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Title: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Evan on November 14, 2011, 02:53:43 PM
Heres what Ellusionist posted on their FB page!
"There is a rumor that exists within the hallowed halls of Ellusionist. That somewhere within there exists a secret vault containing the mythical creations of Ellusionist. Those rare items that you didn't even know existed. The prototypes. The shadowbox. The uncut sheets. Original Artwork. First Editions. ...and an experiment. All of it speculation of course... But what if it did exist? What if you found your way inside? What treasures could you make off with? Perhaps you'll find out soon. Perhaps you'll be the one to crack... The Vault."

Soooo... Its kinda confusing to me but.... seems like ill have to be saving up some $$$
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: MrLukeCarroll on November 14, 2011, 04:50:56 PM
Seems to be a type of competition, sounds exciting some really nice items appear to be in the vault
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: john on November 14, 2011, 05:31:35 PM
Well it has been said before E does proto decks and uncut sheets, so that is obvious. I think it will be something having to do with the Christmas contest.
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: CBJ on November 14, 2011, 05:33:53 PM
I hope they have a Black Ghost 1st Edition uncut as one of the prizes... and I hope I win it!

CBJ
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: austin on November 14, 2011, 07:35:08 PM
Ohhh, wow sounds really cool. That would be awesome if it was real.
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Evan on November 14, 2011, 07:42:45 PM
Ohhh, wow sounds really cool. That would be awesome if it was real.
It is real lol
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: phantom1412 on November 14, 2011, 11:14:49 PM
Yeah, i think they would have all uncuts and protodeck of every decks they released.
Abd might be a lot colorful artifice protodeck!
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: austin on November 14, 2011, 11:21:04 PM
It is real lol
The vault is real! Wow, that's cool. I think i'll have to break in :)
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: loldudex2 on November 14, 2011, 11:24:59 PM
How about we sneak in tonight with a group of us, and break in to the vault, and raid it!
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Evan on November 14, 2011, 11:35:55 PM
How about we sneak in tonight with a group of us, and break in to the vault, and raid it!
Im in!  :D gotta be sneaky though  8)
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Don Boyer on November 15, 2011, 04:08:41 AM
If you've looked at their photos on Facebook as well as some of the cards in their gaff decks, there's a lot of interesting "prototype" stuff they have laying around - as would any design house.  Look at the "MultiMiller" Gargoyles Expo deck.  Sure, it's Gargoyles without the silver ink, but it's also printed on 100% plastic cards and in a short run only intended for distribution at a single design exposition.  I've seen early concept art for the Ghost Ace of Spades and the back of the Arcane deck that looked really cool.  It wouldn't surprise me if they took some of this booty and used it to stoke interest in their "Infinity Series" deck release.  (BTW: Infinity *is* the Christmas deck, right?  Or do they have something else in the pipeline as well?)
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: dmbaggs on November 15, 2011, 04:21:41 AM
If you've looked at their photos on Facebook as well as some of the cards in their gaff decks, there's a lot of interesting "prototype" stuff they have laying around - as would any design house.  Look at the "MultiMiller" Gargoyles Expo deck.  Sure, it's Gargoyles without the silver ink, but it's also printed on 100% plastic cards and in a short run only intended for distribution at a single design exposition.  I've seen early concept art for the Ghost Ace of Spades and the back of the Arcane deck that looked really cool.  It wouldn't surprise me if they took some of this booty and used it to stoke interest in their "Infinity Series" deck release.  (BTW: Infinity *is* the Christmas deck, right?  Or do they have something else in the pipeline as well?)

I'm pretty sure they have a separate "Christmas Deck" besides the Infinity Series Deck
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Kanped on November 15, 2011, 05:06:30 AM
Nobody just FTP scan their site and check all the folders they have there?  The vault's probably sitting in plain sight right there....
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: CBJ on November 15, 2011, 10:08:28 AM
Maybe they printed some of these prototypes at one point...

(http://payload.cargocollective.com/1/0/4408/121604/02_legacy_back_ace.jpg)

(http://payload.cargocollective.com/1/0/4408/121604/05_legend_back_ace.jpg)

(http://payload.cargocollective.com/1/0/4408/121604/06_concept_dev.jpg)

(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/04_king_joker.jpg)

CBJ
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: phantom1412 on November 15, 2011, 10:11:56 AM
What is that?
Awesomeeeeeeeeee.
They should really release it.
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Kanped on November 15, 2011, 12:47:11 PM
I had a look through every folder, link and resource on their website and couldn't find anything I couldn't access manually.  There was a couple of gifs; one reading 'Nice guess now try another one' or something like that and another reading 'Booya!' but they're in the same font as one asking you select 3 decks for your sample kit, so I'm guessing they're just now defunct buttons. 

Anyway, as far as I can tell they haven't uploaded anything to the site regarding this yet.
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Bulldozah on November 15, 2011, 05:05:33 PM
Oh... wow... those look amazing!
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: zmuddiman on November 15, 2011, 05:19:02 PM
Wow, after seeing those i am totally on board for the sneak in idea that was thrown around ahah
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: dmbaggs on November 15, 2011, 05:22:55 PM
What is that?
Awesomeeeeeeeeee.
They should really release it.

If I'm not mistaken those pictures CBJ posted are of the "Ellusionist Deck" that they worked on but then scraped the design. I'm sure they have some prototype decks.
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: PoundFFFFFF on November 15, 2011, 05:27:38 PM
  Hopefully after seeing this thread people should compare what they are releasing and promoting and what ellusionist scrapped before showing anyone on the net. If the latter is 20 times better, maybe the former shouldn't exist.
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: CBJ on November 15, 2011, 05:29:51 PM
If I'm not mistaken those pictures CBJ posted are of the "Ellusionist Deck" that they worked on but then scraped the design. I'm sure they have some prototype decks.

I grabbed these off an artist who did work on the Arcane Deck

Here's the link: http://cargocollective.com/kenzii

CBJ
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Evan on November 15, 2011, 05:32:41 PM
I grabbed these off an artist who did work on the Arcane Deck

Here's the link: http://cargocollective.com/kenzii

CBJ
Very cool! That legacy deck or whatever it is looks awesome!
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: dmbaggs on November 15, 2011, 05:40:19 PM
Yeah they called it the "Ellusionist Deck" here's another picture from their facebook page
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/63673_482722511160_61472466160_6294623_855357_n.jpg)

and some other early drafts we could possibly be seeing...

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/58058_483569396160_61472466160_6306351_3546457_n.jpg)

(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/156772_476762766160_61472466160_6207116_947714_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Evan on November 15, 2011, 05:55:23 PM
Its amazing to see how much cooler the real designs are!
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: xela on November 15, 2011, 06:22:20 PM
  Hopefully after seeing this thread people should compare what they are releasing and promoting and what ellusionist scrapped before showing anyone on the net. If the latter is 20 times better, maybe the former shouldn't exist.

More people need to take this statement and go nuts with it. Seriously, even some of the major releases (looking at you, Monarchs) are so ridiculously substandard it's insane.

Releasing a decent looking deck is no longer enough. In a community where hundreds of brilliant minds are trying to figure out how to wow their audience, releasing something even remotely "meh" can do you in. However, even something that is "meh" I could support if it was met with humbleness. However, when a company like T11 tries to shove a very average deck like the Monarchs down my throat with the claims that it will change how I view cards forever, that's a no-no.

We're not stupid, I like to think that most of us on the Discourse know exactly what is crap and what is worth investing into. :]
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: phantom1412 on November 15, 2011, 07:54:30 PM
No doubt why E decks never disappoint me.
They are very carefully design their decks.
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: loldudex2 on November 15, 2011, 08:05:39 PM
I would love to get my hands on a proto deck, or an uncut sheet!
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Evan on November 15, 2011, 08:09:02 PM
I don't think they'll be a chance to get protodecks....
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: loldudex2 on November 15, 2011, 08:12:33 PM
I don't think they'll be a chance to get protodecks....

It says protodecks are in the vault. Also, what's "The Shadow Box"?
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Evan on November 15, 2011, 08:14:40 PM
It says protodecks are in the vault. Also, what's "The Shadow Box"?
Oh... i feel stupid... haha
And I'm not sure what they mean by shadow box but this is the shadow box I know of: "A shadow box is an enclosed case used in dioramas with a scene or object(s) that has been specially designed to let light pass through from only one angle, so that objects within are less susceptible to damage from light."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_box
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: loldudex2 on November 15, 2011, 08:20:03 PM
I was thinking that, but I wasn't sure if it was just a creative name for something that has nothing to do with it. For example, "Papercuts" isn't actually about papercuts, it is just a catchy name given. I'm wondering if this is the same concept where "Shadow box" is some type of effect or deck, or I it is literally a shadow box.
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Evan on November 15, 2011, 08:23:35 PM
I was thinking that, but I wasn't sure if it was just a creative name for something that has nothing to do with it. For example, "Papercuts" isn't actually about papercuts, it is just a catchy name given. I'm wondering if this is the same concept where "Shadow box" is some type of effect or deck, or I it is literally a shadow box.
Yea lol... who knows! It may be a deck in a cool/custom shadow box? I guess we'll just have to wait and see!
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Marcus on November 16, 2011, 12:08:44 PM


How about we sneak in tonight with a group of us, and break in to the vault, and raid it!
I'm watching you. 8)


I had a look through every folder, link and resource on their website and couldn't find anything I couldn't access manually.  There was a couple of gifs; one reading 'Nice guess now try another one' or something like that and another reading 'Booya!' but they're in the same font as one asking you select 3 decks for your sample kit, so I'm guessing they're just now defunct buttons. 

Anyway, as far as I can tell they haven't uploaded anything to the site regarding this yet.
I'm sorry, bad that's pretty funny.  :D
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Kanped on November 16, 2011, 12:42:53 PM
Lol, yeah; I couldn't see them anywhere on the main site so I figured there was an outside chance that they might be connected to something hidden...

OR is it funny because they were exactly what I was looking for and didn't realise it?!

... almost certainly not.
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Evan on November 18, 2011, 10:51:15 PM
So still no info about the Vault! Im hoping they'll left us know on the 22nd of november but idk.
But heres a different vault.... the Infinity Vault! BIG NEWS: I just found this link!
 http://www.ellusionist.com/the-infinity-vault
The link shows nothing but its good to know that the deck actually exists!
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: phantom1412 on November 18, 2011, 11:01:55 PM
So still no info about the Vault! Im hoping they'll left us know on the 22nd of november but idk.
But heres a different vault.... the Infinity Vault! BIG NEWS: I just found this link!
 http://www.ellusionist.com/the-infinity-vault (http://www.ellusionist.com/the-infinity-vault)
The link shows nothing but its good to know that the deck actually exists!


It's nothing but the black screen.
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Evan on November 18, 2011, 11:03:17 PM
So still no info about the Vault! Im hoping they'll left us know on the 22nd of november but idk.
But heres a different vault.... the Infinity Vault! BIG NEWS: I just found this link!
 http://www.ellusionist.com/the-infinity-vault (http://www.ellusionist.com/the-infinity-vault)
The link shows nothing but its good to know that the deck actually exists!


It's nothing but the black screen.
Exactly! I just think its weird that the link actually exists
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Curt on November 18, 2011, 11:18:45 PM
So still no info about the Vault! Im hoping they'll left us know on the 22nd of november but idk.
But heres a different vault.... the Infinity Vault! BIG NEWS: I just found this link!
 http://www.ellusionist.com/the-infinity-vault (http://www.ellusionist.com/the-infinity-vault)
The link shows nothing but its good to know that the deck actually exists!


It's nothing but the black screen.


Although it seems like just a black screen, there is actually a fair amount of info on that page. If your take a look at the source code, there are a good number of javascript code and stylesheets that have potential to be used on the page. They have also already installed a google analytics tracking code on the page as well. All it needs is some html saying where to put the stylesheets and javascript, then wahhla, a webpage.
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Evan on November 18, 2011, 11:20:18 PM
So still no info about the Vault! Im hoping they'll left us know on the 22nd of november but idk.
But heres a different vault.... the Infinity Vault! BIG NEWS: I just found this link!
 http://www.ellusionist.com/the-infinity-vault (http://www.ellusionist.com/the-infinity-vault)
The link shows nothing but its good to know that the deck actually exists!


It's nothing but the black screen.


Although it seems like just a black screen, there is actually a fair amount of info on that page. If your take a look at the source code, there are a good number of javascript code and stylesheets that have potential to be used on the page. They have also already installed a google analytics tracking code on the page as well. All it needs is some html saying where to put the stylesheets and javascript, then wahhla, a webpage.
Well..... I have no idea what that means but I have a feeling thats what they're going to do!
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: KPopFever605 on November 18, 2011, 11:58:51 PM
Correction! It's not a black screen, it has a little star in the upper left corner.
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: phantom1412 on November 19, 2011, 12:22:32 AM
Correction! It's not a black screen, it has a little star in the upper left corner.


Haha, then I get to the link again just to check for the star.

Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Kanped on November 20, 2011, 07:24:04 AM
Guys, you know it says '
You really think we were going to make it this easy?'

on that page?  Click and hold on the star then drag the mouse to the right :D




Also, have you seen what the google analytics are are actually tracking?


"pageTracker._trackEvent("Checkout","PlaceOrderClicked","");"
[/size]
[/size]Yeah, looks like you'll be able to use this link to buy something at some stage
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: phantom1412 on November 20, 2011, 07:29:13 AM
Guys, you know it says '
You really think we were going to make it this easy?'

on that page?  Click and hold on the star then drag the mouse to the right :D




Also, have you seen what the google analytics are are actually tracking?


"pageTracker._trackEvent("Checkout","PlaceOrderClicked","");"

Yeah, looks like you'll be able to use this link to buy something at some stage


Haha, I think we are all better to wait...
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Evan on November 20, 2011, 10:33:12 AM
Guys, you know it says '
You really think we were going to make it this easy?'

on that page?  Click and hold on the star then drag the mouse to the right :D




Also, have you seen what the google analytics are are actually tracking?


"pageTracker._trackEvent("Checkout","PlaceOrderClicked","");"
[/size]
[/size]Yeah, looks like you'll be able to use this link to buy something at some stage
Haha that made me laugh. But it makes me really excited that we know it really exists!
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: phantom1412 on November 20, 2011, 10:54:14 AM
I just tried and there is a hidden sentence says "You really think we were going to make it this easy?"
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Kanped on November 20, 2011, 10:23:10 PM
Had another look through what's up on the site ATM but it's all just links to their 'frontend' (i.e. the basic background etc. of the site).  There's some java scripts on there but they might be generic, I dunno and I'm not gonna read through them right now.  Any programmers who wanna see if they can find anything interesting, they're here;


http://www.ellusionist.com/js/index.php?c=auto&f=,prototype/prototype.js,prototype/tooltip.js,prototype/ptooltip.js,scrollbar_files/livepipe.js,scrollbar_files/event_behavior.js,prototype/validation_silent.js,scriptaculous/builder.js,scriptaculous/effects.js,s%EF%AE%9C%18%ED%95%86F


and here;


http://www.ellusionist.com/js/index.php?c=auto&f=,mage/translate.js,mage/cookies.js,imp/cart.js,imp/adminhtml/customermedia.js,prototype-ui/prototype-ui.js
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Aaron on November 20, 2011, 10:30:35 PM
Well we will find out everything on the 22nd and i personally think that they will be giving away some proto decks, maybe of classic decks like the black tiger or the Ghost.
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Evan on November 20, 2011, 10:31:33 PM
Had another look through what's up on the site ATM but it's all just links to their 'frontend' (i.e. the basic background etc. of the site).  There's some java scripts on there but they might be generic, I dunno and I'm not gonna read through them right now.  Any programmers who wanna see if they can find anything interesting, they're here;


http://www.ellusionist.com/js/index.php?c=auto&f=,prototype/prototype.js,prototype/tooltip.js,prototype/ptooltip.js,scrollbar_files/livepipe.js,scrollbar_files/event_behavior.js,prototype/validation_silent.js,scriptaculous/builder.js,scriptaculous/effects.js,s%EF%AE%9C%18%ED%95%86F


and here;


http://www.ellusionist.com/js/index.php?c=auto&f=,mage/translate.js,mage/cookies.js,imp/cart.js,imp/adminhtml/customermedia.js,prototype-ui/prototype-ui.js
Even the translation makes no sense to me!  :P
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: phantom1412 on November 20, 2011, 11:23:49 PM

I can't understand any of that.
Better just to wait, only 2 days.
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Evan on November 20, 2011, 11:26:15 PM

I can't understand any of that.
Better just to wait, only 2 days.
Well.... we don't know when the vault will be cracked...
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: loldudex2 on November 21, 2011, 06:45:36 AM

I can't understand any of that.
Better just to wait, only 2 days.
Well.... we don't know when the vault will be cracked...

I'm sure the people ofer at 4chan could crack it ;)
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: Kanped on November 21, 2011, 06:54:46 AM
I'm sure the people ofer at 4chan could crack it ;)

They COULD but they're more likely to call it names and show it rude pictures.  For every smart/talented person on 4chan there are 1000 morons.
Title: Re: Ellusionist's Vault
Post by: loldudex2 on November 21, 2011, 06:58:24 AM
Exactly. That's why its best for them not to know.