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Evan · « **on:** August 29, 2012, 07:38:00 PM »

Release Date: August 31st, 2012 at 11am EDT
Where: www.theory11.com

These are NOT LIMITED.

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #1 on:** August 29, 2012, 08:25:28 PM »

Wow. Theory11 are turning into new D&D, with color variations for Monarchs, Steampunks, JAQKs... I find it kind of ridiculous to have a fourth color in this series. Plus, how will the back design of the silver monarchs be any different from the normal ones? I'm guessing only the box will be different.

Paul Carpenter · « **Reply #2 on:** August 29, 2012, 08:47:42 PM »

As someone that puts 6+ months of design into a custom deck, these color changing guys are starting to annoy me.

Step 1: gain following making interesting cards
Step 2: stop innovating and just swap colors
Step 3: profit off the collectors!

Boo.

Noobmachine · « **Reply #3 on:** August 29, 2012, 09:41:09 PM »

I really hope this trend of re-colouring comes to an end, the market us just being flooded by these un-innovative decks. The White Monarchs looked good, these just look like a cheap attempt at sucking in more of our money.

Knobz1 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 29, 2012, 10:00:06 PM »

Definitely didn't see this one coming... $:-\$

Evan · « **Reply #5 on:** August 29, 2012, 10:19:23 PM »

These and the Rebels will be unlimited.

xela · « **Reply #6 on:** August 30, 2012, 12:10:14 AM »

Quote from: Encarded on August 29, 2012, 08:47:42 PM

As someone that puts 6+ months of design into a custom deck, these color changing guys are starting to annoy me.

Step 1: gain following making interesting cards
Step 2: stop innovating and just swap colors
Step 3: profit off the collectors!

Boo.

This.

I'm really glad I don't collect new releases anymore. This is just a big "fuck you" to everyone that actually puts time into their designs and gets 1/100th the profit T11 does.

jmrock · « **Reply #7 on:** August 30, 2012, 01:31:16 AM »

Love these... Although I understand the dissension, I've got to say that Monarchs were one of my favorite decks, and they kickstarted me collecting after many years... The white decks are just fantastic and the silver looks sick as well... Looking forward to these...

Joker and the Thief · « **Reply #8 on:** August 30, 2012, 03:04:25 AM »

I will need to see more images of this to make up my mind. I am hoping to God that they did not make the box like the silver steam punks. I just think they may just be killing off the already astounding deck. I didn't think the monarchs needed another addition and this was a suprise. Again, I will need to see pictures to make up my mind but still...

cosmicsecret · « **Reply #9 on:** August 30, 2012, 07:57:35 AM »

I admit the silver box will look great in the row with the standard/white monarchs.
If the cards inside are no different like the original monarchs...well just sent me the flat box in a envelope ;-)

K · « **Reply #10 on:** August 30, 2012, 08:18:53 AM »

Wonder just how much can they alter the monarchs, they're already beautiful as they are!

Cardist888 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 30, 2012, 01:26:27 PM »

Huh not bad another monarch deck

KPopFever605 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 30, 2012, 04:13:21 PM »

Quote from: Joker and the Thief on August 30, 2012, 03:04:25 AM

I am hoping to God that they did not make the box like the silver steam punks.

Chances are...and by the way they are looking, they will be

Quote from: NathanCanadas on August 29, 2012, 08:25:28 PM

Plus, how will the back design of the silver monarchs be any different from the normal ones?

I'm thinking that the back designs will have more patches of grey/black/silver/metallic colors.

dmbaggs · « **Reply #13 on:** August 30, 2012, 04:23:16 PM »

While I'm not a huge fan of the whole recoloring trend, I will still pick up a deck of these so that I can have the complete for versions of this deck. Hopefully they'll end it here though. The monarchs is an average deck and the recoloring is getting way old.

Siegismyname · « **Reply #14 on:** August 31, 2012, 11:29:13 AM »

Trailer is up but still no sign of them or exposé.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnvZ9nI-Q4Y&list=UUl1WwbVpKUdQerivZpUxZLA

Evan · « **Reply #15 on:** August 31, 2012, 02:37:19 PM »

In case you didn't find them, they're here: http://www.theory11.com/playingcards/silver-monarch-playing-cards

KPopFever605 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 31, 2012, 03:52:28 PM »

Meh...I'm not overly excited about them. In my opinion, the Gold and/or White Monarchs will still be the best of them all.

K · « **Reply #17 on:** September 01, 2012, 04:57:24 AM »

From what I see... seriously... just replacing the ink to black on white.... but we expected nothing more than that anyway...

Don Boyer · « **Reply #18 on:** September 01, 2012, 07:04:45 PM »

Quote from: K on September 01, 2012, 04:57:24 AM

From what I see... seriously... just replacing the ink to black on white.... but we expected nothing more than that anyway...

As I see it, there's a breakdown to this that makes sense.

Gold Monarchs: pre-release, super-limited, not really intended to be released. Gold on black.
Monarchs: white on navy blue, because the the gold didn't pop on the blacks, considered a disappointment by T11. Also hyped like the second coming of Christ, Mohammed and Buddha all rolled into one - a big letdown to customers. But in the end, considered a solid deck, well-made.
White Monarchs: rare release, limited, looks great. Gold on white.
Silver Monarchs: unlimited (presumably the Monarchs are as well), and offer a perfect compliment to the Monarchs as a readily-available two-deck COMMON set.

Decks that don't come in commonly-available pairs don't sell to poker players. Magicians can use them for awesome color changes as well without having to risk damaging a rare collectible deck. Collectors, well - no one is twisting arms to get you to buy them, and they are an unlimited release. I want some, but I'm waiting for my paycheck next week. It's also great for people who liked the aesthetic of the White deck but couldn't afford it or missed out on buying it.

DarrylDavis · « **Reply #19 on:** September 01, 2012, 08:55:40 PM »

Awesome view point Don! I feel like everyone has been overly whining about this, theory 11 did good by this. These are almost exactly the same cards as the white monarchs, and every one raved how wonderful and beautiful they were. Now these were made unlimited because of all the people who got pissed off about the white monarch release. Now for the people who wanted the white monarchs because they were beautiful and didn't just like then because they were rare can now own something extremely similar. But as it always seems everyone is always pissed off about something. If you're a designer and don't approve of just changing the color, I find it hard to believe that you wouldn't want to make a deck wonderful enough to
just be able to change the color and sell them , I mean think about it, not counting the gold monarch mess up (which really wasn't a release) there are three different colored monarchs, less then the amount of crown decks, and I really didn't hear anyone complaining about the "atrocity" that the blue crown cane out with blue ref and green crowns haha

Joker and the Thief · « **Reply #20 on:** September 01, 2012, 09:41:40 PM »

Quote from: DarrylDavis on September 01, 2012, 08:55:40 PM

Awesome view point Don! I feel like everyone has been overly whining about this, theory 11 did good by this. These are almost exactly the same cards as the white monarchs, and every one raved how wonderful and beautiful they were. Now these were made unlimited because of all the people who got pissed off about the white monarch release. Now for the people who wanted the white monarchs because they were beautiful and didn't just like then because they were rare can now own something extremely similar. But as it always seems everyone is always pissed off about something. If you're a designer and don't approve of just changing the color, I find it hard to believe that you wouldn't want to make a deck wonderful enough to
just be able to change the color and sell them , I mean think about it, not counting the gold monarch mess up (which really wasn't a release) there are three different colored monarchs, less then the amount of crown decks, and I really didn't hear anyone complaining about the "atrocity" that the blue crown cane out with blue ref and green crowns haha

Darryl, I agree with you completely and to be honest I find the colour changing of decks to be interesting and not annoying whatsoever. I was originally worried about the silver monarchs but now I think the are a great idea for the obvious reasons that Darryl stated. All in all if you like it get it.

chisairi · « **Reply #21 on:** September 01, 2012, 10:21:28 PM »

haters will always hate. just as simple as that. I personally don't see how T11 or any other company is wrong for doing color variations. it lower cost (no design cost or additional payroll) to make the the exact same amount of money as creating a new deck. the margin just got so much bigger. why not~ of course this is from a business point of view.

Aaron · « **Reply #22 on:** September 02, 2012, 01:43:37 AM »

they dont need to do 4 variations in about 10 months though, it is a little overboard.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #23 on:** September 02, 2012, 08:58:23 PM »

Quote from: Aaron on September 02, 2012, 01:43:37 AM

they dont need to do 4 variations in about 10 months though, it is a little overboard.

Of those variations, one was rarer than most and one was among the rarest of decks made. Only two are commonly available at reasonable cost and without having to race to the web just before a deadline and watch servers crash as you're trying to order...or pay a princely sum to an eBayer or aftermarket retailer. They are attractive, complement each other, are cheap and plentiful.

To the more casual collector, the working magician or to someone who (gasp) actually PLAYS with their cards, it's pretty sweet. No one in those categories will lose sleep over not having the rare versions.

Aaron · « **Reply #24 on:** September 03, 2012, 03:02:49 AM »

Quote from: Don Boyer on September 02, 2012, 08:58:23 PM

Quote from: Aaron on September 02, 2012, 01:43:37 AM
they dont need to do 4 variations in about 10 months though, it is a little overboard.

Of those variations, one was rarer than most and one was among the rarest of decks made. Only two are commonly available at reasonable cost and without having to race to the web just before a deadline and watch servers crash as you're trying to order...or pay a princely sum to an eBayer or aftermarket retailer. They are attractive, complement each other, are cheap and plentiful.

To the more casual collector, the working magician or to someone who (gasp) actually PLAYS with their cards, it's pretty sweet. No one in those categories will lose sleep over not having the rare versions.

I realize that but over that short of time it is a lot of decks on top of their other releases.

I also open most of my decks (ussually get 2 so one open one sealed) and when playing with the deck no the rarity makes no difference, but when you are a collector it does.