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You're welcome.

There's practically no difficulty at all adapting a bridge-sized card to poker-sized - you add a eighth-inch margin on the left and right sides of the art and push the indices back into the newly-positioned corners.  Makes for a nice amount of negative space that allows your indices to stand out nicely.

It's easy to put a smaller painting in a bigger frame - the inverse of that is what's difficult!

Thanks Don :)

I agree, it's absolutely easier to add space than to do the reverse...
The biggest obstacle for me (at the moment) is printing costs, and that I really, really don't know my way around KS or crowd-funding :)

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May I ask which shop did you went to get the card?
I know there are a few shops in Melbourne, but they are a bit dear. oh and If you need help in finding more deck I can help you too  :)

Thanks HankMan - the shop is 'the games shop' :)
I was only after one deck for size comparison - to see how much difference 6mm makes ;)

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Well said Don :)

I think your statement is true for most, if not all, forms of expression. Meaning, artistic vision or something else can bend the rules of practical use... you could even say that artistic freedom is vital to exploring new horizons. However, when rules are bent without consideration or perhaps understanding of the system used as a vehicle for the artwork - both may suffer. For example, if the court cards in a deck were represented by classical paintings - careful selection of the paintings to represent each card could enhance the overall deck (and meaning)... where on the other hand, depicting the Mona Lisa as the King of Clubs would to many seem a little strange ;)

I enjoy your comments - welcome procrastination from my 'to-do' list :D

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Thank you for your kind feedback - I'm glad you like the art :)
I might look into creating a poker size version in the future ...

Thanks again for stopping by to look :)

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The images look great, especially the suit of spades/swords. I think you only need to do some limited editing with the cards to turn them into bridge size (a little shifting of the figures to the sides).

-Ly

Thank you :)
I'm enjoying the feedback on size and am learning a lot about the different ways people see and prefer cards. In the end I think it's subjective (as most things to do with taste are) and perhaps also based on where you live....

I went on a mission to find a poker sized deck yesterday - it took me 7 shops before I found one  ??? After visiting a bunch of book stores, newsagents, a game store and a tobacconist / gift shop - I finally discovered a cute little shop devoted to games (board and card) with multiple deck sizes on display in their counter cabinet... And so I now have one to compare :)

It's true, I don't think I need to make that many changes to make this deck poker size (I might do some drafts and put in the D&D section), the biggest part (for me) is the printing cost...

Thanks again Don, chas0039 & Blue Toy for your kinds words and feedback - I really appreciate it :)

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Thanks Don :)

I like quaint ... :)
Although the Anglo-American style has become standard around the world, there's something appealing (perhaps more so to artists, designers, collectors and local players) about non-standard decks, where Jacks may be Kn, V, S or B ... depending on which country the deck hails from. I agree that indices (regardless of language) ought to be consistent within each deck in terms of placement and size - and you're right that no serious player wants 'unexpected' elements of surprise :)

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Thank you Don :)

Yes, Kn-ight - Knekt - Kn-ave... they all fit
...and they add extra suspense to play for those who enjoy peeking at their hand (where 'K' can mean a King or a Knight... until revealed) :)

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I love the art work, especially the Queen of Spades.  However, bridge size kills it for me.

Thanks for the posting.  They were enjoyable to see.

Thank you for your kind feedback - I'm glad you like the art :)
I might look into creating a poker size version in the future ...

Thanks again for stopping by to look :)

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1. I think the cards are beautiful!

2. Bridge-sized decks are rather small for my large hands, so I would love to see them in a poker-sized deck.

3. And I placed an order for two decks back on the 22nd. of June.

4. So I am keeping an eye on my mailbox daily for the soon to arrive package!

5. If my wife likes these as much as I believe she will, I'll have to order more; especially if they are released in poker-sized decks!

6. Thank You for creating these!

Will Hart
Fullerton, California

Thank you so much for your comments Will - I truly hope you (and/or your wife) will be happy with them and I look forward to hearing your feedback on the actual cards :)
I chose bridge size because it fitted the artwork (coming from the tall & narrow tarot size), it's also the (playing card) size I am most familiar with (seems strange around here, but it's true ;))
... If there's enough interest, I'd absolutely enjoy making a poker size version of this deck in the future.

Hopefully your package will arrive very soon - thanks again and all the best :)

Annette

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Hello :)

After a year of drawing and painting I am excited to announce the arrival of this new little deck of playing cards.

Available from:


A little introduction:
  • 52 Playing cards + 2 Jokers
  • Tuckbox and folded title card included
  • Standard (bridge) size 57 x 89mm
  • 300gsm smooth card stock
  • $17 AUD + postage (single deck ships @ $8 AUD world-wide)

Nine Lives Illustrated Playing Cards is a deck inspired by Tarot, featuring fully illustrated Royals, Aces, Joker & Card backs.
The artwork features Kings, Queens and Knights from Nine Lives Tarot, redrawn and dressed in clothes to match their corresponding playing card suit.

Aces combine tarot and playing card symbols, while pips follow a more traditional style using suit symbols I designed especially for this deck.

















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.. A few more court transitions:



I'll add a thread in the plethora with some more examples of the cards.

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The Expert Playing Card Company does some great work - and they can make tarot- and bridge-sized decks.

Not only that, but they're sponsoring a playing card deck design contest right here on this forum.  Winner gets their deck produced and three dozen decks.

Click here to see the contest rules.

Cheers...and I hope to see you enter!

Thank you Don :)

I read through the competition rules - great contest :) However, as my playing cards are printed and published already, I don't think I would be eligible to enter...
Thanks for suggesting it though, I'll be sure to watch and vote :)

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There you go!  :) While I like your Tarot deck, I think your playing cards look even more polished. One small thing I would have wanted (though the deck can stand as it is), would be some more obvious gradients in your joker card. But that's just me and my OCD when it comes to consistency. But like I said, the deck can still stand as it it, and it's such a minor point really.

Thank you for your positive comments and good feedback - I'm glad you like them :)

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Design & Development / Re: Sharing Some Stuff
« on: June 25, 2015, 01:12:19 PM »
I will look out for your Queens :)

I think your 'superficially reversible' solution could work, either way I'm sure you will make Master Graven shine :) It's amazing how many decisions you end up having to make along the way (of any artwork really, but absolutely when it comes to cards) - it's part of the enjoyment. As you say - there are things that matter in tarot that don't in playing cards and vice versa... enough to keep you up at night (or was it knight.. or was it Jack?) :)

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Hello :)

I've only just joined and am still finding/browsing/discovering my way through this exciting place :)

Although these two decks are published and available (i.e. not in design & development stage) I thought I could start this thread by talking a little about the background for the artwork and process... and if it's okay I'll post a few images of my playing cards in the plethora thread as well.

Nine Lives Tarot
The artworks for my tarot deck are completed in pen & ink and hand-painted digitally - the 78 cards took just over 3 years to finish, including revising, extra detail and final touch ups.
For me, as an artist - the Tarot is a vast source of visual inspiration. A system where each card tells a story and conveys a meaning - yet, within the framework there are endless ways to interpret those stories.


The Tower, Chariot & Moon from Nine Lives Tarot

Nine Lives - neither deck is a cat deck per se :D - though the name is obviously 'cat' inspired (and I do love cats). I wanted to link the idea of life being cyclic (phases) rather than a straight line from birth to death. Cats are said to have nine lives, and in life we go through phases which sort of can be seen as lives within lives if that makes sense? The cats in my tarot deck are there as symbolic guides (there are nine in total), other guides include ravens, snakes and falcons ...

In 2013 KS wasn't available to Australian artists (a lot has changed in a short time), so before the artwork was completed I set about researching printing options and self-publishing. I had samples sent from MPC and PrinterStudio and looked into The Game Crafter (the cost of postage outside US was my main hurdle there ;)). I also looked at ArtsCow, Superior POD and a few more I can't remember. I sent emails to printers asking every silly question I could think of (about colour profiles, file types, manufacturing warranty, copyright...). Despite having to learn on my feet while discovering the joys of small print-runs, self-publishing has been immensely rewarding in that I get to 'meet' my customers.

I'm not sure at this stage what I will do for my next deck - especially considering that I am not one to complete a deck in a few weeks (more like a year or two), KS may not even be around (though I hope it will be) :)

Nine Lives Playing Cards

I grew up around playing cards - never been a serious player (unless you count matchsticks and loose change), though the lure and thrill of cards has been part of my life for as long as I can remember :)

After finishing Nine Lives Tarot, I was inspired to delve a little further and stay a while longer with the colourful characters of the courts...Playing cards felt just right, and so the Kings, Queens and Knights from my tarot deck came onboard to be redrawn and redressed to match their corresponding playing card suit.



I wanted this to be both playable and readable, in allowing the courts to retain some of their tarot symbolism and colours:

  • Hearts (cups) * Colour = Red * Element = Water
  • Clubs (rods / wands) * Colour = Orange/Yellow * Element = Fire
  • Diamonds (pentacles) * Colour = Green * Element = Earth
  • Spades (swords) * Colour = Indigo * Element = Air

The Aces combine the symbols of both card systems, while the pips follow a more traditional style with the suit symbols I designed for this deck.

Instead of Jacks there are Knights (Kn). The main reason for this is that they came across from my tarot deck as knights, and would have considered it a demotion to be renamed. Many cards I played with as a kid were Scandinavian, and they too use (Kn) for Jack, or 'Knekt'... After discovering that Knights were in fact present in early decks, but replaced by Jacks to avoid cheating (scratching away the 'n' to aquire oneself a brand new King), I had no choice but to let the knights stay...

The Joker is the signature card, referencing both artist and namesake cat ... :)

Coming from the tall and narrow (larger) tarot card size, these playing cards are bridge size to suit the artwork proportions... it's also (because of where I grew up) the size I'm most familiar with :)



Card examples from Nine Lives Playing Cards

Thank you for reading  :)

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Annette :)

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Design & Development / Re: Sharing Some Stuff
« on: June 24, 2015, 11:57:33 PM »
Hello :)

Great so see your designs here  :D and nice to see the extension of your Tarocchi di Marcelo Inciso deck - Master Graven, cool name :)
To me, the King of Spades without the border line works the best... as the eye is drawn to the figure. I like the artwork, so my comments are just ideas on making the art 'pop' :)
Maybe tone down the 'rusticness' in the background to add more contrast between figure and background...? The design reminds me of old copper graphic prints (etchings) - you could see it as a balance between cleaning up the 'plate' and having enough ink in the etched lines to achieve the desired effect :)

I also like the earlier suggestions to make the background 2-way and move the indices a bit closer to the edge, as it would add to the 'playability' of the deck ;)

The King in your Planaren Karten deck looks as though he is sitting on a chair (sideways effect) - looking forward to seeing the other courts and where you end up taking this deck :)

Thanks for sharing - and *wave* :)

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Artist from Australia saying Hello
« on: June 23, 2015, 08:59:33 AM »
Thanks HankMan & wave to Melbourne - I look forward to saying hi again :)

Thanks Don for your supportive welcome - My current decks are self published, though I'm curious about KS and may try them for a future deck  :)
Hoping to post some images soon :)

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Artist from Australia saying Hello
« on: June 22, 2015, 12:39:42 PM »
Thank you for bringing me along  ;)

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Introduce Yourself / Artist from Australia saying Hello
« on: June 22, 2015, 11:43:00 AM »
I'm new here - thanks to blue_toy who pointed me to this corner of the web :)

I'm an artist passionate about cards with two self-published decks and inspiration for future projects - my tricks are restricted to pen and paint :) I also enjoy learning about the history of cards - both tarot and playing cards... I grew up admiring beautiful images on cards, which instilled a love of the mystique, secrets and sense of 'anything can happen' when a pack of cards are brought out to play or read. Here I hope to meet fellow deck artists, wanderers, card lovers and more :)

I'll add some of my cards, but wanted to say hello first :)

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