:56:22 AM »

Quote from: hazofhorsham on February 14, 2012, 09:54:21 PM

Errrm... Nathan at the moment these are £50 a deck at the current exchange rate thats $75 a deck... or $300 a set. You really wanna buy these at that price? Or you could get a variety box, a couple gold arcanes, a hell of a lot of stuff from E, just about any deck you want, etc, etc.

Give it a few months and they will have dropped down to $15 a deck, buy them then.

Really agree with you.
The price will drop soon. Don't be hurry if you really want these decks.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #29 on:** February 15, 2012, 11:05:27 AM »

Quote from: sxjy0109 on February 15, 2012, 01:15:58 AM

Quote from: Don Boyer on February 15, 2012, 01:00:40 AM
All I'll say is that everyone knows my feelings about his clip-art lazy-design decks and the pricing tactics he employs to sell them. I buy other stuff from him since he does have good prices on them, but never a deck he designed.

You're right. But as a collector I'll probably pick them up sooner or later. Probably when they're at $8 a piece or less. But he does have some insanely good prices for a lot of the other decks. I'm not sure how he manages to gain profits selling them. For those of you who don't know, check his website too, alongside with his eBay store. Sometimes he's got cheaper goods on one, sometimes on the other.

The selection on both sites is different as well. An item you want could be in one place but not the other.

hazofhorsham · « **Reply #30 on:** February 15, 2012, 04:54:25 PM »

These are avaliable :L I just figured you guys wouldnt care for the links - do you want them? :L

CBJ · « **Reply #31 on:** February 15, 2012, 04:59:35 PM »

Yes, post the links

hazofhorsham · « **Reply #32 on:** February 15, 2012, 05:13:37 PM »

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bicycle-Purple-Trace-Playing-Design/dp/B00770YG2Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&m=AJBKHBBQVXK53&s=generic&qid=1329343960&sr=1-3

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bicycle-Green-Trace-Playing-Design/dp/B00770XL5W/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&m=AJBKHBBQVXK53&s=generic&qid=1329343960&sr=1-4

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bicycle-Black-Playing-Nuclear-Design/dp/B007710FCI/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&m=AJBKHBBQVXK53&s=generic&qid=1329343960&sr=1-5

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bicycle-Yellow-Trace-Playing-Design/dp/B00770SZJE/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&m=AJBKHBBQVXK53&s=generic&qid=1329343960&sr=1-6

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #33 on:** February 15, 2012, 05:18:42 PM »

Quote from: hazofhorsham on February 15, 2012, 05:13:37 PM

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bicycle-Purple-Trace-Playing-Design/dp/B00770YG2Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&m=AJBKHBBQVXK53&s=generic&qid=1329343960&sr=1-3

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bicycle-Green-Trace-Playing-Design/dp/B00770XL5W/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&m=AJBKHBBQVXK53&s=generic&qid=1329343960&sr=1-4

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bicycle-Black-Playing-Nuclear-Design/dp/B007710FCI/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&m=AJBKHBBQVXK53&s=generic&qid=1329343960&sr=1-5

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bicycle-Yellow-Trace-Playing-Design/dp/B00770SZJE/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&m=AJBKHBBQVXK53&s=generic&qid=1329343960&sr=1-6

Wow! That's not cheap. With the current currency rate, that's almost 80$ a deck. 50$ seemed too much, but 80$... don't even talk about it!

hazofhorsham · « **Reply #34 on:** February 15, 2012, 05:43:39 PM »

I warned you that you were looking at $300 a set...

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #35 on:** February 15, 2012, 05:48:40 PM »

Quote from: hazofhorsham on February 15, 2012, 05:43:39 PM

I warned you that you were looking at $300 a set...

And I thought you were exaggerating!

xZEROx · « **Reply #36 on:** February 15, 2012, 05:52:05 PM »

Quote from: NathanCanadas on February 15, 2012, 05:48:40 PM

Quote from: hazofhorsham on February 15, 2012, 05:43:39 PM
I warned you that you were looking at $300 a set...
And I thought you were exaggerating!

Doesn't seem like it. merz is up for the profit again. He sold quite a few decks when the last 4 was at $50. Some collectors out there really don't know how to work around this guy do they...

hazofhorsham · « **Reply #37 on:** February 15, 2012, 06:13:45 PM »

Nathan out of curiosity how much would you pay for these?

John B. · « **Reply #38 on:** February 15, 2012, 08:26:22 PM »

Do not buy, it is not worth it, he took clip art and put it on a deck, even for collectors i would not buy, i would get bikes instead.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #39 on:** February 15, 2012, 08:52:25 PM »

Quote from: sxjy0109 on February 15, 2012, 05:52:05 PM

Quote from: NathanCanadas on February 15, 2012, 05:48:40 PM
Quote from: hazofhorsham on February 15, 2012, 05:43:39 PM
I warned you that you were looking at $300 a set...
And I thought you were exaggerating!

Doesn't seem like it. merz is up for the profit again. He sold quite a few decks when the last 4 was at $50. Some collectors out there really don't know how to work around this guy do they...

We all know what happens to fools and their money... I'm guessing he thought British collectors were more gullible somehow.

Kanped · « **Reply #40 on:** February 15, 2012, 09:07:11 PM »

Walk into a British store that sells cards and you may understand. Standard bikes are WAY better than anything we usually get.

hazofhorsham · « **Reply #41 on:** February 15, 2012, 09:18:18 PM »

We seem to only be able to get plastic coated cardboard over here :/

digipunk · « **Reply #42 on:** February 16, 2012, 04:32:59 PM »

Quote from: sxjy0109 on February 15, 2012, 01:15:58 AM

You're right. But as a collector I'll probably pick them up sooner or later. Probably when they're at $8 a piece or less.

They are limited and exclusive, once they are gone, they are gone. Get them before it's too late.

You can not deny the beauty of owning a piece of American Playing Card history (quoted from someone)

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Kanped · « **Reply #43 on:** February 16, 2012, 07:07:47 PM »

I'm not sure he sold ANY of the first run of 'trace' decks. They're certainly not popular and nobody seems to be desperate to get them. IMO, they're a massive flop.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #44 on:** February 17, 2012, 11:39:05 AM »

Quote from: Kanped on February 16, 2012, 07:07:47 PM

I'm not sure he sold ANY of the first run of 'trace' decks. They're certainly not popular and nobody seems to be desperate to get them. IMO, they're a massive flop.

I'm sure he roped in a few suckers with more cash than wisdom, but I doubt he made a return on his investment just yet.

dmbaggs · « **Reply #45 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:11:12 PM »

Quote from: Don Boyer on February 17, 2012, 11:39:05 AM

Quote from: Kanped on February 16, 2012, 07:07:47 PM
I'm not sure he sold ANY of the first run of 'trace' decks. They're certainly not popular and nobody seems to be desperate to get them. IMO, they're a massive flop.

I'm sure he roped in a few suckers with more cash than wisdom, but I doubt he made a return on his investment just yet.

Yeah that's true. I was thinking that Merz must be pretty wealthy to be able to make these runs of decks without any backers or whatnot. Either that or he has some people funding him or he just makes fat loans. All in all though that's a lot of money to spend on decks, without a great deal of assistance financially

Don Boyer · « **Reply #46 on:** February 17, 2012, 07:46:49 PM »

Quote from: brown_baggs on February 17, 2012, 02:11:12 PM

Quote from: Don Boyer on February 17, 2012, 11:39:05 AM
Quote from: Kanped on February 16, 2012, 07:07:47 PM
I'm not sure he sold ANY of the first run of 'trace' decks. They're certainly not popular and nobody seems to be desperate to get them. IMO, they're a massive flop.

I'm sure he roped in a few suckers with more cash than wisdom, but I doubt he made a return on his investment just yet.

Yeah that's true. I was thinking that Merz must be pretty wealthy to be able to make these runs of decks without any backers or whatnot. Either that or he has some people funding him or he just makes fat loans. All in all though that's a lot of money to spend on decks, without a great deal of assistance financially

Remember, he has a reasonably successful (by all appearances) web store and eBay business. It's not impossible to think he has the cash coming in to support his own deck projects, and as a past volume customer, USPC is probably working with him on his nearly-identical print runs. He's made over a dozen decks with them by now, getting to be near twenty.

phantom1412 · « **Reply #47 on:** February 17, 2012, 08:45:12 PM »

I just saw the america series of Merz decks sold in Japan and sold out!
6 decks for 170$, Couldn't believe it.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #48 on:** February 18, 2012, 12:00:44 AM »

Quote from: phantom1412 on February 17, 2012, 08:45:12 PM

I just saw the america series of Merz decks sold in Japan and sold out!
6 decks for 170$, Couldn't believe it.

The bigger question is: how many were available in Japan? A "sellout" is easy if you're only selling one set. All you need is one person to be convinced that it's worth that much or more to them. Poor, poor soul...

hazofhorsham · « **Reply #49 on:** February 18, 2012, 09:15:48 PM »

I feel bad for that... Considering he is selling else where at $15 a deck...
Hang on...
Trace v1 - 4 Decks
Trace v2 - 4 Decks
American Series - 6 Decks
Zebra - 1 deck
Tiedye - 1 deck...

16 decks... And I have probably missed a few... Thinking logically he must be right up their in terms of USPCC repeat customers...