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2 Baccarat Decks Intrigue Me
« on: July 24, 2019, 08:00:28 AM »
 

Bacarater

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Hi, does anyone have a link to where I can purchase these decks (issued mid- to late 1990s, I think, used in two films)?

Thank you!

https://ibb.co/HGsKcCy

https://ibb.co/hdctRL7
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Re: 2 Baccarat Decks Intrigue Me
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2019, 02:21:23 AM »
 

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Hi, does anyone have a link to where I can purchase these decks (issued mid- to late 1990s, I think, used in two films)?

Thank you!

https://ibb.co/HGsKcCy

https://ibb.co/hdctRL7

The first one's not technically a baccarat deck.  The face looks like a standard jumbo Arrco face, except for those little cameo images in the non-indexed corners.  If you had an image of the card back, that would help.

Not sure about the second one, though it's possible it's a Cartamundi deck - they do a lot of work in Europe as well as the rest of the world.  It's a reprinting of a much-older face, that I can tell - possibly Spanish in origin, due to how Julius Caesar's last name is spelled on the King of Diamonds.  Again, card backs go a long way toward helping with identification.
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Re: 2 Baccarat Decks Intrigue Me
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2019, 09:59:50 AM »
 

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Thanks so much for your helpful and thoughtful responses.

The back of the cards are absolutely blank, no markings or stylings at all.
 

Re: 2 Baccarat Decks Intrigue Me
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2019, 11:10:44 PM »
 

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Flesh tone queen of hearts appears to be a Fournier jumbo poker deck to me.
 

Re: 2 Baccarat Decks Intrigue Me
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2019, 03:20:48 AM »
 

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Hi, does anyone have a link to where I can purchase these decks (issued mid- to late 1990s, I think, used in two films)?

Thank you!

https://ibb.co/HGsKcCy

https://ibb.co/hdctRL7

The second one (from Goldeneye) looks like its from France Cartes, a subsidiary of Cartamundi. The deck is called "Jeu de Baccara". It comes with 52 cards, no jokers, Paris pattern, bridge size (58 x 89.3mm), the backs are not pure white but very pale blue or pink, no corner indices, and wrapped in cellophane but no tuck box. Casinos buy cards in bulk so the lack of boxes save time and money. The cards from Goldeneye have pale blue backs. The product number is 390034. I can't find where it's sold, it might be for casinos only.

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Re: 2 Baccarat Decks Intrigue Me
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2019, 08:37:38 AM »
 

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Both of you have also been more than helpful. I'm grateful!

Thank you!!
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Re: 2 Baccarat Decks Intrigue Me
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2019, 09:57:55 AM »
 

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If you're still interested, I found an online shop that sell's France Cartes baccara cards but they're in Italy: https://giochi.restaldi.com/it/prodotto/crt0099/carte-baccara-grimaud

I visited the room in Monte Carlo where that Goldeneye scene was shot last summer. It was very spacious. They did not offer Chemin de fer which Connery played in Dr. No but Punto Banco.
 

Re: 2 Baccarat Decks Intrigue Me
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2019, 09:22:09 AM »
 

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Am still very interested, but couldn't find a matching deck on that website.
 

Re: 2 Baccarat Decks Intrigue Me
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2019, 12:03:08 AM »
 

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You're right, the blue back is too dark, not even bright studio lights can account for the lighter backs. According to this image, the cards are from Piatnik: https://sites.google.com/site/tmwtgg/Home/goldeneye-playing-cards. However, they don't appear in my Piatnik catalogs so they are very likely out of print.

The closest I can find is this: https://www.amazon.it/Piatnik-1403-Baccara-Piccolo/dp/B000I0RWL2/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_it_IT=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91 but the dimensions don't seem right. This is Piatnik model number 1403 which I think is too small.

The one you should be looking for is Piatnik model 1404 (Baccara large): http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks06/d04594/d04594.htm
 

Re: 2 Baccarat Decks Intrigue Me
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2019, 08:34:04 AM »
 

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I have a Piatnik deck at home but the bands across the shoulders of the monarchs and etc. are incorrect.

https://i.imgur.com/JM0m5n8.jpg
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