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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => A Cellar of Fine Vintages => Topic started by: Cryptocard27 on October 20, 2015, 02:28:07 PM
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Here is a small collection of images collected in antique american newspapers:
1: 1890 - USPCC Playing Cards
2: 1893 - Bicycle Gold Medal
3: 1893 - Bicycle Hands
4: 1893 - Special Bicycle Pack
5: 1894 - Bicycle Card Backs
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6: 1895 - Bicycle Card Backs
7: 1895 - Bicycle Sickle Cards
8: 1895 - USPCC Playing Cards
9: 1896 - Bicycle Playing Cards
10: 1902 - Special Bicycle Pack
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These are gorgeous - save some for CARD CULTURE! :))
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Can I play, too?
some pages from 1898 USPCC Fashion Series Catalog from Library of Congress Smithsonian Libraries.
http://www.sil.si.edu/imagegalaxy/imageGalaxy_enlarge.cfm?id_image=11963
http://www.sil.si.edu/imagegalaxy/imageGalaxy_enlarge.cfm?id_image=11965
http://www.sil.si.edu/imagegalaxy/imageGalaxy_enlarge.cfm?id_image=11970
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Guys, if you have more such images that are off-copyright, send them to Fes (http://www.playingcardforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=35508)! He's in charge of them for CARD CULTURE and we want to print some of them - perhaps even all of them.
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Images I posted are off copyright but there is usage fee for publication of the images that would probably apply if we put them in Card Culture. Free for individuals to download low-res images from the site, and free for research. Here is the link to the whole publication. http://www.sil.si.edu/imagegalaxy/imageGalaxy_MoreImages.cfm?book_id=SIL-038-33
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Images I posted are off copyright but there is usage fee for publication of the images that would probably apply if we put them in Card Culture. Free for individuals to download low-res images from the site, and free for research. Here is the link to the whole publication. http://www.sil.si.edu/imagegalaxy/imageGalaxy_MoreImages.cfm?book_id=SIL-038-33
So how does that work - a usage fee, but no copyright? The lack of a copyright means the image is in the public domain, useable by anyone without paying copyright fees - no one owns the rights to the image. I'm not trying to sound like a smartass - I want to know if there's a legitimate situation, legally-speaking, where this would apply.
For example, the original movie (not the musical) "Little Shop of Horrors" was a Roger Corman film on which the copyright expired and wasn't renewed, thus leaving it in the public domain. When the subsequent musical play and musical movie were produced, no one owed so much as a thin dime to Roger Corman as a result. Now, if I tried making another work derived of the original, I'm fine, but if I try making a work derived from one of the subsequent productions, they have their own copyrights to be considered and thus I'd have to pay fees to the owners of those works. The same would apply to any modern movie made based on the plays of William Shakespeare - no one owes William or his heirs a dime, but if I tried making a TV show based on one of the movies rather than the original work, I'd have to check if that particular film was still protected, while a TV show based on the original work is free and clear of "prior art" of any kind. The trick there would be sticking to the original script and making sure that any deviations from the script weren't already employed in someone else's more recent work - for example, if I changed the setting to the modern, functional city of "Verona Beach," I'd be treading dangerously close to the version created for the cinema by Baz Luhrmann...
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The fee is for using their image of the phyiscal document in their possession. If someone wants to publish their image of their object, they claim a usage fee. Not my area of law, but that is what they claim.
From the site - http://www.sil.si.edu/imagegalaxy/imageGalaxy_About_FAQ.cfm
10. Why do I have to pay the Smithsonian Libraries a fee for use of public domain images?
As the physical rights holder of this material, most of which is in the public domain for copyright purposes, Smithsonian Libraries charges a usage fee if images are to be used in any nonprofit or commercial publication, broadcast, website, exhibition, promotional material, etc. The usage fee is not a copyright fee. You are free to obtain a copy of these images from a source other than Smithsonian Institution Libraries.
Licensing and imaging fees directly support our collections and projects. Licensing also helps to maintain the integrity of our collection by regulating where and how our images may be used. Smithsonian Libraries provides free and open access to its digital images and the images may be freely downloaded for personal, research and study purposes only.
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Guys, if you have more such images that are off-copyright, send them to Fes (http://www.playingcardforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=35508)! He's in charge of them for CARD CULTURE and we want to print some of them - perhaps even all of them.
I have other images and if you can print them, it would be really great!! I will post some of the images here but I will contact Fes to also send them to him.