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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Congress Wrapper Transition Question
« on: January 08, 2020, 11:00:48 PM »
ok, I've added some "finds" to the list of decks with special stamps

Spring 1903
Toboggan 1903
The Hunt 1901

From John McKinnon's article in CTD covering Congress manufacture dates, the following decks were made in 1903/04:  I have annotated with those I've found special stamps for (Y) and those I've seen with a glassine wrapper without the special stamp (N).  We have work to do to complete the research!!

1903
Cavalier
Holland
Holly
Kaatje
Kite Time
Miss Demure
Mistletoe (Y)
Moorish
Naples
Spring (Y)
Tambourine
Toboggan (Y)
Yacht

1904
Aviation Meet (N)
Chink
Egyptian
Hunt (Y)
Into Cover
Kill
Lilly
Meet
Military (N)
Parisian
Run
Shower
Spanish (Y)
Summer
Violet

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Got my first Junior No. 21 decks.  No boxes or jokers, but you've got to start somewhere.
That is a great looking Ace of Spades!

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That stamp on the wrapper is phenomenal!!

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Congress Wrapper Transition Question
« on: December 01, 2019, 04:44:25 PM »
Toby, I have it on good authority that Mistletoe carried a similar "named" stamp on its wrapper.

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Thanks to Barb Lunaberg for helping us find this back.  Maker unknown but after the last one, now I suspect National.  One more to go....

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Here are two pages from a USPCC Catalog showing some of the backs you've already ID'd

....How does one get a hold of a USPCC catalog like this?! They're not readily for sale, right?

Best,

They come up on Ebay from time to time.  Be prepared to pay big bucks ($1k) as they are very poplular.

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Dave Seaney pointed me to WOPC which ID's this back as part of National Card Co's Crescent brand's "art series"

Anybody know any other backs from this series???

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That Crescent deck is amazing.

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: The National Card Company
« on: October 20, 2019, 12:59:20 PM »
Cool site!! I have at least one back not shown.  Can you PM me your email address?

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Ask the Experts at 52 Plus Joker
« on: October 14, 2019, 08:31:57 PM »
I believe the middle card with the gold border on the face is from Chas. Goodall.

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nice decks, wow!

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Congress 606 Chameleon - really liking this deck with its special named Joker.

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I love the lacquer backs from the late 1800s to the early 1900s.

I love the lacquer backs as well.

Beauties -  I love these!

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: ace of spades
« on: March 03, 2019, 08:37:42 PM »
western playing card company

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I believe photo 9 is this back, but I do not know the name....

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Toby,

A quick look on WWPCM yields this picture of a beautiful butterfly back with a similar theme.  It is under the indicator brand with the same Joker as yours.  Not sure if it is Oriental 91 or not.

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Andrew Dougherty Tudor Indicator Flower Backs
« on: January 05, 2019, 12:46:51 AM »
I am looking to assemble a comprehensive list of the wide flower backs produced by Dougherty as part of their Indicator product line.  Most, if not all, I have seen come in a "Tudor" box.  Some have the No. 50 Ace, some do not.  The CPCC catalog has identified most but not all variations.  I am wondering if there are more out there.

Apple Blossom (AP-2-1)
Carnation (Not Listed)
Chrysanthemum (CH-9-1)
Clematis (CL-2-1)
Clover (CL-1-1)
Dogwood (DO-1-1)
Iris (IR-1-1)
Jonquil (JO-1-1)
Lily of the Valley (Not Listed)
Poppy (PO-1-1)
Rose (RO-3-2)
Thistle (TH-1-1)
Tulip (TU-1-1)

I have pictured the two unlisted backs.  Any help here would be appreciated!!

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Great to see the named Joker and I love that orange back!

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Another lacquer back - can't get enough of these!  Dundreary joker with flesh tones.

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A Cellar of Fine Vintages / Re: Congress Wrapper Transition Question
« on: December 16, 2018, 12:30:07 PM »
No help here, but thank you for the pictures and info.  I will keep an eye out.

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Outstanding, thanks for sharing Toby.  I've always wondered what an original deck of this back design looked like.

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Found evidence of one more non-pictorial back

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Was able to verify these two by looking at old sales history on various sites

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Hi Toby, I cannot independently vouch for the accuracy of the information, but the page on the WWPCM has several additional back designs associated with this brand.

http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks03/d01193/d01193.htm

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