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hazofhorsham · « **on:** February 14, 2012, 04:13:24 PM »

Now I am partial to Merz... I think he is a marketing genius. His decks aren't my favorite but for collections sake I have a few. They are quite easy to pick up as well since after about 6-8 months his price is like £9 in the uk. Also cos so many people dislike him you know he'll have them awhile - unlike D&D which in my opinion are almost as bad as him in terms of releases.

Anyway, just a heads up, he has released another four in the Trace Series. RRP atm is £50.

dmbaggs · « **Reply #1 on:** February 14, 2012, 04:20:46 PM »

Well no kidding! Do you know when/are there pictures? I haven't heard much about the trace decks but I've heard a great deal about Merz. I haven't picked up any of his decks but the trace decks I have seen look alright.

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #2 on:** February 14, 2012, 04:32:31 PM »

I don't have any merz decks. And I can't find any pictures. Can any one tell me if you think they are worth the price and post any pictures?

xZEROx · « **Reply #3 on:** February 14, 2012, 04:42:23 PM »

Here's the four traces deck he released last year:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-4-New-Rare-Trace-Decks-Blue-Red-Gold-Silver-Bicycle-Playing-Cards-/120829584862?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c220125de

Guess there're more of his clip art decks coming out. Yellow, green, orange and purple?

dmbaggs · « **Reply #4 on:** February 14, 2012, 04:48:43 PM »

The Blue Trace deck looks kind of cool, but the rest look like rubbish. Is that actually his art on the jokers?

xZEROx · « **Reply #5 on:** February 14, 2012, 04:49:50 PM »

Like I mentioned, it's all clip arts. Very easily obtained if you just search on google images.

dmbaggs · « **Reply #6 on:** February 14, 2012, 04:52:03 PM »

Quote from: sxjy0109 on February 14, 2012, 04:49:50 PM

Like I mentioned, it's all clip arts. Very easily obtained if you just search on google images.

Okay I wasn't sure if you were just mentioning the style haha. I figured there would be some legality issues but I guess not.

hazofhorsham · « **Reply #7 on:** February 14, 2012, 04:52:22 PM »

They aren't just colors... They have stupid names as well:
There is:
Bicycle Purple Trace Playing Cards Angel Devil DesignBicycle Yellow Trace Playing Cards Sun Moon DesignBicycle Black Trace Playing Cards Nuclear Bad Apple DesignBicycle Green Trace Playing Cards Alien Design

xZEROx · « **Reply #8 on:** February 14, 2012, 04:53:22 PM »

Meh I got three of the colour right.
Where did you get the information? And again, any pictures?

Paul Carpenter · « **Reply #9 on:** February 14, 2012, 04:55:50 PM »

That he gets $10 per deck, for that stuff, honestly makes me a little bit

Sigh. :'(

xZEROx · « **Reply #10 on:** February 14, 2012, 04:57:46 PM »

Oh how I wish they are $10 a piece. They were $40 to start with (I think it was $40...), and they're at around $13-$15 per as of right now. I can see it dropping to $9 in a few months though.

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #11 on:** February 14, 2012, 07:01:45 PM »

Can someone list all of his decks and put pictures and places where they are for sale? It would be greatly appreciated!

Evan · « **Reply #12 on:** February 14, 2012, 07:05:52 PM »

The worst part is that a lot of people buy that crap! They don't even know how unoriginal his designs are.

phantom1412 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 14, 2012, 07:28:11 PM »

Quote from: NathanCanadas on February 14, 2012, 07:01:45 PM

Can someone list all of his decks and put pictures and places where they are for sale? It would be greatly appreciated!

Here,
http://stores.ebay.com/Merz67

I don't know what he made, but it should be the things those are in his store only and not anywhere else.

Kanped · « **Reply #14 on:** February 14, 2012, 08:02:36 PM »

I don't think he's sold a great number of his own decks. He most definitely is not a 'marketing genius'.

Case in point, I'm pretty sure these are the same, unsold, trace decks from last time.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-4-New-Rare-Trace-Decks-Blue-Red-Gold-Silver-Bicycle-Playing-Cards-/120829584862?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c220125de#ht_1091wt_1272

hazofhorsham · « **Reply #15 on:** February 14, 2012, 09:21:50 PM »

It's a long term investment. A 5000 deck run costs him what, $15,000 if that? He releases them at $50 sells a few, then lowers them. People see them lower and buy thinking they are getting a bargain. If he sells his decks at no more that $8 a deck, he only needs to sell 2,000 to be in profit. Pretty smart - just annoying to those who appreciate design. I didn't mind his tiedye deck though-

Anyway pictures:

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #16 on:** February 14, 2012, 09:28:14 PM »

Quote from: hazofhorsham on February 14, 2012, 09:21:50 PM

It's a long term investment. A 5000 deck run costs him what, $15,000 if that? He releases them at $50 sells a few, then lowers them. People see them lower and buy thinking they are getting a bargain. If he sells his decks at no more that $8 a deck, he only needs to sell 2,000 to be in profit. Pretty smart - just annoying to those who appreciate design. I didn't mind his tiedye deck though-

Anyway pictures:

Would any one that owns these 4 trace decks be willing to sell them to me?

Kanped · « **Reply #17 on:** February 14, 2012, 09:50:31 PM »

Quote from: NathanCanadas on February 14, 2012, 09:28:14 PM

Would any one that owns these 4 trace decks be willing to sell them to me?

Yes, Merz will.

hazofhorsham · « **Reply #18 on:** February 14, 2012, 09:54:21 PM »

Errrm... Nathan at the moment these are £50 a deck at the current exchange rate thats $75 a deck... or $300 a set. You really wanna buy these at that price? Or you could get a variety box, a couple gold arcanes, a hell of a lot of stuff from E, just about any deck you want, etc, etc.

Give it a few months and they will have dropped down to $15 a deck, buy them then.

xZEROx · « **Reply #19 on:** February 14, 2012, 11:06:08 PM »

I wouldn't even get them at $15 a piece. The tie dye deck was also produced by merz a few years back, and they're now $9 per deck. That sounds a little bit more reasonable to me.

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #20 on:** February 14, 2012, 11:19:55 PM »

I found the red, blue, gold and silver ones for 50$ total with shipping, but I can't find these other 4. Which ones are newer. And how come these 4 cost so much?

dmbaggs · « **Reply #21 on:** February 14, 2012, 11:37:41 PM »

They cost that much because Merz priced them that high. The new ones I don't think can be purchased yet. I could be wrong on that though. Red, Gold, Blue, and White were the original four, I'm pretty sure. They really aren't worth what he is charging. For how little effort is put into the deck I would pick up something from E or T11 or even some riderbacks over these

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #22 on:** February 14, 2012, 11:45:50 PM »

Thx brown_baggs. But then, once again, where can I buy the newer 4 decks? (I just want to see, and I don't care how much or how little they cost!)

dmbaggs · « **Reply #23 on:** February 14, 2012, 11:50:08 PM »

Quote from: NathanCanadas on February 14, 2012, 11:45:50 PM

Thx brown_baggs. But then, once again, where can I buy the newer 4 decks? (I just want to see, and I don't care how much or how little they cost!)

Haz posted pictures of them in a post earlier in this thread which you can go back and look at. It just has pictures of the boxes. I'm sure that soon Merz will put out pictures of the Ace of Spades and Jokers for each deck. Like I said, they aren't available for purchase yet, but they will be soon.

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #24 on:** February 15, 2012, 12:46:31 AM »

Oh. I didn't understand that they weren't available yet! Thanks for the info! Looking forward to these, despite what others say!