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Title: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Evan on October 03, 2011, 06:34:10 PM
In my opinion, Blue Artifice V2 looks nice but not as nice as the V1. V2 will be better for magic tricks because it will have a nice white border. I like that very much because I am a magician. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: loldudex2 on October 03, 2011, 06:46:48 PM
Although I have never really been of fan of the Artifice design, I like the v1 a TON better.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Curt on October 03, 2011, 06:51:01 PM
I agree, the v1's look awesome ( especially in red )  :P but I understand the need for them to have a border, I mean a majority of Ellusionists customers are magicians, so it makes sense for them to market and tweak their cards towards them. The v2's are not horrible, just not as good as the original.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: john on October 03, 2011, 07:02:19 PM
I think it just looks odd like the border isn't meant to be their but i love the way they handle so ill be buying some.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Gunshy1 on October 04, 2011, 12:05:52 AM
i also think the border looks a bit odd. i wish they would have had the art "bleed" out into the border more. Really though, for me, it's the faces of the cards that are the most gorgeous part of the deck. I will probably pick up a few of the v2's so i dont have to touch my red or blue artifice cards anymore
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: John B. on October 04, 2011, 10:33:26 AM
i a magician but i prefer no border. looks better that way.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: phantom1412 on October 06, 2011, 03:44:22 AM
I prefer the original one too.
And very glad that they didn't have red artifice v2.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Evan on October 06, 2011, 03:04:22 PM
Me too. I would have been angry if they made a Red Artifice V2.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: loldudex2 on October 06, 2011, 03:07:55 PM
Me too. I wasn't able to access a computerat the release of the RA and my loving mom stayed on the computer for hours to pick me up a brick. It'd suck if they made a v2 version that anyone could get.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Evan on October 06, 2011, 03:32:51 PM
Yea. I waited 4 hours for my brick of red artifice.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: loldudex2 on October 06, 2011, 04:56:30 PM
That's about the same time my mom spent.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Evan on October 06, 2011, 05:29:13 PM
you have a nice mom lol. My mom would never do that!  :P
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: loldudex2 on October 06, 2011, 06:15:31 PM
Yah. She knew I really wanted them, and I think it was around my birthday, or something like that
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Evan on October 06, 2011, 06:38:09 PM
nice!
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: John B. on October 06, 2011, 06:40:47 PM
yea my mom would have told me off even if i did it my self.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Evan on October 06, 2011, 06:41:48 PM
haha odd
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: John B. on October 06, 2011, 06:42:37 PM
she did not support my desire to be a magician.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Evan on October 06, 2011, 06:43:03 PM
I have to buy all my decks and magic supplies myself. It sucks
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: John B. on October 06, 2011, 06:45:11 PM
yea i had to get my stuff myself, glad im own now.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: loldudex2 on October 06, 2011, 07:22:43 PM
I used my own money to buy the Red Artifice, but she sat at the computer and ordered them, but I still had to pay.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: John B. on October 06, 2011, 07:27:04 PM
yea she would not help me at all.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Evan on October 06, 2011, 07:42:14 PM
yea it sucks
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Gunshy1 on October 06, 2011, 11:34:40 PM
i spent 8 hours for 3 decks. not even remotely kidding either.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: phantom1412 on October 07, 2011, 02:39:51 AM
My point about red artifice v2 is that I can]t imagine how ugly it would be with white boarder, not that it`s hard to get.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: VortexHead on October 07, 2011, 11:31:34 AM
I prefer the originals but I'll pick up a couple in time. The borders take away from the elegance for me but that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Gunshy1 on October 07, 2011, 12:14:52 PM
My point about red artifice v2 is that I can]t imagine how ugly it would be with white boarder, not that it`s hard to get.

o shoot. sorry. i just read some of the people talking about how long their mothers waited to get the cards for them. i didnt mean to get off topic
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Evan on October 07, 2011, 03:11:53 PM
I agree. A red artifice deck with a white border... terrible
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Gunshy1 on October 07, 2011, 05:53:42 PM
why would a red deck with a white border look so bad? it would look the same. just red.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Evan on October 07, 2011, 06:44:58 PM
Not any red deck. We just mean the red artifice deck would look bad with a border.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Gunshy1 on October 07, 2011, 08:12:34 PM
sorry, i meant artifice i was just being lazy. I don't see who red artifice would like bad as a border. they would probably look odd just like the blues do, but no different.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: John B. on October 07, 2011, 09:30:57 PM
yea i dont think the green one would look good with the white border either.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: phantom1412 on October 07, 2011, 10:44:35 PM
I think it might be better if the do the black boarder on the face of the card.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: RF on October 08, 2011, 06:43:18 PM
I think the borders kinda "destroy" the look of the cards, they look so mystical and everything (the box, the faces, the Ace of spades) looked so perfect together and the white border doesn't look so good on the box
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Evan on October 08, 2011, 06:44:59 PM
I think the emerald artifice will look nice with the border. But I like them all best without the border.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: john on October 08, 2011, 11:22:35 PM
Stumbled across this review.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy67xy6fI7U&feature=feedu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy67xy6fI7U&feature=feedu)
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: John B. on October 08, 2011, 11:26:26 PM
looks great but i hate the border. :(
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: RF on October 09, 2011, 09:37:04 AM
looks great but i hate the border. :(

the review is pretty good, the fans are great but I don't like the border though
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Evan on October 09, 2011, 10:52:47 AM
I wouldn't say I don't like the border. I just liked it better without it
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: RF on October 09, 2011, 10:59:35 AM
I wouldn't say I don't like the border. I just liked it better without it

for magicans the borders are good, but for collectors the v1 is great
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: phantom1412 on October 09, 2011, 11:01:45 AM
I wouldn't say I don't like the border. I just liked it better without it

for magicans the borders are good, but for collectors the v1 is great

I am magician, but I love v1.
I don't really use those outstanding looking deck for magic.
I draw out too much suspicious.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: D_bag on October 09, 2011, 11:56:00 PM
Honestly I prefer the borderless V1 version of the deck. It looked more complete and elegant in my opinion.

Stumbled across this review.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy67xy6fI7U&feature=feedu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy67xy6fI7U&feature=feedu)

Oh I can't stand deckreview. He sounds so bored when he reviews and he dissed the Arcane deck.  >:(
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Aaron on October 11, 2011, 12:42:16 AM
i think its nice but not as nice as v1 also if you listen to their last podcast they said they are making an emerald green artifice which i think would be amazingly nice
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: dee1orean on October 11, 2011, 05:28:24 PM
I understand why they did it but  I think they ruined an awesome deck by doing so.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: xela on October 11, 2011, 05:32:42 PM
I think the option of having both versions is nice. I don't believe they should call it a "v2."

I think these days the words "v2" or "fifth edition" are thrown around carelessly.

I believe a bordered version was a must for their core magician demographic. They listened to the largest complaint and within a few months fixed the problem that many people had. Still, the card industry needs a serious overhaul of semantics.

I'd call it Artifice v1.1.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Gunshy1 on October 11, 2011, 05:46:22 PM
ha it seems like i am the only one that likes the ordered version better then the first version
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Jin Jian on October 19, 2011, 11:38:58 AM
Those white border make the whole deck look totally different but i know they got a reason for doing that
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Evan on October 19, 2011, 03:06:55 PM
I do like the V1 better but I just ordered a few V2's in my big order.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Jin Jian on October 20, 2011, 02:52:07 AM
I do like the V1 better but I just ordered a few V2's in my big order.
what is good about border? may i ask ?
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Curt on October 20, 2011, 03:02:08 AM
what is good about border? may i ask ?

Having a border on playing cards allows magicians to use reversed cards in the deck and they are not easily spotted. If you use a deck where there are no borders, then the reversed card is easily distinguishable compared to the rest of the cards in the deck. Given that most of Ellusionists customer base is magicians, it makes sense for them to sell a deck that provides the option for many more card magic effects by having a border on the cards.

Hope that answers your question  :D
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Jin Jian on October 20, 2011, 10:17:05 AM
Having a border on playing cards allows magicians to use reversed cards in the deck and they are not easily spotted. If you use a deck where there are no borders, then the reversed card is easily distinguishable compared to the rest of the cards in the deck. Given that most of Ellusionists customer base is magicians, it makes sense for them to sell a deck that provides the option for many more card magic effects by having a border on the cards.

Hope that answers your question  :D
haha ok i understand already so you have a deck and a reversed card then you go through the deck slowly showing only the borders then the person would think it is a normal deck of card without knowing the reversed card because of the borders hiding it ..lol am i right?
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: John B. on October 20, 2011, 10:21:50 AM
yes you are, i am not a fan of those tricks.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Jin Jian on October 20, 2011, 10:49:14 AM
yes you are, i am not a fan of those tricks.
what kind of trick and those trick do
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: phantom1412 on October 20, 2011, 11:25:49 AM
what kind of trick and those trick do

Didn't you read the previous post?
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Curt on October 20, 2011, 12:50:07 PM
what kind of trick and those trick do

There are many, many, many trick that involve reversed cards. If you are seriously interested I suggest you pick up a book on card tricks. Perhaps the Card College Series.

K, Lets stay on topic about the V2's Any further posts not relating to the subject of this thread will be deleted.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: sinsandman on October 20, 2011, 01:10:19 PM
I just ordered an Av2...I will post up a mini review once I actually receive them.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: phantom1412 on October 20, 2011, 01:12:54 PM
I just ordered an Av2...I will post up a mini review once I actually receive them.

I think you will get a sneak peak of new E deck, from your order too.
CAn you post it here too?
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: sinsandman on October 20, 2011, 01:19:47 PM
I have actually confirmed I will be getting the sneak peek. I am not sure if I am comfortable posting it though. I feel like if E wanted it to be blasted they would do it themselves. But,!!!!, that is just me. I know of someone else that is too about to get the peek and he happens to run a sneak peek fb page. So worry not, the peek will be blasted, just not by me.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Evan on October 20, 2011, 03:02:32 PM
I think your talking about me  ;D I will have it in a video on my channel and a picture on my page!
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Gunshy1 on October 20, 2011, 03:20:29 PM
dangit. I bought two Artificev2's and the second i got the package i threw away everything that wasn't the cards. does everyone get the sneak peak if they buy or is it just a select few? cause ima feel stupid if everyone gets it and i just tossed it lol
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: Evan on October 20, 2011, 03:30:11 PM
dangit. I bought two Artificev2's and the second i got the package i threw away everything that wasn't the cards. does everyone get the sneak peak if they buy or is it just a select few? cause ima feel stupid if everyone gets it and i just tossed it lol
Everyone gets it but I think thats starting yesterday so you probably didn't get it. Im not sure though
Title: Re: Thoughts on Blue Artifice V2?
Post by: sinsandman on October 20, 2011, 05:21:54 PM
It is all shipable orders. And yes I was talking about you Ev lol