Call me crazy, but I don't think that was a floor-used deck.

Things like calendars and lists of poker hands and their ranks were not common for floor decks, but we're common for souvenir decks.

Again, someone correct me if I am wrong.

Don, I'm sure you are right - these cards are definetely from casino gift set! I've got several similar 2-decks souvenir sets from different Vegas casinos, but this one is extremely rare. Probably these were produced only once.

What did you mean by "proclivity"?  Proclivity to what?  Proclivity is roughly synonymous to "tendency", as in a tendency to do something, behave a certain way, have some unexpected effect, etc.

The most noteworthy reason why Theory11 started selling the brown Wynn decks in the first place was that some cardists noticed that the cards had better handling - oddly enough, better than the other colors of the same series.  Theory11 ran out of them perhaps about two years ago, giving away the last of them during a Holiday Season purchase-based giveaway - I believe it was that if you bought at least $75 worth of merchandise with at least one shippable item, you got the Brown Wynn deck for free; other decks were available at higher purchase points while supplies lasted.

We probably have more information about it in our posts from that time period - we often run special threads just for the period between Black Friday and early January.

All in all, some excellent work, iDoctor!

Don, thank you very much for your appreciation and sorry for my poor English. It's not my native tongue and I really have difficulties in choosing of a correct words.

I was trying to say that the Icon decks became popular among Wynn Casino visitors and card collectors and had a tendency to go outside of the Casino into public hands. The Wynn Casino was not happy that so many of their "floor-used" decks had got into public hands - that was the main reason why these cards were recalled and why we could find a lot of them uncancelled.

I've just ordered mine. Thank you very much, Tom and 52 Plus Joker Club!!

The third - Encore type of decks - is the rarest of Wynns. This deck was created to commemorate the opening of the Encore, the Wynn's sister casino. They were made with the Wynn's 'W' icon, but diamond-backed again.

They were originally to be used in both Wynn’s casinos, but the cards could not be used at all. Why? Because the 'W' icon had been mistakenly placed in the middle of the deck, creating a one-way design.

Hence the second, funny name of this rare misprinted deck is "Oh Crap, we didn't think of that".

After some hesitations I've finally decided to write a post about one more wellknown casino cards. Brown Wynns. eBay is crowded with buy- and sell-offers of “Brown Wynns – the famous Theory11 Cards”. As mentioned on Theory11 website: “Brown Wynns … the next Jerry's Nuggets - or the closest thing to 'em.”

But – there is no Theory11 logo of any kind to be found on this deck. Why? It's not a deck created or produced by Theory11.

There were three different types of Bee Wynns in existence: Signature, Icon and Encore. They were available in a dozen of different variations of types, colors and indices (I've got 9 of them in my collection).

The most common ones were Signature Wynn cards (sometimes called Scrypt). They have the word 'Wynn' written on them, and are available in Red, Blue and BROWN. They were used on the gambling table at the Wynn's casino in Las Vegas. They are very standard Bee Casino diamond-baked cards, nothing interesting.

Sparkz, the spreadsheet is really cool. Even too detailed for me at the moment..
These days I've spent all my free time adding my collection in the PlayingCardDB and trying to do something good for the DataBase itself. As this work is more or less completed, I'm going to investigate your spreadsheet. Thanks!

Thank you, Don.
To appreciate this let me show one very specific deck from my collection. It's Dunes 1st run (Bee, 1965, but after June 22). This deck is rare as it is, but this one is especially rare. Usually the color of the box and color of the cards inside were the same (either blue or red). But this deck was mixed during the production. The box is red, but all cards are blue (excepting 3 red cards). It has come mixed from the producer. Hope, you guys like it 

The only one idea cames to me. As this deck is wrapped in individual transparent cello, it might be a part of a 2-decks gift set. Similar sets were in use at that days in Vegas casinos, including Silver Slipper (their set had blue and green cards) and MGM Grand (brown and gold cards). All these cards were individually wrapped in cello and had a common paper box for 2 decks (sample photo attached).

Hey iDoctor, maybe you might want to check on your attached files? It seems to no work for me. Yup I too think that the borderless green GN is from a 2-decks gift set as I have quite a couple of casino gift sets myself. Namely the MGM, Sahara (3rd ed?), Frontiers (4 boxes of One way back, still finding the Two way back design) and Dunes.

I am definitely interested in looking at what's inside the purp Carson City Nugget deck. Please try to re-upload the photos again 

And also its been my pleasure too to know vintage casino cards collectors like you because comparing vintage card collectors and modern cards collectors, vintage collectors are really little.

Cheers,
sliverboi
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Hi, Silverboi
It's done (I've reduced photo file sizes), hope everithing is Ok now. I've also sent you photo via mail to be sure.
Yours, iDoctor

P.S. I've found one purple GN sold on eBay in 2012 ($649). Photo attached.

Quote from: fredv on September 16, 2014, 08:22:18 AM

Jerry's Nugget, for example, are quite easy : two colors, one year of production. Period.
Most of other Vegas Casinos 70's cards are like that .. Only Golden Nugget have more than 6 colors and years

Hey iDoctor, I initially thought you are River Tsai because of the display picture you are using, as that photo was taken by him. Maybe can try seeking River Tsai's help when it comes to Vintage Casino Cards because he is very knowledgeable and have a wide range of decks (I used to ask him alot to understand more of Vintage Cards).

Hi, Silverboi,
Thank you for your post. I'm really quite charmed by vintage Vegas cards and I'm on a long way of collecting them. My avatar (you were absolutely right, taken from River Tsai) shows my key interest. Unfortunately I have no contact with him and will be glad to get it, if possible.
Always yours, iDoctor

P.S. First GN generation had purple?? Please, PM me photos if you have..

Fantastic topic! Thanks you all, I've got a lot of ideas. I should waste my show boxes asap and make normal storage!

Fred,
First of all thank you for your work, it's very useful and looks nice. Hope you will have enough time to develop it further. As for my interest, I would say you much thanks if you info me about exact production's years of each generation of GNs. From my side I may help with some scans and images which are not presented there at presence (f/ex 2nd generation in brown or Hotel and Casino in red).
As for other vintage Vegas decks, you are absolutely right that they have less differences than GNs. At the same time, I'm sure for some of us it will be interesting and useful to have general database and forum in one place. Might be, it's my personal interest as vintage Vegas decks collector, but I hope not only mine.
P.S. For example, I couldn't find any info about exact years of printing of the purple (Arrco style) Carson Nugget's cards and other info about them. It seems to be between 1959 and 1965, but I'm not sure.

Not so late:)) I was online intime one week ago, but probably my inet connection was failed. When I came in, the sale had already finished. Anyway, it's gone. So it's just a sad story...