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Playing Card Plethora / Re: ABC Deck - David Blaine
« on: December 22, 2016, 04:03:03 PM »
I assure you, the deck is brilliant!

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: White Lions [Series A] Red
« on: April 27, 2016, 01:16:40 PM »
Yeah, I remember seeing that on black friday, and before I could even mull over getting one of the 16, they were sold out.   Talk about a limited release...

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: White Lions [Series A] Red
« on: April 25, 2016, 12:36:07 PM »


Don, In the case of his most rare deck, could you argue that his full 52 gaff deck White Lions Stealth Cards  (not to be confused with the initial 37 gaff card release) is his more rare then the Purple or Create Magic? David himself has said that not only has the full 52 gaff stealth cards never been released but has only
been handed out to friends by himself, personally. Does this not make the white lions full 52 gaff deck his most rare deck to date? 

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Is this all of the decks he has released?

Released or Unreleased...heck you can even mention the project he helped with Lawrence Sullivan for the Legends.

I may have left out a deck or two, but its been a long morning already, lol

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I know some this will boil a lot down to personal taste.  Im curious to what everyone here thinks.

Regardless of rarity (Microsoft Deck, UV Deck, etc)  What is your ranking of David Blaine's decks, considering
the stock, feel, design, tuck box..etc.

My ranking:

1) Gatorbacks
2) Split Spades 1st Edition
3) Split Spades Tally Ho's
4) Series A White Lions
5) Casino Bee's
6) Black Label White Lions
7) Black Lions
8) Series B White Lions

My personal list is mostly ranked by stock/feel, rather than design.

In the case of rarity, I'd def rank that Microsoft Deck #1 and UV Deck #2...

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Black Lions Playing Card Seconds?
« on: March 14, 2016, 12:36:16 PM »

That's actually a frequent pattern for Blaine's web store.  The site goes down for maintenance, comes back several days later with a new deck for sale and sometimes a new design.  Could be they take the opportunity to insure the site won't crash when the deck goes out.

Yup, I emailed and was told the same thing as well. "maintenance"   Although as Don mentioned, his site does seem to conveniently go down weeks before the release of a new deck or design.  *crosses fingers*

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Guess who I had dinner with tonight?
« on: February 25, 2016, 07:55:58 PM »
Just ready the whole story, Don.  Unbelievable!  Very jealous you got a chance to pick his brain!  If i had the chance to do card tricks in front of him, im almost sure the entire deck would be falling out of my shaky hands the entire bit. lol 

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Black Lions Playing Card Seconds?
« on: February 19, 2016, 02:44:32 PM »

It's certainly obvious you don't like DB  ;)

lol, like many of us David was a huge inspiration to why I ever even picked up my first deck of cards 15 years ago.  The guy revolutionized magic by focusing on his spectators, instead of showmanship.  It was refreshing.  He made magic "cool" in my book. 

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I have a lot of preferences for what a deck must have in order to be functional for card tricks.  The stock, cut, traditional faces, fanning ability...etc.  But I was wondering what the rest of you think.  What are your opinions on what makes a great deck for magic and why? 

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Black Lions Playing Card Seconds?
« on: February 18, 2016, 03:46:46 PM »
from what I know of David having met him and his creative team once, I'm inclined to doubt that theory.  He's an exceptionally nice guy and works with a fine crew of people.

           You've met with David and his team??  Who, what, why, where, when? lol  :)

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Black Lions Playing Card Seconds?
« on: February 18, 2016, 12:35:04 PM »
Even the worst Black Lion is going to be better than the best Bicycle Standard (and world's better than the best newly-made Mavericks)!  In New York City, Bicycle Standards typically sell for more than $4 at a local branch of a typical drugstore chain or from the corner bodega.

On another forum, someone said a source close to David said he is notoriously picky about his signature decks, and that its rumored to have come down to just the type of seal (tax stamp) they used on the original run of tuck boxes that bothered him enough to weed them out.  Either way, I plan to grab a brick to practice/perform daily with as beater decks.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Black Lions - David Blaine
« on: February 18, 2016, 01:02:00 AM »
Yup I got mine traditional cut as well. but I only open 1 out of the 12..

Just opened my second deck of my brick and its traditionally cut as well...so far so good!

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Black Lions - David Blaine
« on: February 16, 2016, 06:00:58 PM »

As I did to the black lion, I start with the face down faro and repeat that a few times then try doing the face up faro. If it doesn't work repeat the process. You can also add other things such as riffle shuffle, dribble, spring lepaul spread in between.


Thanks!  Did your black lions come traditionally cut as mine did?  A lot of people seem to have received theirs modern cut and arent able to faro them out of the box.  I think we may have lucked out and got some from a batch that was cut traditionally...   :D

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Playing Card Plethora / Black Lions Playing Card Seconds?
« on: February 16, 2016, 01:20:05 PM »
David Blaine mentioned on his instagram account that Black Lions "Seconds" were coming out soon.

From my understanding, factory seconds means an inferior product.  Something with a defect that didnt pass quality control.

What are your thoughts?  How bad can these cards have been off during printing or cutting to be considered "seconds" ?

Anyone have any experience with a factory second deck?

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Black Lions - David Blaine
« on: February 15, 2016, 04:36:10 PM »

Regarding faro shuffles, I noticed that the White Lions will faro top to bottom while the Black Lions are the reverse, faro shuffling from bottom to top.  It has to do with the cut made when the cards were die-punched from the paper.  White Lions use the "modern cut", where cards are punched face-up, from back to front as the die penetrates the paper, making them beveled for a top-to-bottom faro.  Modern cut is more efficient for manufacturers, but not as good for table shuffles.  Traditionally-cut cards are cut out face-down, with the die penetrating the face and coming out the back.  This allows for easier shuffling and bottom-to-top faro shuffles, meaning you can table shuffle them face down and make a faro rather than having to hold them face up.

I learned from USPC at the last 52+Joker convention that the company occasionally has trouble feeding paper in the cutter one way and will flip it before cutting it if this is the case, so the Black Lions were "accidentally" traditionally cut likely because of paper feed problems.  Many magicians prefer the traditional cut and casinos for the most part insist on it for their custom-made decks.

The quality of the paper is a little more subjective, but the consensus seems to be that the WLs had a better stock than the BLs.


Thanks Dan! You seem to have a plethora of knowledge when it comes to cards!  So, are  you saying that if I take my White Lions and flip them (face up), i should be able to faro them as normal as I can with the traditionally cut Black lions? 


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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Black Lions - David Blaine
« on: February 15, 2016, 12:41:21 PM »
Has anyone else noticed that the cut of the black lions vs the white lions (black label) is different?  Im not 100% sure, but the stock, quality, and cut feel different.

For instance, I cant faro shuffle consistently with any of my white lions, but the black lions will practically faro themselves.  Anyone else have a hard time faro'ing with the white lions (series b/black label)  ?


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Introduce Yourself / Hey guys!
« on: February 15, 2016, 11:59:40 AM »
My name is Priestley.  I've been a magician and card enthusiast for almost 15 years now.  Long time reader of this forum, and decided to finally register!

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