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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: A. Ball & Bro
« on: March 16, 2022, 11:03:44 PM »
Great article! Annie was more of a pioneer than I realized.

Although I've gathered a lot of information on the Chicago gambling supply companies of the early 20th century, a detailed look at Annie Ball and other makers of the 19th century has been neglected.

Thanks for sharing!

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / A. Ball & Bro
« on: September 20, 2018, 09:59:57 PM »
My Faro deck made by A. Ball & Bro., Chicago, IL.  The company founder was Annie Ball who was listed as a playing card maker in various old city directories and censuses between 1890 and 1910. They distributed all kinds of gambling equipment but are most known for their Faro equipment. One of the rare women, or perhaps the only one in that era, in the gambling supply business.  The cards courts match the Samuel Hart courts and I assume were made by them.

My personal collection includes an almost complete Faro setup by Ball: a brass dealing box, a wooden card press that also acts as a case for the dealing box, these Faro cards, and a Faro case keeper (looks like a big rosewood abacus with images of cards on it).

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Ask the Experts at 52 Plus Joker
« on: September 07, 2018, 08:56:53 AM »
Jock1971, your deck looks higher grade than mine. Are they printed on coated stock? The corners are rounded. Wondering if my deck might have been made for the India market...and maybe more recent than the design would suggest. Much about these reminds me of the Belgian "Mogul" decks that can be found unused in original paper wrappers.

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Ask the Experts at 52 Plus Joker
« on: September 06, 2018, 09:26:27 PM »
Fantastic! I was expecting a less precise answer. Would I have found this in the Hargrave book if I had it yet?

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Help identify ca1900 European deck
« on: September 06, 2018, 01:02:55 AM »
Can anybody help identify this deck? Court cards are unremarkable, but maybe the 3-pip aces (far right) are typical of some maker in particular. They look like a three at first glance. These are crudely printed on very heavy brownish card stock.

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Some great options....should make this thread useful in the future.

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The mylar sleeves sound like what I'm looking for. I'll definitely check them out. I can still use the plastic boxes for anything without a tuck box. They should both work within the same bulk storage solution. Thanks very much for all the suggestions!

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Introduce Yourself / New member collecting vintage decks
« on: September 04, 2018, 09:43:44 PM »
Hi, I'm a new member but not a new collector. I've been collecting gambling related stuff for years. First it was vintage casino chips from the many underground casinos that were everywhere here in Chicago back in the 1930s and 40s. From there my collection grew to include anything related to the underground gambling in the area, including the many casino equipment distributors that made Chicago home. Crooked dice and other "gaffed" gambling equipment, Faro equipment including old gaffed dealing boxes, are all things I am into. The desire to have some vintage cards to display in my antique dealing boxes got me started on vintage cards.

My card collecting is mostly limited to old faro decks and "serious" American decks from 1965 or earlier. Also on the lookout for pre-1900 European decks, especially the simpler styles that look like they'd be at home in a smoke-filled room. I find the idea of designing decks intriguing, but I have no interest in collecting anyone else's custom decks. This is horribly hypocritical of me, I know. Sorry!

I've already learned a lot just by lurking here for a while, and hope to learn much more by actively participating.

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They're beautiful. They would be great for displaying a few special decks...and the price seems very reasonable for what they are. Not quite what I'm looking for every deck needing extra protection in bulk storage.

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Will Roya's boxes sound like what I'm looking for.  I have some old faro decks stored in a vintage card press. I think keeping them in the press causes ink to transfer from fronts to backs. Now that I'm starting to accumulate some "modern" decks with tuck boxes and tax stamps, I'd like a new storage option that works for everything. This sounds like a good start.

Some kind of flexible 3D sleeve that would fit over a tuck box would be perfect, but sounds like nobody offers one. Maybe I should get busy and make a batch!

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This is my first post here, so please excuse if I haven't chosen the best sub forum.

I've seen a lot of suggestions for bulk storage of decks. Any suggestions for protection of individual decks, such as when 100 year old tuck boxes and tax stamps might be prone to damage in bulk storage? What about very old sharp corner decks that have no tuck box? The "carat case" seems a little big for storage, although it looks like a great display option. Found some polyethylene clam shell boxes on a card supply sight but not sure about the clarity.

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