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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Playing Card Plethora => Topic started by: CBJ on July 18, 2014, 08:47:05 PM
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Bill Kalush posted this on FB
"Brand New From @davidblaine and @expertpcc #expertpcc "
(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/10468197_10152137353106249_491111728624885339_n_zpse712842b.jpg)
CBJ
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It definitely looks EPCC Taipei factory printed with the tuckbox and seal sticker. Those are two defining features I've found with how things are done over there EPCC. It's nice to see someone really big do a print with them though I have to say design-wise, I wish there was less white space.
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The timing with Gator Backs being released in a few weeks, makes this a tough sell. One would think the opposite. However, we are talking about two blaine decks at extreme opposite ends of the design spectrum. Instead of complementing each other, Gators are going to suck the wind out of the sails of this EPCC deck like a vacuum.
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Looks like there's more info on the deck on EPCC's official website:
"Microsoft-Blaine
Shhhh! This special deck was produced by Microsoft just for one party where David Blaine performed."
Which goes to show that I need enough money to get a custom deck for a special party with a magician.
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The timing with Gator Backs being released in a few weeks, makes this a tough sell. One would think the opposite. However, we are talking about two blaine decks at extreme opposite ends of the design spectrum. Instead of complementing each other, Gators are going to suck the wind out of the sails of this EPCC deck like a vacuum.
I definitely don't see that as the case. I seem to recall the timing being similarly tight between the release of the White Lions Black Label and the Silver Split Spades - neither deck suffered, and the design differences between them are actually very similar to the differences between this "Microsoft party" deck and the Gatorbacks.
I don't think one will cannibalize the other's sales. If anything, I see it as providing people will more incentive to check them out - because they can combine shipping, getting two decks at once for less than it would cost to get them on separate occasions.
I looked at zoomed versions of those images. The front says "LIMITED EDITION OF" and what appears to be the number 2015, as odd a number as that sounds. The back reads "------ MAGIC", where the six-letter word appears to begin with perhaps an "L" and end with either "EY" or "CY". Could be the word "LEGACY" but I wouldn't bet on that being the case.
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If this is only getting teased now, perhaps it's not due a release for a few months if the Gatorbacks timeline is anything to go by? Then again, perhaps not.
I'm happy its an EPCC deck, but the back design doesn't do much for me personally.
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It's just a simple, elegant design. I like it.
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The timing with Gator Backs being released in a few weeks, makes this a tough sell. One would think the opposite. However, we are talking about two blaine decks at extreme opposite ends of the design spectrum. Instead of complementing each other, Gators are going to suck the wind out of the sails of this EPCC deck like a vacuum.
I definitely don't see that as the case. I seem to recall the timing being similarly tight between the release of the White Lions Black Label and the Silver Split Spades - neither deck suffered, and the design differences between them are actually very similar to the differences between this "Microsoft party" deck and the Gatorbacks.
I don't think one will cannibalize the other's sales. If anything, I see it as providing people will more incentive to check them out - because they can combine shipping, getting two decks at once for less than it would cost to get them on separate occasions.
I looked at zoomed versions of those images. The front says "LIMITED EDITION OF" and what appears to be the number 2015, as odd a number as that sounds. The back reads "------ MAGIC", where the six-letter word appears to begin with perhaps an "L" and end with either "EY" or "CY". Could be the word "LEGACY" but I wouldn't bet on that being the case.
The Microsoft Party makes this an event deck. That does positively change the perception of the deck and the collectibility of it.
I would not go as far as comparing this to the "white lions" when using it to support the release timing with another deck (silver edition SS). These are not on the same level as those decks or Gators. I'm not trying to be negitive toward the design, I simply don't think it will do as well as it could had Gators not been anticipated soon. Sure people probably will buy both if available. I believe that has more to do now with its event collectibility then it's design.
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This is the first time I'm seeing a back design for a DB deck where I'm thinking "boring"... which is a shame, because I'm a massive fan of DB as well as the Taipei factory.
If the print run is extremely small and the deck is going to be difficult to obtain, then it probably will show up on the bay of the e for big numbers (kind of like the Sharps by LPCC).
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well... do we think they are going to be for sale?
According to DB FB page, his last entry is him on stage (https://www.facebook.com/DavidBlaine)
saying... Amazing time, thank you team and thank you Microsoft
With people commenting, "thank you for an amazing show"
Apparently it was an intern event for the XBOX 1 launch, there are pictures of him doing his underwater stunt for passers by on twitter
the interns all got an XBOX 1 as part of their "gift" why not a DB deck along with it?
(http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae51/mojo_turbo/10533030_808713572496733_491117669_n_zps2b207f9f.jpg)
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At least we now know what the back says: CREATE MAGIC. Nice.
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from Bill Kalush (to me)
I'm afraid that deck was produced for Microsoft and not for sale
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from Bill Kalush (to me)
I'm afraid that deck was produced for Microsoft and not for sale
And there you have it...oh well.
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Oh god... now i want it :/
Thanks for that...
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Oh god... now i want it :/
Thanks for that...
Easy enough. Just find your nearest time machine, go back maybe a year and get a gig as an intern at Microsoft. Just try not bumping into yourself in this time line because you'll probably create an explosion that will destroy the fabric of time and space - not to mention that awkward feeling that you've bumped into someone who knows all about you...
EPCC has had other decks that aren't for sale. They gave them away instead! Keep your eyes open.
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If these were given out at an event- wonder if any will show up on ebay? I did a search but didn't find anything.
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If these were given out at an event- wonder if any will show up on ebay? I did a search but didn't find anything.
For a souvenir deck like that, odds are that most are sitting on display on someone's deck in Redmond, Washington...
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If these were given out at an event- wonder if any will show up on ebay? I did a search but didn't find anything.
For a souvenir deck like that, odds are that most are sitting on display on someone's deck in Redmond, Washington...
On the other hand, MS interns should know how to use ebay...=P
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On the other hand, MS interns should know how to use ebay...=P
If you owned a really cool and unique deck that commemorated the day you got to see David Blaine perform up close and personal, would YOU want to put it on eBay? :))
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Looks like a lame, boring and average deck. Sorry to the creator I am tired of looking at the same thing.
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Looks like a lame, boring and average deck. Sorry to the creator I am tired of looking at the same thing.
The creator is probably the same man who designed all the other Blaine decks as well as the recent "Whispering Imps" project for Chris Chelko - Mark Stutzman.
It's all about one's tastes. To me, assuming the faces are the same as David uses on all of his decks in recent releases, it's a mostly-standard design, only slightly tweaked to make him and his friends and family court cards and he obviously chose to go with a simple, elegant back design for this one-time-only performance. Some people call that boring, I call it a perfect deck for performing magic and cardistry and playing poker. I don't think that David's ever done a full-custom deck, just as how they're rather rare from Theory 11 - most of what they make uses the USPC standard faces, albeit with new coloring. Their most popular deck at present is probably the Monarchs, and those faces are as standard as the summer solstice day is long.
And there's that part about the one-time-only event. For all we know, the deck was commissioned by Microsoft for their little shindig and David was limited as to what he could change about the design.
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Looks like a lame, boring and average deck. Sorry to the creator I am tired of looking at the same thing.
The creator is probably the same man who designed all the other Blaine decks as well as the recent "Whispering Imps" project for Chris Chelko - Mark Stutzman.
It's all about one's tastes. To me, assuming the faces are the same as David uses on all of his decks in recent releases, it's a mostly-standard design, only slightly tweaked to make him and his friends and family court cards and he obviously chose to go with a simple, elegant back design for this one-time-only performance. Some people call that boring, I call it a perfect deck for performing magic and cardistry and playing poker. I don't think that David's ever done a full-custom deck, just as how they're rather rare from Theory 11 - most of what they make uses the USPC standard faces, albeit with new coloring. Their most popular deck at present is probably the Monarchs, and those faces are as standard as the summer solstice day is long.
And there's that part about the one-time-only event. For all we know, the deck was commissioned by Microsoft for their little shindig and David was limited as to what he could change about the design.
I agree there is something beautiful about the classic, and for magicians, cardists and poker players the purest is probably best, but not for me, I like my decks to be like roller coasters, not merry-go-rounds. :)
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Check out the name badge from the event....
(http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae51/mojo_turbo/IMG_3019_zps17fea795.jpg)
And Blaine's cool marquee
(http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae51/mojo_turbo/IMG_3039_zps47ba807e.jpg)
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Very cool David, Thanks for sharing :)
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email I got from MIcrosoft.....
Good day! Thank you for contacting Microsoft Customer Service.
I understand that you want a special edition of David Blaine deck of playing cards. Your request is subject for availability. I suggest that you contact US XBOX Support at 1-8004MYXBOX(469-9269), they are open daily from 6 AM-10 PM PST.
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email I got from MIcrosoft.....
Good day! Thank you for contacting Microsoft Customer Service.
I understand that you want a special edition of David Blaine deck of playing cards. Your request is subject for availability. I suggest that you contact US XBOX Support at 1-8004MYXBOX(469-9269), they are open daily from 6 AM-10 PM PST.
Canned auto-answer ftw! =P
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I'll try asking through the Microsoft Partner's Portal.
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Found a picture of the custom art for this deck. Looks like standard courts, but the joker and the AoS are custom.
http://i.imgur.com/1jPCWJQ.jpg
can anyone confirm if this is new art or not? i've never seen the face cards of any of the DB decks.
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Hi all,
I am a Microsoft intern.. and I have an extra deck. Would y'all be able to provide some help on valuation of this deck?
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Well im no expert, but since your deck is probably not going to be available anytime soon and it was specially made for that single event. It pretty much is on the expensive side.
Do you want to sell it? Im interested... 8)
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What qualifies as the expensive side? There's someone I know who's interested in purchasing, but I don't know how much the deck is worth.
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Hi all,
I am a Microsoft intern.. and I have an extra deck. Would y'all be able to provide some help on valuation of this deck?
Have you checked recently-completed auctions at eBay? That's usually a decent barometer as to what people are paying for just about anything these days.
Ok...I just took a look. There's not a single pack presently for sale, nor has there been in recent history. Without a marketplace for the deck, it's hard to assess its value. Anyone could give you a figure but it would be one of two things - either what they're willing to pay for it, or just a stab in the dark.
What qualifies as the expensive side? There's someone I know who's interested in purchasing, but I don't know how much the deck is worth.
How much would you be willing to pay for a small stack of paper in a paper box? Expensive side is a relative term. I'd consider $15-20 on the expensive side for a new deck - but there are new-condition decks out there that are way more expensive than that, some even in the low three figures. There's the rarity factor, but there's no way to know how many were created or are in circulation other than that they were given away at an exclusive event.
Simply put, there are too many unknowns to account for before someone could offer an accurate assessment of the deck's value. It's really a matter of what someone's willing to pay and what you're willing to accept. If this "someone you know" is a friend, perhaps a friends-and-family discount would be a factor as well.
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I'll give you a ballpark answer, since that seems to be what you're looking for. I can guarantee you that if you put that deck up for auction right now and advertise it here and at UnitedCardists, you are looking at at the very very minimum, $50. I suspect that it would easily sell for $75+, and if a few people decide they really want the deck, it might get up to $150+. The unique circumstances behind this deck and the talent that created it means that it's effectively a one of a kind deck and it'll only go up in value. My advice? Either take the chance of being the first seller on the market and sell it for an absurd price or hope that the value appreciates in the future. One could make an argument for either approach.
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Thank you for the advice.
The person I know is an acquaintance, not someone I know personally, so I don't know if he'd quote me an honest price.
To my knowledge, there are 2015 decks in existence, because that is the year they want us to return (cheesy, right?) David Blaine mentioned that we should hold onto the decks because they would be worth a pretty penny in the future.
I may end up putting up the deck for auction if a deal with the guy falls through-- I think the deck would be more appreciated in the hands of a collector.
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Also adding to the rarity is that many folks that got them aren't collectors, and may have (gasp!) opened them and used them, thus making an unopened and pristine (or even opened, but complete and in good shape, deck worth a lot more than if it were released to collectors only, where it would be pampered and preserved. If the deck goes on eBay, I'll jump into the bidding war to see what happens! :-)
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Just posted this in the Acquisitions topic.
The sticker seal is very similar to that on the Gatorbacks - and probably a few other recent Blaine decks. The GBs have a silver seal, though, with an alteration to the bottom and it also appears larger.
Yes, the faces are standard - of a sort. They're the old-school faces Expert/CARC put on most of their own decks, with the exceptions of the Jokers and Ace of Spades (as noted) AND that the courts are altered like most Blaine decks with images of his friends and family.
The coating is REMARKABLE - slicker than usual while not as slippery as USPC's Magic Finish. This is a good thing. Even a "specially-abled" fanner like myself can make a decent-looking fan out of them.
The box says "Special Edition of 2015", which one could look at two ways. One could guess that the deck will be released next year for the public (if 2015 is a year but not a quantity) or, as mentioned by the Microsoft intern below, it's an indication of the number of decks that were made, specifically chosen because that's the year Microsoft wants the interns to return - a reasonable assumption.
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Based on some "Things" I have been told, I would hang on to that deck ;)
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Based on some "Things" I have been told, I would hang on to that deck ;)
Not planning to give it away, nope! What are these "Things" you've heard? ;D